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One major difference between Iraq and Libya was that the "Decider put on a case for the Iraq War and got the approval of Congress as required under the US Constitution.

I can't support Democracy in the Middle East when it tends to lead to Muslim Theocracy or a US propped puppet Government. Both wars are contrary to the interests of the USA but at least the "Decider" claimed there were WMDs and actually followed the law.

Obama's Libyan war is not currently legal under the Constitution. Congress will likely let Obama get away with it. Its up to the US voter to remove Obama in 2012, this is a very expensive conflict, a lot of people in this country are unemployed.

The following quote is from a Harvard educated Attorney named Barack Obama before he was the President:

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

I think he was the President of the Harvard Law Review when he was a student there ...

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The only consideration among leftists is, who is cic.

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The only consideration among leftists is, who is cic.

Does the 'cic' stand for commander-in-chief or is it a typo of 'chic'?

Leftists, unable to think for themselves as they are, are notorious for being followers of fashion aren't they? And in certain quarters, Obama is just sooooooo chic!

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I can't support Democracy in the Middle East when it tends to lead to Muslim Theocracy or a US propped puppet Government.

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The only consideration among leftists is, who is cic.

Does the 'cic' stand for commander-in-chief or is it a typo of 'chic'?

Leftists, unable to think for themselves as they are, are notorious for being followers of fashion aren't they? And in certain quarters, Obama is just sooooooo chic!

Imagine somebody who is so dumb he can't even type CinC. Amazing. Another reason why he's on block.

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Frick is totally unaware that by simply using of Google one can refrain from revealing their ignorance on any given subject to the entire world...

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The Future of the US Commitment in Libya & Al Qaeda and the Libyan Rebels: Today's Q's for O's WH



TAPPER: So going forward, once the U.S. has fully pulled back to this support role and the civilian protection and no-fly, how many ships, planes and service members will we have -- approximately will we have committed to this effort?

DEPUTY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER DENIS McDONOUGH:  I didn't understand the full -- I think like the fourth or fifth word you said when we pull back to this what? TAPPER: “Support.”

McDONOUGH:  Oh, okay.

TAPPER: That's the word you guys have been using, right?

McDONOUGH:  I just didn't understand --

TAPPER: So when you guys pull back to the support effort, how many ships, planes and servicemembers will you have committed to this?

McDONOUGH:  I don't have a specific number for you, Jake, but --

TAPPER: Do you have a rough number, an idea?



McDONOUGH:  I’m sure the Joint Staff does, but I don't have that for you right now. **

TAPPER: There was a report out of West Point in 2007 about the people going through Syria to get into Iraq to fight U.S. troops, and that report had about a fifth of those going in to fight U.S. troops from Libya.  There was also a Libyan opposition group that was affiliated with al Qaeda.  And my question is, how concerned is the administration about the possible presence within this broad group of Libyan opposition figures that there are those who fought jihad against the United States in Iraq, or are affiliated with al Qaeda or affiliated groups?

WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY JAY CARNEY:  Well, Jake, what I'll say is that we have obviously spent a lot of time looking at the opposition in Libya and speaking with opposition leaders.  Denis spoke a little bit about that just moments ago.  I don't have anything for you on a specific concern.  But what we have seen in Libya is something that's national and organic, where, as we’ve seen in other countries, the people of Libya have expressed their desire for greater participation, greater voice in their government, more representation. But beyond that, I don't have anything specific on elements of the opposition that would be of concern.

TAPPER: How confident is the President that whatever comes next after regime change happens, assuming it does, which is the stated policy of this White House, that it will be better for the United States and in our interests -- that government?

CARNEY:  Well, I'll share Denis’ opinion that I don't want to get ahead of the Secretary of State, who, as I think you noted, will be addressing this issue to some degree in London tomorrow. But I will say that in general, this is obviously a situation in the region where there is a lot of unpredictability.

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I can't support Democracy in the Middle East when it tends to lead to Muslim Theocracy or a US propped puppet Government.

isoLadyOwner, you are continuously advancing these claims about theocracies-to-be in the Middle East.

You share, with the esteemed Col Ghadaffi, the distinction of being the only people I know of who are convinced the current revolution in Libya will end up in another Islamist theocracy.*

I'm sure some very compelling evidence helped persuade you of this sinister Islamist plot. Trouble is, no one else has seen or is aware of the evidence that you find so compelling.

So please, share the evidence with us. Or, perhaps, alternatively admit you are making it up.



* Both the below claims were made by isoLadyOwner on another Libyan-related thread:
"The Libyan Rebels are an armed force very likely to seek a Muslim Theocracy. "
"The Libyan Rebels will probably be the next imminent threat to US interests if they take power in Libya. "
post # 131 @ http://www.collarchat.com/m_3612866/mpage_7/tm.htm

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One major difference between Iraq and Libya was that the "Decider put on a case for the Iraq War and got the approval of Congress as required under the US Constitution.

I can't support Democracy in the Middle East when it tends to lead to Muslim Theocracy or a US propped puppet Government. Both wars are contrary to the interests of the USA but at least the "Decider" claimed there were WMDs and actually followed the law.

Obama's Libyan war is not currently legal under the Constitution. Congress will likely let Obama get away with it. Its up to the US voter to remove Obama in 2012, this is a very expensive conflict, a lot of people in this country are unemployed.

The following quote is from a Harvard educated Attorney named Barack Obama before he was the President:

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

I think he was the President of the Harvard Law Review when he was a student there ...

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Again, Google can be your friend, tweaka. When asked about al-Qaeda in Libya and who the Libyan rebels are, there arent any substantive answers coming from the White House, just a lot of double talk.


In my opinion it would be supremely foolish to assume there isnt any al-Qaeda in Libya, based on the various reports and based on what we have seen of al-Qaeda in in Iraq.

al-Qaeda isnt the obnly problem in the area, either. Another major concern is Iran working to destabilize things and spread their version of revolution...

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except to you and to moon, mike, mnot, and a few others who spend all their time infatuated with me).

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Dear tweeka, please read more carefully and try to think things through some prior to posting.

The point isnt so much, what does Sanity know about Libya. After all, how important is it that I understand what is going on there (except to you and to moon, mike, mnot, and a few others who spend all their time infatuated with me).

The point I raised is, what does the White House know. Theyre not forthcoming with any answers, just a lot of double talk.

Questions raised are, who is going to take responsibility for the power vacuum we are creating there? If youre trying to deny that there are nefarious forces at work in the region then you are seriously out of touch with reality.

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Dear tweeka, please read more carefully and try to think things through some prior to posting.

The point isnt so much, what does Sanity know about Libya. After all, how important is it that I understand what is going on there (except to you and to moon, mike, mnot, and a few others who spend all their time infatuated with me).

The point I raised is, what does the White House know. Theyre not forthcoming with any answers, just a lot of double talk.

Questions raised are, who is going to take responsibility for the power vacuum we are creating there? If youre trying to deny that there are nefarious forces at work in the region then you are seriously out of touch with reality.

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Its flattering that you follow my posts so closely mike, but can you answer the question?

"Who is going to take responsibility for the power vacuum we are creating there?"