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I was giving an example of what my Master considers worthy or unworthy submissive behavior. Mouthiness is one of them. If you want to interpret that as a personal attack directed at you, that is your right.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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I was giving an example of what my Master considers worthy or unworthy submissive behavior. Mouthiness is one of them. If you want to interpret that as a personal attack directed at you, that is your right.

Hmmmm, I did not take one thing you said "personally". I don't think you have said anything "personal" to me. I was just giving an example of a rule that my last dominant had for me in posting on the forums because he thought it would reflect poorly on him if I were to go around telling other people's property how they were inadequate submissives. There are only two people who should be judging coookie's submission, and that is cookie and her master. What your master's opinion on the matter is moot. The only reason to say such things is to chastise someone else's submissive as if you were her dom...

If that is what you wanna do, knock yourself out, but do it one too many times and i predict you will be persona non grata around here before you know it....

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

i dont understand

Me either, I think you two need to have a serious talk.

That's the problem with "serious" talks. They are too serious. :)

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ORIGINAL: subbykat

Who said anything about making YOU his submissive ROFL!? A person would actually have to EARN that privilege...lol.

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Some folks actually find *mouthy to be quite entertaining and would be well-pleased by such a slave.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


If this were not the case I would despair of ever finding another happy relationship...lol

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Who said anything about making YOU his submissive ROFL!? A person would actually have to EARN that privilege...lol.

Then why hold anyone else to the standards of your Master and suggest that being mouthy means she is not a good submissive? Some folks actually find *mouthy to be quite entertaining and would be well-pleased by such a slave. To each their own, right?

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Which is why, it's important to know what your Master's criteria is for submission, before agreeing to hop on board.

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Wwe have been in a relationship for almost 3 years, and have spent most of that time living together. i have issues that i need to work on and he thought that if we started a M/s relationship that it would make these issues resolved faster.

Oh did he? Very interesting. So M/s is a way to get through issues and that is a basis for a good relationship? Honey, go see a professional for your issues and leave the doctoring to them. M/s or not, if in three years he hasn't been able to fix you yet, why do you think M/s will do the trick?

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ORIGINAL: coookie

If that is the case subby kat, you may wish to articulate your ideas further because it just seemed as though you were just calling me mouthy and telling me that i am not worthy of being a "good submissive".

At any rate, i am happy that you understand.

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I did not say you need permission. I said you should. Because all we have to understand your thoughts are how you express them in print, i think that you should be clear what you mean when you insult people (which is a mouthy kind of thing to do isn't it pot?)

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ORIGINAL: newsubnokc

Wwe have been in a relationship for almost 3 years, and have spent most of that time living together. i have issues that i need to work on and he thought that if we started a M/s relationship that it would make these issues resolved faster.

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Thanks. I'll pass on making friends with people who judge me or preach at me. For the record, I was referring to a "good submissive" according to my Master's rules.

When I was involved with my last dom he had one rule he was stringent about when I posted here. I was never to tell someone they were a bad or a good dominant or submissive. I could be mouthy, I could be argumentative (he actually loved it when I argued about politics), but I could not tell someone they weren't real, true, bad or whatever other insult to their role in the lifestyle I could think up... I still find value in following that rule even though he and I are no longer together. Now, I do not expect others to follow his rules, as they were his. And the last I looked, no one but you on this forum is submitting to your master, so why should we care what the fuck he thinks?

As far as lecturing, it seems you are doing to others what you claim to dislike, lecturing coookie on her "mouthiness"...

I was giving an example of what my Master considers worthy or unworthy submissive behavior, which was to address the topic of the thread. Mouthiness is one of them. If you want to interpret that as a personal attack directed at you, that is your right.
Besides, I don't think it's fair to lecture me when cookie has been undermining what I wrote, calling it "poppycock". That's mouthy. I didn't give her any shit to start with, but she has been insulting me in my other thread too.

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what subs out here don't have self esteem issues?....Please point them out.

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Hers cause her to feel suicidal...(other thread) and not every sub has self-esteem issues.