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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 3/26/2011 6:44:14 AM   
Arturas


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I had to check your profile to see if your were from the states, thought maybe "been into BDSM for about 5 years now" meant something different in your country.

The English word "into" in this context is defined according to Websters as "involved or interested" and both of these terms are relative rather than objective experience measurements. One must then read about his experience to determine what his being "into" means.

Let me explain a bit better using one of my interests in the same context. (Me) "I have been into building boats for five years now". That statement is true but I really have little experience as I only could work on it every other month on one or two Saturdays when the weather is nice and spent much of that time thinking and dreaming about it, looking over magazines and reading before actually starting on my own.

So, the OP being "into" something for five years really means nothing until you read the rest of his posting and find nothing to indicate any active participation for much of that time.

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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 3/26/2011 3:05:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas

quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

I had to check your profile to see if your were from the states, thought maybe "been into BDSM for about 5 years now" meant something different in your country.

The English word "into" in this context is defined according to Websters as "involved or interested" and both of these terms are relative rather than objective experience measurements. One must then read about his experience to determine what his being "into" means.

Let me explain a bit better using one of my interests in the same context. (Me) "I have been into building boats for five years now". That statement is true but I really have little experience as I only could work on it every other month on one or two Saturdays when the weather is nice and spent much of that time thinking and dreaming about it, looking over magazines and reading before actually starting on my own.

So, the OP being "into" something for five years really means nothing until you read the rest of his posting and find nothing to indicate any active participation for much of that time.



I understand what your saying but when ppl ask me how long I have been sailing I tell em round 30 years. I dont explain that typically I sail a couple days a week and only in the summer. The point being that you can't do everything 24/7

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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 3/28/2011 6:35:45 AM   
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I've tried to explain to her how important I think that the communication between us is.


This caught my attention as something to consider.

It implies the expectation that by the condition of "her understanding you" being true, her behavior will change, probably through an adjustment she makes upon thinking about it as you would think, and that for you would cause that change in your own behavior. Huh? In other words, you told her what YOU would need to hear that YOU would respond to by changing how YOU act. Notice in all this that YOU is not HER.

You can correct your expectation of her by replacing "what would work if I heard it" to "what would work if she heard it". I suspect that for her, hearing explanations doesn't even work. Not everyone processes corrections the same way. It's perhaps usual to try on someone else what would work on yourself. More effective is to learn about others what happens to work on them, then do that. It is a lot easier to use how someone already responds than to first recondition them to respond as you would so that you can then use on them, what would work on you. Right? Right.

I explained this to you exactly how it would makes sense if explained that way to me, in part to make a point.

You're lost because the map you are using shows YOUR behavioral layout. You need a map of hers. Learn how to motivate her. Study her responses, know her needs, and have a clear idea of the starting place and the desired destination so you can plan a route between those two points. If you're going to impose your will on her behavior, you just gots to master how she ticks. She is probably looking to you for that, to spare her the drudgery of managing herself in that way. Guidance is an art. Because it is, you can justify wearing a beret while you do it. Dress the part. Buy yourself a beret and smoke thin cigarettes, which you should let dangle from the corner of your mouth like any self-respecting artist will.

You can be wordy and intellectual about it, if that suits you, or you can ASSERT your AUTHORITY spontaneously by using hand signals and a rolled up magazine or empty paper towel core. I suspect you of living too much in your head and not enough in the moment itself. If what you are thinking doesn't work for a given situation, then stop thinking until you notice what is actually happening.

Communication comes in different types. Talking at her ears is only one way to communicate. It is a poor way to communicate with tired people. Tired people suck at listening, and are even worse at understanding what you say when the message is designed to work on you and not on them.

She comes home tired. You know this, yet you expect of her to act like someone who is not coming home tired. Why?




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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 3/28/2011 1:35:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LEADERSHIP527
Well, I don't have a clue why she is so "tired", but what I do know is that if she doesn't have the energy to have a relationship then she can't have a relationship.


I was browsing the front page and this title happened to catch my eye.  As I read through the first post, and then the responses I agreed with the possibilities presented, as perhaps several others have, in quite a few of the posts.  BeachMistress brought up some strong points and provided excellent advice for resolving the issues.  Then I read down and saw the statement by leadership527, and it rang loud and true to what I would have said.  I don't absolutely think the relationship is doomed, but the nre honeymoon is most definitely over. 


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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 5/18/2011 10:00:23 AM   
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Julia, it wasn't that it wasn't a good contribution.  I was just hoping this would have been one of those occasions where there was an actual update by the OP.  I'm one of those folks who appreciate when that happens and kind of hopes for a happy ending.

Michael, I realize you've got a real hard on against the lifestyle community as a whole and this comment is going to do nothing but provide you with the opportunity to pull up bad experiences that you've been exposed to.  Feel free to vent while I'm busy moving furniture today.  I won't have the time to address it. 

Yes, each one teach one.  However, it isn't possible to teach *every* one.  Not every problem can be settled through a message board.  Frankly, you're the last person who has any right to come on here and complain that different personalities express themselves in different ways.  There were various forms of advice here and not everybody is going to do that with a pat on the head.

This bit about what you've got against members of the lifestyle community is starting to get old and almost bordering on hypocritical.  That massive chip on your shoulder sure isn't there when you're here promoting your own events.  Then, it's all about how great the folks are that have hosted you and what a good time you had with the opportunity to do a presentation.  It sure isn't about the venom that you're spitting any other time.  It's only positive when it suits you and it's long past time that you took a look at that.


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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 5/19/2011 4:06:39 PM   
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Wow...  this IS a tough audience.  One would think the hard-core folks in here who 'own' slaves would understand that with ownership comes responsibility.  Which means addressing the OP does need to start with a medical check up.  It really is that simple. 

If there's no medical reason for the exhaustion, my suggestion would be to try a little adjustment to your schedule.  Go to bed early, get up early, and try playing in the morning when you're both fully rested, instead of after work. 

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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 5/19/2011 4:59:55 PM   
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Jeez Louise, man, you guys are in your twenties.  I could work 10 hours, go out and party all night, come home, shower, then go to work the next day when I was 27.  Why is your sub so tired?  Maybe she needs a check-up, get tested for anemia. 


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RE: Dominant feeling lost - 5/20/2011 12:09:30 AM   
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I could work 10 hours, go out and party all night, come home, shower, then go to work the next day when I was 27.
Those were the days.....actually i go for days without sleep now. Its a real bitch!

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