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webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 1:25:04 AM

boy43

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(First of all, sorry for my english...)

Recently i have meet a Domme that wanted to train me on line, by means of a web cam and micro. i havent any issue with that, feeling that it isnt for me, people have the right of choosing the way they live the lifestyle, mainly if it is consensual. For a some people living it real is almost impossible. What i am worried about is that perhaps some of this Dom/Dommes are people that perhaps are recording the session to put on web pages (i suposse that it can be made)... S/someone has had any experience of it or can give some advice about it? Thank you very much.
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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 4:05:21 AM

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Actually , you are correct.You can be recorded and added to a library of other slaves/subs that this dom has recorded before you. In fact you , will read on some profiles here , how someone gave out pictures once they got into knowing each other , only to fine that they had posted them somewhere else. Yahoo and other albums are full of pictures with others involved .And since its the internet, you really don't know how far your likness or encounters will be seen by people all over the world.. And , the ability to get them removed is almost impossiable, so if your out there understand , you will always be out there

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 5:36:43 AM

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I have to agree that it's possible, illegal as all hell, but still possible. Another point would be that you really have no idea who is watching. There could be 20 people in the room watching what you are doing.

They say paranoia will destroy ya.... but darlin', just cuz your paranoid don't mean they're not out to get you. I don't ask for those kind of pics and I don't send those kind of pics. But that's just my opinion.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 6:00:24 AM

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I agree with the advice here, I get so many subs petition with " i will webcam for you"--egads--why would you put your naked performing self out there for who knows who or what---I will also add that webcam viewing is a good way to identify who a person is or things about them for theft or some illegal use later---be afraid, be very afraid.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 6:31:00 AM

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In all honesty, i had never really given much thought others being able to record until now. I knew that they could take stills and such.

I'll definately give it thought the next time i'm asked thou and as far as not knowing who is watching, that is so true. Got caught in a situation like that once with someone i had known for over a year, showing him my piercings that i had just had done....20 others saw them too ..

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 6:47:35 AM

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As in anything...it's all about evaluating...and educating one self on the risks and or ramifications.....and then consenting...to proceed...or not...

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 6:52:24 AM

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Think of it another way,,,if your not willing to show your face here,, then why would you cam with who knows whos watching. Not to mention over time you will share more and more inf o , until possiable people local might find out who you are make your life a living hell if they can. It's not that unusall that you might start to get calls or emails from people you don't know who are sharing your images with others...They will trade your web cams for another..

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 7:46:42 AM

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Just keep in mind, it could very well be a dorm room full of drunken frat boys that you end up camming for. And they'll be more than happy to "encourage" your submission, and "train" you. All for the benefit of them having someone to laugh at during their next party.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 7:59:19 AM

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that is a fact that i have thought of several times before and although i do not like to lie .. having a cam and even mic is something that i do lie about quite often.
Particularly after the one incident, but he still laughs about that.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/7/2006 12:11:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: boy43
For a some people living it real is almost impossible. What i am worried about is that perhaps some of this Dom/Dommes are people that perhaps are recording the session to put on web pages (i suposse that it can be made)... S/someone has had any experience of it or can give some advice about it? Thank you very much.
:)

I think your concerns are valid, and you ought to heed them, because if you don't, you may regret it. As ShiftedJewel said, I don't ask people for those kinds of pictures, nor do I give them those kinds of pictures.

From where I can see/reading your profile, I'm not sure what kind of training it is you seek, and why you're doing it online. If you are a slave, your training ought to be in obedience and using good judgement, not performing on cam for what is probably another man (unless that is what you seek). If I've misread your profile and indeed there are many things there you can do to prove you are a slave in front of a webcam, than you can correct me. M

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/10/2006 6:34:18 PM

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I just read this topic and can say thankYou to A/all for the advice and warnings I had a Mistress that was training me online and I did do cam with Her was always oneway I honestly didn't know about the taping or anything like that could happen, Does make me leary when a Domme askes me to go to cam now tY again for the info. girl will be doing a lot of thinking great topic.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/14/2006 11:51:06 AM

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I will always put on a show for a mistress on cam if she wants.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/14/2006 7:18:22 PM

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bobbeme, ... is it really a Mistress on the other side. The reality is a lot of cam play can have anyone out here watching..And , sad to say as you get more comfortable and open about who you really are... they may beable to use it againest you in a form of black mail. It may sound almost impossiable it would happen, but it can be done easily. And not for money either ...but for other things somebody might want from you..

Also remember to ,...to some its a fantasy to be on camera .To entertain others.To beable to humilate several slaves at the same time in differnt cities. It's also wy to easy to exploit unknowing people...

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/15/2006 8:09:18 AM

DiannaVesta

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I think web cams are cool but agree that you need to really check out and be careful who you're dealing with. This is hard to do so its always a risk, I think. Any time you put your face or personal info on the web its a risk.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/15/2006 10:56:08 AM

DigitBox

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I wonder if anyone uses a photo to make money could one sue for illegal use of your intelectual property, since it's your image?

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/15/2006 11:11:28 AM

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Any use of an image OF ANY KIND.....unless noted as freeware/shareware... is illegal and those who do so may be prosecuted. Unless the image is accompanied by a signed letter of permission for use.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/15/2006 11:15:11 AM

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That's simply untrue. Don't say things if you don't know what you're talking about.

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Any use of an image OF ANY KIND.....unless noted as freeware/shareware... is illegal and those who do so may be prosecuted.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/15/2006 3:26:21 PM

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I wonder if anyone uses a photo to make money could one sue for illegal use of your intelectual property, since it's your image?

Intellectual property as I understand it would be coming up with a name, design and/or set up for a business, website or patant that someone else turns around and uses as their own without credit or compensation.

Image rights as far as public figures have pretty much been held as fair game as long as other laws aren't being violated...trespass, stalking, blackmail.
Blackmail might apply here. Using someone's image to harm them.

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/15/2006 5:40:42 PM

openmindedslave

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The reality is images are sharred all the time.Your image or experience may not surface again for 10 years or more..Look at the girls gone wild . Even after signing a release , they sometimes try to sue because their lives go in a direction where the embarrassment of a video done could have emotional stress brought apon them. I don't know if it relates, but what about the celebrity videos and how they get onto the internet. And the facts are, if somebody did show a video to others or a cam session, and even if you could track down the real person who has it ,...are you really ever sure thereare no other copies out there. Do you ever really know if your not going to be black mailed with it ..or shown to others at a party. I mean if your open here and have nothing to hide, then be on cam and play.. But if you can't be that way , then don't do it...even it does seem you to draw you to it

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RE: webcam playing.. a risk to be evaluated? - 5/15/2006 6:22:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: theRose4U

quote:

ORIGINAL: DigitBox
I wonder if anyone uses a photo to make money could one sue for illegal use of your intelectual property, since it's your image?

Intellectual property as I understand it would be coming up with a name, design and/or set up for a business, website or patant that someone else turns around and uses as their own without credit or compensation.

Image rights as far as public figures have pretty much been held as fair game as long as other laws aren't being violated...trespass, stalking, blackmail.
Blackmail might apply here. Using someone's image to harm them.

Invasion of privacy is where your image is protected. As such, it's a pretty weak reed. Some states have relatively strong laws, but others pretty much ignore the subject.

HOWEVER, it's not so much the image as who took it since unless it was a "work for hire" the photographer owns the copyright. Copyright law is a pretty settled body. If someone used my image or that of Libby of which I was the copyright holder, I'd go after them on that grounds. The rewards could be significant. I've had a few run-in with people who used parts of Loving Dominant on their websites, so far no one has gone all the way to court but even with my lawyer getting his pound of flesh the settlements have been a nice addition to my retirement.

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