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LadyPact -> RE: bi play (3/28/2011 1:43:14 PM)

I'd have gone for that as a partial explanation if the topic had mentioned anything about forced.  I more or less see the forced issue as a variation of role play because there really is underlying consent going on there.  If anything, it can also have that hint of "I own you, so you'll do it to please Me" factor.  If that's the case, why would somebody ask if they really enjoyed it?  From whatever angle we're working here (I want a hot little show, enforce power, etc) I still want it done because I'm getting something from it.  Otherwise, I'd just do My nails.



LadyNTrainer -> RE: bi play (3/28/2011 2:11:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
There's no such thing as a 'bi- male', mwd. All males identifying as bisexual are actually homosexual males who are in denial. This is especially true of those males who want to be "forced' to take part in bi-sex by a mistress.


The fuck is this shit?  My primary partner is a bisexual genderqueer who feels equal attraction to males and females and transfolks of any flavor.  His attraction to the person depends on the person, not their genitals.  He likes all configurations and would score as dead middle on the Kinsey scale.  I respect and appreciate his bisexuality.  Don't be a dick and tell me that my primary partner doesn't exist or that he doesn't know how he actually feels; it's needlessly insulting. 

And nobody needs to "force" him to be bisexual.  He's mature enough to own his sexuality, for which I admire him greatly. 



PeonForHer -> RE: bi play (3/28/2011 2:32:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer
The fuck is this shit?   


I don't know, Lady N. Someone called 'PeonForHer' wrote it earlier. Ignore him - he's talking bollocks, as I later pointed out to him.



PeonForHer -> RE: bi play (3/28/2011 2:42:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Very few men can admit to themselves that they actually want to suck a cock or be assfucked...so the create this "forced bi" scenario in order to fulfill their fantasies and maintain their status as "real" men at the same time.


What I really don't get, underneath all of this, is why people will let their sense of identity, their egos, override their desires to such a huge, huge extent. Is there an age that one reaches at which one starts to think 'Hang on, I'm going to be six feet under one day. Am I wasting my time with the wrong frigging priorities?'



CreepyStalker -> RE: bi play (3/28/2011 7:31:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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One last thing.  Nobody ever asks this darn question of male Dominants! 
Because the vast majority of bi or bi-curious women don't need to be "forced" into it. That kink is almost exclusively male, and is, in my opinion, based on the basic homophobia in most men.Very few men can admit to themselves that they actually want to suck a cock or be assfucked...so the create this "forced bi" scenario in order to fulfill their fantasies and maintain their status as "real" men at the same time.

I may be wrong, but that's the way I've always seen it.



Probably in some cases; people are pillocks like that. I reckon there is more to it though.

Can't speak for mens or people who are 'forced' (I'm not a person who could ever really feel forced into anything, so I can't directly empathise),  but the appeal here extends beyond providing an excuse to fuck a guy. There's a sexual element to it that comes purely from the dom's involvement in the situation.

Supposing a person genuinely has no attraction to males at all, the act of fucking a bloke is effectively a sexually neutral behaviour (albeit a rather icky one). Taboos and homophobic bullshit aside, it has no intrinsic erotic appeal. Whereas if there's a dom orchestrating and enjoying making this happen, it kinda gets imbued with erotic appeal via that dom's involvement (with the idea of it being 'forced' presumably adding to that appeal in a consensual non-consent rapey kinda way). Thus an otherwise 'meh' experience becomes a kinky fun experience because of that third person's erotic influence.

(This is officially the first post I have made with any seriousness or thought in it. Woo.)



flcouple2009 -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 10:58:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: mwdsub4u

i as a slave enjoy bi play only when a Mistress commands it, yet do You as a Mistress enjoy it?


There's no such thing as a 'bi- male', mwd. All males identifying as bisexual are actually homosexual males who are in denial. This is especially true of those males who want to be "forced' to take part in bi-sex by a mistress.

I hope that helps.


Am I the only one who took this as Peon making a joke toward the OP who I actually believe is trolling for jerk off material?



PeonForHer -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:25:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009
Am I the only one who took this as Peon making a joke toward the OP who I actually believe is trolling for jerk off material?


I'm not sure why exactly I did that post, flc, though that was certainly part of the reason. Sometimes, I just feel like returning one cretinous outlook with another one. I did think regulars would know me better than to believe I was giving my real view, but apparently I'm not as famous as I thought. :-(

I was also hoping, in some vague way, to kick off another thread about male cocksucking that'd be of more interest to, er, a few female aficionados of that subject, here. In the past the best way to do that has proven to have been for Elan and myself to do one of our occasional 'male cocksucking' porn pieces, with various femdoms giving their 'directions'. But I don't think either of us was in the mood for that this time round.



flcouple2009 -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:31:49 AM)

I don't know. 

I never for a moment took that as serious.  My first thought was an intentional BS answer to a BS question.

I was shocked to see everyone else giving you the run down over it.



PeonForHer -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:39:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009
I was shocked to see everyone else giving you the run down over it.


I don't blame them, flc. Stupid opinions have got to be challenged - after all, non-regulars read these threads as well.



BonesFromAsh -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:49:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
....apparently I'm not as famous as I thought. :-(


Well, you offered a lovely way to get yourself (back) into the spotlight.....


quote:


In the past the best way to do that has proven to have been for Elan and myself to do one of our occasional 'male cocksucking' porn


I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting.............[;)]



PeonForHer -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:52:23 AM)


Aww, thank you, Bones!



LadyPact -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:55:07 AM)

CreepyStalker, for your first serious post, it was a nice job. 

FLC, peon has pulled the same stunt before.  If I remember right, somebody came to one of our better heterosexual males sucking cock threads with it when peon was just getting his feet wet here.  I saw it more as a 'head them off at the pass' maneuver when he does it now. 



BonesFromAsh -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:55:21 AM)

[:)]

Just doing my part to get the wanking started for the OP....and others. [:D]

And.....on a more serious note, yes OP, I'm sure there are women who enjoy it even if their partner is doing it to please them and not himself.



poise -> RE: bi play (3/29/2011 11:58:07 AM)

Wooohoooo! I've been waiting for just the right moment to wank!
On your mark.......get set............ [:-]


Hey! Where did everyone go! [:(]



Sunny27 -> RE: bi play (3/31/2011 2:38:45 AM)

When I was younger I had fantasies of being with a woman rather than a guy.
Then when I reached 21 I felt I could only be with a guy because I knew I would want four kids!!
Myself and my Master do want to play with a girl even so before we're married!
An previous boyfriend of mine did think he was gay for a while as he did stuff with his guy friend! Ever since they have become just friends again he has been so straight I couldn't believe he'd ever been with a guy! You learn something new all the time! Ha!



msub4u2 -> RE: bi play (4/10/2011 8:20:36 AM)

i was one of those stupid males that never thought Women would love watching a male having sex with another male as in a live sex show for Them.  my exDomme was the one that educated me on the subject. She asked me if i ever watched two women together and of course i said Yes.  She then said whats the difference? She said She really loves watching Her malesub sucking cock for Her. She told me that since i liked watching women do it then She thought i owed a payback too Women and said i needed too repay Them by having sex with another male in a live sex show.  i had no arguement, and could only agree with Her logic, and i did feel guilty about having watched women do it.



strangedesire -> RE: bi play (4/10/2011 9:47:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mwdsub4u

i as a slave enjoy bi play only when a Mistress commands it, yet do You as a Mistress enjoy it?


A pretty girl on one knee, a pretty boy on the other...I love it.

Or was that not what you meant when said "bi play"?



LadyPact -> RE: bi play (4/10/2011 10:20:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: msub4u2

i was one of those stupid males that never thought Women would love watching a male having sex with another male as in a live sex show for Them.  my exDomme was the one that educated me on the subject. She asked me if i ever watched two women together and of course i said Yes.  She then said whats the difference? She said She really loves watching Her malesub sucking cock for Her. She told me that since i liked watching women do it then She thought i owed a payback too Women and said i needed too repay Them by having sex with another male in a live sex show.  i had no arguement, and could only agree with Her logic, and i did feel guilty about having watched women do it.

The highlighted above is exactly what many of us have been attempting to make people on these boards understand for years.



porcelaine -> RE: bi play (4/10/2011 10:37:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: msub4u2

my exDomme was the one that educated me on the subject. She asked me if i ever watched two women together and of course i said Yes.  She then said whats the difference? She said She really loves watching Her malesub sucking cock for Her.


Greetings,

This was never appealing to me and i couldn't wrap my mind around it. i was chided by Someone that adored bisexual men to give it some thought but it wouldn't, even though Her stories we very le purr in many respects. However, that all changed when i became involved with someone that had earlier experiences that he expressed. And oddly enough i wasn't bothered, but rather aroused in all truth. It took a little soul searching for me to realize that i found bisexual men attractive overall. my penchant for metrosexual types exposes me to this far more than i was willing to admit at the time. But now, oh gosh. Just yes. For the right one. [;)]

Namaste,

~porcelaine



Lucylastic -> RE: bi play (4/10/2011 11:09:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: mwdsub4u

i as a slave enjoy bi play only when a Mistress commands it, yet do You as a Mistress enjoy it?


There's no such thing as a 'bi- male', mwd. All males identifying as bisexual are actually homosexual males who are in denial. This is especially true of those males who want to be "forced' to take part in bi-sex by a mistress.

I hope that helps.


Am I the only one who took this as Peon making a joke toward the OP who I actually believe is trolling for jerk off material?


I imediately took it as Peon being sarky
maybe because of various fantasies Ive had.
Hes english he does sarky well
winks @ Peon





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