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urantiam -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/28/2006 1:47:46 PM)

My Mistress is a very fast learner. She is now so dominant with me that I cannot even imagine that just a few weeks ago she was listed as a sub. I had a feeling that this woman had what it takes to rule over men. I am very happy I found this Princess.

Urantiam




SweetDommes -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/28/2006 9:41:59 PM)

[sm=biggrin.gif]

I'm now reminded of a boy we used to date.  He was the first submissive that we played with, and his submission almost oozed out of him (he wasn't a doormat, but anyone who wasn't in complete denial could tell).  He listed himself as a switch, because he could Top - he knew what submissives wanted, and he knew how to give it to them, so he thought that made him Dominant ... the problem is that by doing that, he was in reality, doing what they wanted, thus he was still being submissive (in our opinions).  He also flat out said that the only reason he started switching was because of a lack of Dommes where he was at when he started switching - and he'd rather be "Dom" than go without the lifestyle.  He never convinced us (or any number of others that we knew) that he was capable of being truly dominant, but he had a few submissives convinced because he was quite good at Topping during a scene ... however, that does NOT make him Dominant.  The submissives that he Topped only saw him for brief segments of time, when he put on a role ... when he was not in that role, he was (to most people) obviously submissive.  We spent a great deal of time with him over the 2-3 months that we dated, plus time before we started dating and after the relationship was ended ... and he was not Dominant. 

I'm just wondering how long her being "so dominant that [he] can't imagine that just a few weeks ago she was listed as a sub" will last once they are around each other, face to face, and more than just a little while at a time.




becca333 -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/29/2006 12:43:16 AM)

Frankly, I think the two of them are just perfect for each other.

But this thread really does demonstrate the dangers of celibacy.




urantiam -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/30/2006 10:01:37 AM)

4000 hits and only about 200 replies. If I count the repeats, not to many members have gave me their opinions. It would be nice to hear from the 3800 others who read this thread.

Urantiam




spectreandnectre -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/30/2006 12:35:14 PM)

that i would believe is because even the repeats have given up on you some i am sure just believe you are a waste of time




MisPandora -> RE: In Urantiams defense.......... (5/30/2006 3:25:58 PM)

Now that the REAL story comes out, it makes a bit more sense.  But, to put it bluntly: this sounds incredibly fucked up to me.

He's forcing you to take him on as a slave?  He's forcing you to be called Mistress?

Um, topping from the bottom a little bit pal?

Sorry that he's "emotionally sensitive".  Perhaps his ass could be a little more sensitive when I swiftly kick it.  That's what he needs -- a swift kick in the seat or a blow to the head to knock some sense into him.

This is not D/s.  This is manipulation.  And sadly, your reply shows you're bowing to "protect" him by taking on the blame for this.  The only thing wrong with this situation that I can see is that he's forcing you into a place that you're not suited to. 

I honestly don't subscribe to this love before meeting premise, although I guess it can happen.  In three days, I really highly doubt it.

I'm sorry that you've been placed into this situation by a "submissive male".  I only hope that you can somehow find what it is that you seek in your life.  It's apparent that he is not it.




MisPandora -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/30/2006 3:38:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Reflectivesoul

....I have some pretty strong attractions to some of the sub males runnin around.... am I a gay man trapped in a womans body or something?????? Any advise here would be warmly accepted.
 
*falls outta the chair laughin*


Yep, and I'm a gay leatherdaddy with a 12 inch cock you can suck.  Come on over. Remember, we don't have to meet to be IN LUVVVVVVV.




Vancouver_cinful -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/30/2006 4:14:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: urantiam

4000 hits and only about 200 replies. If I count the repeats, not to many members have gave me their opinions. It would be nice to hear from the 3800 others who read this thread.

Urantiam


I'm not sure you actually do...because my suspicion is that most of us who have read this and not already posted, decided not to post because we felt that everything has been said, and you have chosen to continue this, even with all the warnings already posted.

Will one more DANGER sign really make you decide to slow down, and just get to know this woman first, before committing yourself? I doubt it.

But, just in case...
DANGER




ChainedExistence -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/30/2006 5:19:15 PM)

ok..I'm one of those who read and didn't respond...mainly because I feel like what I have to say has been said..but here's a thought..
You say you only want to please her..and as a slave, I certainly understand that line of thinking...But I have to ask you..Dont you deserve more from the person who wishes to Domme you? The person who Dommes you should deserve all that devotion. You need to trust and lean on the person you serve. You need to know they are looking after your emotional and physical well being. She says herself she doesn't have a Domme bone in her body and can't punish her own puppy, yet you are willing to allow her to guide you? Would you trust your life savings to someone who admitted they can't balance a checkbook? Why then, would you trust your well being to someone who admits they can't handle it? I certainly understand your strong desire to serve. I understand you being willing to compromise and take anyone who gives in and says ok...she'll try it. You want so badly that you forget that this should fulfill you. This should make you better, not set you up for failure. Take the advice that has been given. Slow down...It took me 7 years to find someone worthy of my love and devotion. I made mistakes mostly because I compromised my postion. Of course, sometimes people just have to make their own mistakes. Maybe that's you. I certainly wish you the best, but I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.




Reflectivesoul -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/30/2006 9:49:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MisPandora

quote:

ORIGINAL: Reflectivesoul

....I have some pretty strong attractions to some of the sub males runnin around.... am I a gay man trapped in a womans body or something?????? Any advise here would be warmly accepted.
 
*falls outta the chair laughin*


Yep, and I'm a gay leatherdaddy with a 12 inch cock you can suck.  Come on over. Remember, we don't have to meet to be IN LUVVVVVVV.


Hell yeah Pandora I'm on Muh way Baby *wiggles muh eye brows at you*
 




becca333 -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 1:06:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: urantiam

4000 hits and only about 200 replies. If I count the repeats, not to many members have gave me their opinions. It would be nice to hear from the 3800 others who read this thread.

Urantiam


Do you really need to hear 3800 more people tell you you're being an idiot?




UtopianRanger -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 1:42:11 AM)

As it pertains to this thread, I'd like to see the ''Mr Hyde'' side of Mod Eleven reconstituted.



 - R




becca333 -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 1:56:14 AM)

Somewhere out there is a guy thinking up new posts to this thread to get us all going, and laughing like a loon as he posts to stir us all up.  I can't believe that this is real - NOBODY could be so naive/desperate/manipulative.

Could they?




brightspot -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 4:48:48 AM)

Is it just me or can anyone else see these two meeting at a "Loony Bin"? [sm=mrpuffy.gif]
I'm sorry but this guy spooks me out, maybe med's are in order.
 
*Brightspot




mayapple -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 5:07:32 AM)

Okay, Urantiam, here goes.  You puzzle me and intrigue me.  Whenever I see there are more posts on this thread I read them.  Like many others, I'm worried for you and I cannot understand why you seem to have no worries for yourself.  I cannot understand why you would settle for so little and commit yourself to so many unknowns, unless that in itself is where you get your thrill. 
 
You don't seem to care what anyone says, and you said at one point in scolding all of the responders that you only wanted to hear from dominant males, and yet now you ask for *everyone's* input.  (Why?)  If you thrive on seeking attention, how will you thrive in your Mistress's household?  She is not going to give you attention.  She is going to use you.  She has made that very clear in her revised profile which seems to ooze contempt for subs and even for Dommes.  She is going to use you and then spit you out when she has no further use for you, when you interfere with her own plans to submit to a strong man.  She does not seem to know or understand you; she wrote of you as someone who seems to need protection from the big bad opinions on this thread, and yet you are doing a great job of sticking up for yourself in *this* setting, and most of us look at the situation and can only think that you need protection from her.
 
Neither your Mistress nor you seems to have any thoughts of your own growth, or what she will bring to the relationship.  She doesn't actually want a D/s relationship; she wants an employee she doesn't have to pay.  She makes that crystal clear in her profile: 
 
"She will be very greatful to have a slave at her service 24/7, but he will be just like am employee, except working for free. Personaly, I am sick of this scam. I want to own slaves as servants, but I am not ready to pretend to be what I am not just to get slaves."
 
Urantiam, the way I see it, you are a very nice person who has created a monster.  You woke up the beast in this Mistress of yours, this bedroom slut who now realizes she will take on a household of slaves to work for free and to be tied up whispering quietly to themselves in the basement while some guy upstairs gives her what she really wants, before she tosses her harem out on the street.  And you wonder why we are worried??
 
What I'm worried about is that when you go to be her work-for-free servant/slave, she will never permit you access to the Internet or any sort of life of your own, and we'll never hear from you again until she is done using you.
 
I am a sub who has been going gradually deeper into submission.  In serving another, I am learning and growing, with his help.  I feel safe and protected and supported on this journey.  You are hurtling headfirst into a deep hole without any sort of safety net of friends or any sort of genuine care from your own Mistress.  Clearly you must be desperate to serve, or you would not put yourself into this situation.  You've made it clear you intend to honor your rash commitment to a person you've never met, who feels absolutely no sense of obligation to you.  We are just trying to tell you that you don't need to do this.  There is no dishonor in reconsidering.  There is honor in taking care of yourself first of all, even if you hope to serve a Mistress.  She has expressed that she is willing for you to meet and get acquainted in person before you decide to make the commitment to serve as her slave.  It seems you are determined to leap before you look, and none of us understands why.
 
Like many others, I wish you well, but I cannot foresee a happy ending in this for you, and I hope you will declare a timeout from your pledge while you take a good hard look at yourself as well as your Mistress and ask yourself why you are so eager to be treated like a person of no worth.
 
mayapple
 
 




buffiyum -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 5:15:10 AM)

Well.....
this said very well, what buffy thought too.
respectfully
buffy (from one who has made her own mistakes in the past)




spectreandnectre -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 5:16:58 AM)

i think she said it well there...M/most of U/us are at a point that we have no idea what to tell you any longer because you are not listening to reason




Furr -> RE: Mistress is worried (5/31/2006 6:15:30 AM)

First, let Me admit that I have not read the entire thread.  But the answer seems very easy to Me.  When your Mistress is "entertaining" ( and your services are not required)  She only needs to put you in your cage, preferably in the basement.  you can stay there, disturbing no one.




collarworthy -> RE: Mistress is worried (6/3/2006 12:58:27 PM)

THE RESPONSE
 

Ive been avoiding this thread for the last couple weeks as I refuse to get caught up in the somewhat hysterical frenzy that has overtaken many of its readers since it was first posted. But as I've emptied my bedroom of lovers for now, and the next wave doesnt rush in for about an hour, I thought I should take a moment to respond. I'm allowed that much,surely, as I'm not even the one who started the thread.

From what I've been able to gather so far, half of you think Urantiams crazy, half of you think I'm crazy, and generally speaking, most of you feel we're BOTH crazy. Now, from nine to five I work in a technical business that requires me to think along lines I"m not always famliar with. So when I'm struggling to figure out what purpose a rocker panel has, or how to install a trailer brake for the first time, I tell my instructor: EXPLAIN IT TO ME AS THO I'M FIVE YEARS OLD. I will use that policy here, with this site, as many of you seem to be having problems understanding this thread and how it began. So........


THE BEGINNING
                                        
I like rough sex. Always have and probably always will. Things dont even start to heat up for me until the cuffs are out. And if I'm not called a whore at least twice before being tied to the bedpost with a set of nipple clamps on, then to me, thats not even a good first date.

This sexual mindset has made it necessary for me to seek out Dominant men. Lusty, agressive, delightfully kinky men. Men who have no problem taking control of the reins and using me like the whore I am in the bedroom, leaving me whimpering like a wounded kitten and paralyzed with emotion.

However, once the sex is over? Once the clothes are back on and the coffee is being poured? Then I turn in to Me. The submissive kitten disappears and in its place is left an independant, demanding, outspoken, honest-even-when-it-kills-me woman, who at the end of copulation, would really just prefer he leave now. I mean, we've already accomplished what I was seeking; is there something more?

My T.V. suddenly becums my best friend, and if he dares to speak during Survivor, well, he will have to get out immediately. At that point, a Doms presence isn't even required in the same room. All I want is to lay back, relax, soak in the afterglow, and relive the memory..........several times. During sex, he was my fantasy and he OWNED me; after sex, back off, or my next fantasy might be beating him in the head with a torque wrench.

Now, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that this kind of attitude doesnt go over well with even your average male, let alone a whip-wielding, mask-wearing, card-carrying, honest to the bottom of his torture chamber Dom. And since I've never been attracted to submissive men, I was certain I would be alone forever. And then.....

ENTER URANTIAM
                                       
When Urantiam first wrote me, I was listed as a sub. Since my needs were mostly physical, it only made sense for me to list myself that way. I reminded him that as he was also a sub, that I could never dominate him the BDSM sense, so we had nothing in common, and I wrote him off. I went weeks without responding to his messages.

But then one day, I had some time to kill between a fleet of sailors and the Chippendale dancers, so I wrote him back, and I found myself immersed in a conversation I had never had before. It was the first time in months I had spoken to a man online that didnt order me to have my clit pierced or learn to function as his human toilet.  I was able to tell Urantiam everything. Suddenly, I could express my personality in truth, without being told to go stand in a corner or spank myself for being disrespectful.

He listened to me. Instead of barking out orders, he just listened. We talked like two human beings. Not like dom and sub or pet and mistress, but just like two normal people. We discussed our kinks and our fetishes; we agreed on the fact that neither of us approve of giving, or receiving, extreme pain, and how ridiculous we think it is that some people would subject themselves to drinking urine and being hung by their nipples in the name of pleasure.We talked about how we'd both been single for over 20 years, largely becuz of the fact that our sexual needs didnt function well with our non sexual needs.  He didn't judge me for being the controlling, demanding woman I am outside of the bedroom. And I didn't judge him for wanting to serve a dominant woman in a domestic situation. Five weeks later, we still talk for hours on the phone every nite, and the more we talk, the more convinced I am that I never was, and never will be, your typical sub/slave.

Urantiam serves becuz its his need: my need to serve is centered soley between my legs. Once their open, I'll do anything I'm told to do; but once they're closed, its back to reality and I become the one in control. With this fact in mind, the next step was.......
THE RE-BIRTH
                                       
Once I accepted the fact that I was a dominant person, and that I truly enjoy being served, it wasn't such a far stretch to figure out that if I like being pleased by one sub, chances are I will love being pleased by more than one sub. So Urantiam and I discussed the subject of having a poly lifestyle. We had already agreed that we were the perfect match. His fantasy of serving a woman made it impossible for him to find a relationship in a normal vanilla sex world; and my post-sex controlling personality made it impossible for me to find anything OTHER than sex. So we decided, together, that if I could find one or two other subs who agreed with my idea of serving; subs who seek a lifetstyle where they would serve me as their queen, never be abused, but always know that my needs came first, then we would share our life. And at that point came......

THE THREAD!!!
                                          
Urantiam was concerned that his, or other subs presences, might make it difficult for me to find a dominant lover to please me in the bedroom. He posted the thread asking for advice on the subject. Of the 5000 people who read the thread, most of those who responded were quick to point out how mystified they were with my sudden transformation from sub to dom, and many had pretty firm opinions on how he and I ended up together, and the inevitable outcome. I would like to touch on a couple of those in closing.

First, to those who commented on how Urantiam has to move all the way to B.C. just to get laid, well, that doesnt say much for Quebec women, let alone Quebec hookers! I'm no math wizard, but I'm certain that for what its going to cost him to relocate, he could buy a whole bus load of prostitutes.And for an extra $20.00, they'd probably let him serve them dinner in bed, which is one of his fantasies.

And as for the query that perhaps I have some horribly sadistic plan in mind for him, sadly enuff for some of the readers, that is untrue also. And whats even sadder is that, if I weren't against torture, extreme pain, etc; if I had come on this site breathing fire about how I plan to casterate him or insert a pony tail in his ass or force him to let me crap in his mouth, none of this would even be an issue with you people. You would have just written us off as another typical Mistress / sub relationship. That, in itself, is what gives the world of BDSM a bad name.




SweetDommes -> RE: Mistress is worried (6/3/2006 5:42:25 PM)

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