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Arpig -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/30/2011 9:03:47 PM)

I stand corrected. I didn't realise we were discussing rescue sluts.




lizi -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/30/2011 9:32:41 PM)

As others have said, it matters because we think it does. It's only for us, we aren't making a statement to anyone else or for the general public. No one ever even knows what it is.  

For us, it somehow gives our relationship weight and solidity, and it is the perfect way for us to show each other that we honor our commitment. It's a simple pleasure like holding hands, it makes us smile. He likes seeing it, I like wearing it. It's a meaningful gesture for both of us.

Oh...and respect. On his side he said it's something he gave to me in order to respect me and what I mean to him. On my side, I wear it for the exact same reasons.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/30/2011 11:29:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig
I stand corrected. I didn't realise we were discussing rescue sluts.

[sm=onphone.gif] hallo . . .  911 emergency services?  Yes, I would like to order some "rescue sluts"!  You know, the ones that run around nekked on all fours with brandy on their collar.  No, I don't want an ambulance, I want the "rescue sluts"!  What do mean "what's type of emergency" . . .  <click>   hello?    Hello?


Note to self: add "rescue sluts" to vocabulary. 




ranja -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 12:03:57 AM)

it only matters to us when we are playing sexy games like that
... and i have lost my wedding ring aswell, it is indeed the contract behind it that is important for us




GreedyTop -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 12:08:18 AM)

to me personally, a collar means nothing more than something cute to wear (a la Abby on NCIS).  I do NOT discount that others find more meaning to it.





ResidentSadist -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 4:26:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
to me personally, a collar means nothing more than something cute to wear (a la Abby on NCIS).  I do NOT discount that others find more meaning to it.

Come hear my pretty, I have something "cute" for you to wear.  Never mind the inscription on the tag that says "RS's meatwhore, porperty of Phoenix House".

[:)]




GreedyTop -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 8:03:43 AM)

I'm skeerd of you.... LOL




FukinTroll -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 8:15:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I'm skeerd of you.... LOL


Would you prefer sumthin in a pretty green that sez TrollTopia?

Slurp~




Marc2b -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 8:17:55 AM)

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Oh......And when I get lost nice people know where to send me home


So that's what all those "lost" posters tacked to the trees and telephone poles were about. If we return you, do we get a reward? Because, if I don't get a reward then you are heading straight to the pound! Hopefully, some one will adopt you before your time is up. [:)]

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As for the OP's question:

For me it's the usual stuff. A collar denotes an inferior status (we collar animals), can be used to secure the slave or leash her and lead her around and... it's hard to put into words... but it just looks so damn sexy in a primal way. For me, a naked woman with her hands secured behind her back and being led around in a collar and leash is one ot the sexist, most arousing images there is.





GreedyTop -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 8:22:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I'm skeerd of you.... LOL


Would you prefer sumthin in a pretty green that sez TrollTopia?

Slurp~



is it cute? will it clash with what I am wearing?




FukinTroll -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 8:24:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

quote:

ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I'm skeerd of you.... LOL


Would you prefer sumthin in a pretty green that sez TrollTopia?

Slurp~



is it cute? will it clash with what I am wearing?


Very cute and accents nekkid perfectly!

Slurp~




Arturas -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 8:28:31 AM)

A physical collar is a neverending unbroken circle joining her mind and her heart for her One. It is so important that there are some, perhaps many, submissives who wish it to be permanently locked metal.

Arturas

This is a "fast reply" to the OP only




mysouldesire -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (3/31/2011 7:57:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

I mean the collar itself. Not the relationship. I think we'll all pretty much agree that the collar itself is just a symbol, and in itself doesn't really define the relationship. Just like a wedding ring isn't what makes you married. If someone walks out the door for work one morning without their wedding ring on, they aren't somehow NOT married for the day until they get it back on, right?

So my question is, if we KNOW that we are still owned, or still own someone, even if the collar doesn't happen to currently be around the neck, why does having that collar even matter?

(No, Im not trying to be snarky or annoying. Im just having one of those days where I think too much. Im just curious about everyone's opinion on this one)




Committement.

It is my belief that a symbol of committment (call it a collar if you will) many times cements the relationship, much like a marriage and rings.

I would hope a symbol of committment is given to me, when I embrace a committment to my dominant man.





MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (4/3/2011 9:01:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

Oh......And when I get lost nice people know where to send me home


[sm=rofl.gif] 




salemartist -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (4/4/2011 5:42:58 AM)

as you can see, alot of people put alot of meaning into the collar and the wearing of it. Some where it 24/7 like a wedding ring, others only for dress up, with the mental collar always on. Generaly most do not use it for the traditional uses of a collar, especially brandy barrels. I do like the idea of being able to tether a leash to it, and when combined with cuffs can be fun to play connect the links.
When used in bedroom bondage scenes it can be a symbol of the play scene being "on" where when the collar is on, the scene is on, people that dont do 24/7 D/s power exchange and live as just counterparts and on a even level, can use the collar to symbolize play time / roleplay is "on"

couldnt you put a little tag on it so if someone finds her they will know her name and where she lives and if shes had all her shots.




rosanegra -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (4/4/2011 6:55:39 AM)

I am hoping I can answer this coherently, given my current state of sleep deprivation...

I think there are many different angles from which to approach this question.

I would start by defining the word, "collar."

Like many words in the dictionary, it has multiple definitions.

To some it is simply some sort of band that could be made from any number of materials, and it can be used as a means of securing or leading [insert preferred being here].

To some it is nothing more than a piece of jewelry, or an accessory.

To some it is a symbolic item.. a collar in this sense isn't even necessarily what we traditionally think of as a collar. In this sense, a wedding ring could be considered a collar... it is a symbol of commitment. It is like any item we attach a sentimental significance to. That item may not be a necessary reminder of whatever sentiment we attach to it, but it is a nice way of having a tangible symbol of whatever feeling or emotion we are trying to hang on to.

Shortly before his year long deployment, my husband surprised me with a pair of "Forget me not" earrings. They weren't anything fancy, but the meaning behind them was touching. It was thoughtful.. it had significance. The earrings themselves were cheap.. The little colored stones in them began falling out about a month into the deployment.. but I *NEVER* took the earrings off... I was determined to wear them the whole year long. A couple of my friends actually teased me over it.

A collar can mean any one of a number of things to someone... it can even be all of those things to a particular person, depending upon the context.

The reason it matters to some people? It is a physical representation of an emotional binding. Not everyone needs or wants that. Some who need or want it don't even need or want it all of the time.

Heck.. I would even go so far as to say that the physical item we are referring to isn't even the "collar." The collar *is* that emotional binding. The physical item is just a symbol. In the BDSM sense, the real collaring is on the inside, not the outside. And *that* definitely matters!

Just my $0.02




Prinsexx -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (4/4/2011 9:33:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

Since you're speaking of ownership (and a purely subjective issue):

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Why does a collar matter?

Because the owner says it does.

Absolutely.





Prinsexx -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (4/4/2011 9:35:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

I mean the collar itself. Not the relationship. I think we'll all pretty much agree that the collar itself is just a symbol, and in itself doesn't really define the relationship. Just like a wedding ring isn't what makes you married. If someone walks out the door for work one morning without their wedding ring on, they aren't somehow NOT married for the day until they get it back on, right?

So my question is, if we KNOW that we are still owned, or still own someone, even if the collar doesn't happen to currently be around the neck, why does having that collar even matter?

(No, Im not trying to be snarky or annoying. Im just having one of those days where I think too much. Im just curious about everyone's opinion on this one)


It's like asking what bread and wine mean.
It depends on your faith.




liveinposs4bislv -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (4/5/2011 3:58:36 AM)

There are some people who offer submission before they have formally submitted to their Dominant, if it works for them  that is fine.
To me that devalues the special gift submission can be.
Some say that current society is suffering from a lack or rites of passage.
These are ceremonies  that the we have to attain.
Sometimes by age, sometimes by joining a society.
Observers of anthropogy say that societies with lots of rites of passage seem more coherent.
It maybe that gang culture is a reflection of this.
Having a collar given can show real ownership and deep sense of something special.
Of course, anyone can walk away at any time - non consensual slavery is quite correctly illegal.
having a symbol can be nice.
something to wear with pride.





MissImmortalPain -> RE: Why does a collar matter? (4/6/2011 3:49:27 PM)

When my last realationship ended(badly after four years) and my sub took off I expected to find his collar somewhere in my house. When I spoke to him sometime later I asked him where it was. He told me he had taken it with him because he wanted to keep it. It was later stolen but the point is it ovbiously meant enough to both of us that we wanted it even when things were over. I personally don't hand out collars to anyone I haven't been with for a long time and I think that they longer you have had one the more it can mean to you. But that is just my opinion.




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