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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 12:23:10 PM

isoladyboss

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Obama has been deserted by Independents. GOP friction or a Tea Party defection is unlikely to save Obama from big losses in 2012.

The DNC can't use its lesser of two evils arguement credibly, can't use anti war, can't use change. The only people still buying those lies were brainwashed long ago.

Three wars, huge unemployment figures, a massive deficit and no "Decider" to run against; Obama is praying the Tea Party and Sarah Palin are enough to spook the voters into ignoring his staggering record of failure, lies, and hypocrisy.

There will be an "anyone but Obama" election in 2012. The Democrats only have their base left and even liberals capable of independent thought (the Matt Damons of the DNC) don't seem enthralled anymore.

The lack of credible GOP challengers isn't that daunting.

Obama is going to have to run on his record: three wars (Libya will be a war, there is mission creep every day), Guantanamo, "no child left behind", supporting Islamists in Libya, bailouts of banks, bailouts of insurers (AIG), bailouts of automakers, Obamacare's penalties will be revving up before too long, domestic spying etc.

Obama has exposed himself as a flip flopper and hypocrite of the highest order.

Even if the GOP loses the Tea Party it won't bring Independents back to Obama.

Obama will be a one termer, he makes Jimmy Carter look good by comparison.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 12:28:04 PM

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Yeah, where you gonna get a fuckin nutsucker that will end the wars, have any sort of actual fiscal responsibility credentials (heres a prob if there is one they are under 35) and fuckin Z A you loaded a whole bunch of W and nutsucker shit on him with no child left behind and several others.

Nobody will vote in a nutsucker, not even a nutsucker cuz their aint enough of em.

For your inspection: Reid, Pelosi.....account for it in light of your political insightfulness

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 12:37:44 PM

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You have to wonder where he got the balls to post that...or was it just pure ,sheer ,dumb stupidity?

No, it's because he has white balls and black balls are wery, wery, bad.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 12:41:27 PM

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What I realize is that Obama has divided this country politically and racially moreso than any other POTUS in my lifetime.

Another thing I realize is that if the government gets shut down it will be Obama's and Democrats fault for not enacting a 2011 Budget last year when the Republicans couldn't do anything to stop them.

Racially yes (which was predicted long before he won), but politically I dont think it can be laid at Obama's feet. These are difficult times both domestically and foreign policy wise, and that always exacerbates ideological differences. I dont think it would be any different with Shrillary or McCain in the WH. The only difference with Obama is that he laid claim to being able to reach across the aisle, and not only hasn't he done enough of that himself , he's delegated far too much to idealogues like Pelosi and Reid, who wouldnt know a compromise if it was beaten into them.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 12:50:59 PM

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Got to tell you... I am so looking forward to the next election...it is going to be so much fun,first watching the Repubs attack each other in the primaries....than we get the humor of "prediction season" during the general,wherein each and every rightist predicts doom and gloom for Obama....only to eat shit in Nov.
Hurry up and get here 2012

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 1:22:20 PM

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Isn't it funny how the racists keep insisting that Obama has failed?

Do they really think people will not understand that we've avoided a replay of the Great Depression? That Obama successfully created a consumer protection agency that scares the corpoartists so much they are having their Congresscritters spend time trying to attack the head of the agency to undermine the agency? Never mind the huge savings to college loans and all the other little things his administration has got done in 2 years.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 1:48:58 PM

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Isn't it funny how the racists keep insisting that Obama has failed?

Do they really think people will not understand that we've avoided a replay of the Great Depression? That Obama successfully created a consumer protection agency that scares the corpoartists so much they are having their Congresscritters spend time trying to attack the head of the agency to undermine the agency? Never mind the huge savings to college loans and all the other little things his administration has got done in 2 years.

Isnt it funny how those who can't debate issues play the race card?

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 1:50:58 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Isn't it funny how the racists keep insisting that Obama has failed?

Do they really think people will not understand that we've avoided a replay of the Great Depression? That Obama successfully created a consumer protection agency that scares the corpoartists so much they are having their Congresscritters spend time trying to attack the head of the agency to undermine the agency? Never mind the huge savings to college loans and all the other little things his administration has got done in 2 years.

Isnt it funny how those who can't debate issues play the race card?

Are you claiming RacerJim isn't a racist? Do you think people started calling him a racist spontaneously?

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 1:51:55 PM

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That's what DK was pointing out, yes.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 1:57:50 PM

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Lucy,

This is where it will develop whether or not the TEA party groups will stay Republican or not.

Basically, the Republican Party was given a chance ... if they fuck it up, and act just like "Dems Lite", then either the party will be completely taken over, or the TEA party members will seek other avenues.

Which presents the TP with an interesting dilemma, since they can't possibly win elections as a third party.

True, but it points to a possible scenario:

The Democrats or the "Democrat Lite" parties continue not address the issues, and the economy continues to worsen (or even if the economy doesn't worsen, the deficit will continue to balloon), and one day, there will no longer be the ability to continue without massive readjustments (not the current "pain" that we might feel if we address things now).

That's when the shit hits the fan. It's likely that the word "chaotic" will become common, and all bets are off on the future political landscape of the nation.

Dunno. That might be exactly what we need.

Firm

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 2:02:30 PM

slvemike4u

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quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Isn't it funny how the racists keep insisting that Obama has failed?

Do they really think people will not understand that we've avoided a replay of the Great Depression? That Obama successfully created a consumer protection agency that scares the corpoartists so much they are having their Congresscritters spend time trying to attack the head of the agency to undermine the agency? Never mind the huge savings to college loans and all the other little things his administration has got done in 2 years.

Isnt it funny how those who can't debate issues play the race card?

Funny thing is it was racistjim who first played the race card here....and you echoed him.
So tell me again how it is our side that needed the race card?

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 2:05:29 PM

willbeurdaddy

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quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Lucy,

This is where it will develop whether or not the TEA party groups will stay Republican or not.

Basically, the Republican Party was given a chance ... if they fuck it up, and act just like "Dems Lite", then either the party will be completely taken over, or the TEA party members will seek other avenues.

Which presents the TP with an interesting dilemma, since they can't possibly win elections as a third party.

True, but it points to a possible scenario:

The Democrats or the "Democrat Lite" parties continue not address the issues, and the economy continues to worsen (or even if the economy doesn't worsen, the deficit will continue to balloon), and one day, there will no longer be the ability to continue without massive readjustments (not the current "pain" that we might feel if we address things now).

That's when the shit hits the fan. It's likely that the word "chaotic" will become common, and all bets are off on the future political landscape of the nation.

Dunno. That might be exactly what we need.

Firm

Hopefully the TP will take a dose of pragmatism for 2012. Nothing can really be done without controlling the Senate. If both houses are controlled and the GOP still isn't able to tie up the purse strings then your scenario is all too possible.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 2:07:25 PM

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That is pretty unrealistic, to go from 2 to 220 something in the house and 1 to 60 in the senate.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 2:07:44 PM

slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Isn't it funny how the racists keep insisting that Obama has failed?

Do they really think people will not understand that we've avoided a replay of the Great Depression? That Obama successfully created a consumer protection agency that scares the corpoartists so much they are having their Congresscritters spend time trying to attack the head of the agency to undermine the agency? Never mind the huge savings to college loans and all the other little things his administration has got done in 2 years.

Isnt it funny how those who can't debate issues play the race card?

Are you claiming RacerJim isn't a racist? Do you think people started calling him a racist spontaneously?

Wait one moment there Ken....I think it was I who can proudly lay claim to tagging him racistjim.
Lets give credit where credit is due,I am also responsible for tagging Don Mattingly,former first baseman with the New York Yankees(who,predictably won their home opener today,,,,go Yankees,yay for baseball and spring)as Donnie baseball a riff off of Ted Williams much more famous nic of Teddy ballgame.
But as we see here I have a knack for appyling nicknames that catch on in the public consciousness
(I am also very modest,so I never sued the sportswriters who purloined Donnie baseball from me)

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 2:50:04 PM

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Jesus, wasn't just last november when we swept this huge republican majority into the house with this mandate to get our financial house in order?

As I remember, libtards and dims were running hysterically thru the streets, crying, its all over its all over, gnashing their teeth and wailing in the outer darkness, and the republican thugs were goosestepping into the capital with their truncheons at the ready and gonna show us welfare fucking socialist slimeballs how real capitalists do it.

Whas happun?

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 3:13:32 PM

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I'm waiting for the government shut down to see if there is a giant I/O button pressing ceremony.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 3:22:24 PM

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I'm hoping the assholes can avoid shutting it down....I'm on SSI,and would really appreciate it if they would send my check on time

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 3:29:38 PM

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Well you could be living in Belgium they haven't had a government since last year.

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RE: Boehner has to go says........ - 3/31/2011 4:03:02 PM

slvemike4u

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Lets assume I lived in Belgium...as long as I have access to an ATM all is good,my check is direct deposited...oh wait,in your example I was actually a Belgian,oops.Never mind,carry on

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