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lockedaway -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 10:00:15 AM)
Jesus, talk about being mindless! The State is not a party to a marriage. The marriage is a contractual agreement that is sanctioned by the State in its formation and terminated by the State at its conclusion. The State is not a party to a business partnership either. It determines the rules for the formation, taxation and winding down of the business partnership but the State is not a partner. Oh sure, the State will be a partner if liberals get their way because that is the only way that liberals can support themselves...but that is another topic. The State is not a party in the sale of an automobile, the State is not a party to a Lease Agreement for real estate, the State is not a party to a contract for home renovation. The State my license all of these activities. The State may, in certain cases, prosecute for violations of applicable laws that relate to these activities. But the State is not a party or partner. The State can be a party by being a Federal Landlord, etc. but that is another subject. The State will occupy the same position in a domestic partnership agreement as it does in a marriage; it will issue a license and preside over its termination. THAT does not make the State a party. It is kind of funny that none of the liberal ding-bats commented on my story about the bum that hangs out at the convenience store in my neighborhood, begging, begging, begging. I offered the guy $50.00 in cash to mow a one acre yard and he looked at me like I was out of my mind! Work??? The guy was clearly offended that I even mentioned the word. Like liberals, he felt he was ENTITLED to the handout. Now I give him nothing. Now I remind him that I offered him money for work but he wouldn't take it. I also note that no great liberal mind addressed my support of social security (especially since it is the payee's money in the first place) or my support of medicare which only works providing 70% is paying for the receiving 30% and CANNOT POSSIBLY WORK when 70% pays for 85% . Nope, that wasn't addressed either. I note that no one took issue with my argument that our debt will be exceeding our GDP this year and that we are going the way of 1920's Germany or modern Greece, Spain, Portugal, etc. And that when our debt exceeds our GDP, our economy will collapse in a manner that makes the Great Depression look like a picnic. (Remember...Japan's lost decade is going into its THIRD decade.) Here's the deal. We think liberals are stupid but the fact of the matter is that they know the country is broke just like we do. They know the pension system can no longer be supported. They know that the government can't keep expanding. They can google the spending charts since WWII just as easily as we can. They see the price at the pump the same way we do. They know that corn has gone up by 400% in the past year just like we do. They see the same creeping inflation by the decreasing number of grocery bags they leave with just like we do. They know that the real estate market is actually still at its high and can free fall a long way before it gets back to the level it was at the early 90's...and we know it too. THE DIFFERENCE between us and them is that they want what they want when they want it. Period. It isn't a battle between the "haves and the have nots" it is now a battle between the "receives and the receive not."

RacerJim -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 10:15:27 AM)
My 22yo Obot nephew recently told me that Republicans will be responsible if Congress doesn't pass another "Continuing Resolution" and the Federal government shuts down. When I reminded him that the reason we're in this situation is because Obama and the Democratic majority Congress didn't pass a budget for 2011 he said so what and that it's up to Republicans to compromise with Obama. My reply to that was only two words... "We won.".

Lucylastic -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 10:20:16 AM)
I wonder if his response was the same as mine would have been [sm=lame.gif]

mnottertail -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 10:23:43 AM)
Liberal ding-bats generally wouldn't bother with neo-con nutsuckers who, when told a fanciful joe the plumber type story as the archetype for no jobs in this country, sashay it out as an argument worthy of consideration.

Lucylastic -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 10:26:53 AM)
I need a snorting with derision emoticon. or put him on igggy too, guess only one will work right now:)

lockedaway -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 10:27:12 AM)
Well, Jimbo, that is a pretty stupid response. Good luck with that. What your response should have been is that Obama has spent more than all U.S. presidents combined. Even leaving Obama out of it, you should have told him that in the past 60 years, U.S. spending has gone up by hundreds if not thousands of percentage points. You should have told him that he was not born to serve a government but that the government was formed to serve him. You should have told him that Obama Care, Cap and Trade, subsidies to create non-germanating seeds and hundreds of other things are, at their root, methods by which to tax, reduce liberty and reduce mobility. You should have told him that the government payroll is higher than it has ever been in history. That government pensions will soon be unfunded. That the president printed 3.3 trillion dollars and gave it to foreign banks. That we do not have an private sector that will be able to support the burgeoning public sector. That he will never own his own home unless it is bequeathed to him and, even if it is, the estate tax will be so high he will be forced to sell it to pay the taxes. Those are the things you should have told him.

lockedaway -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 10:32:25 AM)
I'm sure his response WOULD have been the same as yours if I gave him the chance. Given the chance, I'm sure he would have sneered "there is power in being powerless!" Or he would have said "failure should be rewarded!" Or he would say that "you have what you have because you are fortunate, not because you worked for it." Or he would say "you stole the money you have and you have gained wealth by somehow keeping me down!" Or he would have said that I have a moral obligation to work to pay for someone that refuses to work. Yes, Lucy, I'm sure he would have said all of the brilliant things you would have said had I let him.

slvemike4u -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 11:29:38 AM)
The point of all of that bullshit would have been what? Is racistjim trying to convince his nephew that trusting anyone over 30 is a bad,bad idea?

Moonhead -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 12:24:30 PM)
Racist Jim's over thirty, and his nephew shouldn't trust a word that flops out of his piehole, so that sounds fair enough...

lockedaway -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 12:32:02 PM)
Damn...RacerJim....I apologize. It was only after the idiot left criticized you that I went back and re-read your post. What I took from it, when I first read it, is that you were taking the position of two phenomenal massholes, Schmucky Schumer and Howard Demented, in saying that a government shutdown would be a victory for the Democrats. I misunderstood your post. After reading the slur about you being a racist, I went back, read it and I think you should also what is in my post to your nephew. As far as SlaveMike is concerned, "the point" as you so obtusely asked, is that Jim should teach his nephew that power often exists to beget more power. Our Founding Fathers understood that all too well. Jim should (and I'm sure he does) teach his nephew the beliefs of our Founding Fathers; limited government, capitalism, competition, inalienable rights, etc. As far as the "bullshit" contained in post 146 is concerned, tell me what part is bullshit. Give a few citations as well, let us know your sources and we can debate the point. If you just want to call people racists, however, go right ahead. After all, ad hominem attacks IS what we expect from you.

mnottertail -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 12:45:54 PM)
What your response should have been is that Obama has spent more than all U.S. presidents combined. That is a grandeloquent mound of horseshit, I read no further.

slvemike4u -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/4/2011 6:48:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway Damn...RacerJim....I apologize. It was only after the idiot left criticized you that I went back and re-read your post. What I took from it, when I first read it, is that you were taking the position of two phenomenal massholes, Schmucky Schumer and Howard Demented, in saying that a government shutdown would be a victory for the Democrats. I misunderstood your post. After reading the slur about you being a racist, I went back, read it and I think you should also what is in my post to your nephew. As far as SlaveMike is concerned, "the point" as you so obtusely asked, is that Jim should teach his nephew that power often exists to beget more power. Our Founding Fathers understood that all too well. Jim should (and I'm sure he does) teach his nephew the beliefs of our Founding Fathers; limited government, capitalism, competition, inalienable rights, etc. As far as the "bullshit" contained in post 146 is concerned, tell me what part is bullshit. Give a few citations as well, let us know your sources and we can debate the point. If you just want to call people racists, however, go right ahead. After all, ad hominem attacks IS what we expect from you. Do you honestly believe I give a shit what you are any of your brethren think of me? Whatever could have given you that idea? AS for referring to racistjim...as a racist,well his own words earned him that tag....and given his postings I feel absolutely no compulsion to explain that to you or anyone else. Bye,bye now.

lockedaway -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 11:04:12 AM)
BRILLIANT!!!! SlaveMike at his finest! He can't posit a logical argument against anything I have said nor can he advance an intellectual one. Like Lucy, his response to the things I have said would be: "there is power in being powerless!" or "failure should be rewarded!" or "you have what you have because you are fortunate, not because you worked for it." or "you stole the money you have by somehow keeping me down!" or that a very small percentage of us have a moral obligation to work to pay for someone that refuses to work, etc. His response would be any of the above if he were articulate enough to frame it that way. He calls Jim a racist, relying on nothing to support it except his own vague references to what Jim as posted in the past. This kind of stupidity would be funny if it wasn't endemic of liberals at large. SlaveMike proves my point that liberals not only "want what they want when they want it" but they think what they thought cuz they thunk it. What did you say to me, Mike? Bye bye now? Try to keep it that way. Do me the favor of avoiding the banality of your posts and reserving my comments to the one or two liberals on this message board that think.

slvemike4u -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 11:20:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway BRILLIANT!!!! SlaveMike at his finest! He can't posit a logical argument against anything I have said nor can he advance an intellectual one. Like Lucy, his response to the things I have said would be: "there is power in being powerless!" or "failure should be rewarded!" or "you have what you have because you are fortunate, not because you worked for it." or "you stole the money you have by somehow keeping me down!" or that a very small percentage of us have a moral obligation to work to pay for someone that refuses to work, etc. His response would be any of the above if he were articulate enough to frame it that way. He calls Jim a racist, relying on nothing to support it except his own vague references to what Jim as posted in the past. This kind of stupidity would be funny if it wasn't endemic of liberals at large. SlaveMike proves my point that liberals not only "want what they want when they want it" but they think what they thought cuz they thunk it. What did you say to me, Mike? Bye bye now? Try to keep it that way. Do me the favor of avoiding the banality of your posts and reserving my comments to the one or two liberals on this message board that think. Wow,so much bullshit in one little tirade.This is a message board,I have no other information with which to judge someone that what he himself post's...and racistjim has posted more than enough to warrant the tag. Here's the thing....if it walks like a duck,and TALKS like a duck...it probably ,most definitely is a fucking duck. RacistJim is therefore,in my eyes and the eyes of quite a few others, a.....wait for it....racist. Now you also asked for a logical argument(I can not be more logical that the above)...to what might I ask.The heap of outright bullshit,distortions and lies you cobbled together in post 146.There is no necessity to refute those silly charges,as there is no basis in fact for the majority of them...and certainly no basis to lay all of the too few truths at the exclusive feet of the left. And when I am done posting with you I will let you know in no uncertain terms....the bye bye was just to indicate I was moving on to better things.

lockedaway -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 11:46:03 AM)
"There is no necessity to refute those silly charges,as there is no basis in fact for the majority of them...and certainly no basis to lay all of the too few truths at the exclusive feet of the left." There is a basis in fact for everything I have said. Do a little Googling, show us your mental prowess. On to better things? Like what...getting a subsidy check? Applying for government cheese? Demanding your 40 acres and a mule? I'm sorry, I'm probably taking you away from your mid-day television programming. What a joke!

lockedaway -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 11:57:57 AM)
Hey SlaveMike, do you like to wander around flea markets and garage sales in your off time? Of course you do!! I don't BUT I happened to find myself at a garage sale just the same. I saw some books (not that books would interest you) and I came across a book entilted None-Dare-Call-It-Treason. It was written in 1964 by a guy named....John Storm....I think. Back then it sold for .75. Anyway, it is a pretty phenomenal book. One of the things you will glean from it immediately is that the chasm between the modern liberal and the conservative is so great that *it will never be bridged*. The differences between the people that believe they have a right to be supported or subsidized through the efforts of others and those that believe that people have an obligation/responsibility to support themselves will never be reconciled. Indeed, Storm agrees with Lenin that the only reconciliation is one side conquering the other.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 12:00:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway Hey SlaveMike, do you like to wander around flea markets and garage sales in your off time? Of course you do!! I don't BUT I happened to find myself at a garage sale just the same. I saw some books (not that books would interest you) and I came across a book entilted None-Dare-Call-It-Treason. It was written in 1964 by a guy named....John Storm....I think. Back then it sold for .75. Anyway, it is a pretty phenomenal book. One of the things you will glean from it immediately is that the chasm between the modern liberal and the conservative is so great that *it will never be bridged*. The differences between the people that believe they have a right to be supported or subsidized through the efforts of others and those that believe that people have an obligation/responsibility to support themselves will never be reconciled. Indeed, Storm agrees with Lenin that the only reconciliation is one side conquering the other. A book written almost a half century ago about MODERN liberals and conservatives? No wonder it was only .75

mnottertail -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 12:03:43 PM)
Stormer, actually, minister, goldwater republican, and called peristroika and glasnost soviet propaganda. Had a big case of the ass at Fabians. Yeah, he was fucked up all the way around, wrote None dare call it Education....as well, had the right idea about education being flawed, but got everything else all fucked up about it, my opinion.

Lucylastic -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 12:14:36 PM)
Ya figures, wanting to go back to the sixties. like wanting to crawl back into mommys womb BTW smart boy...Locked, if you are going to quote me as responding to you, make sure I have actually said something to YOU and not Racist Jim, because I certainly was not responding to you in anyway shape or form. You cant even get that right

Kirata -> RE: Democrats vs Republican voters (4/5/2011 12:16:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lockedaway The differences between the people that believe they have a right to be supported or subsidized through the efforts of others and those that believe that people have an obligation/responsibility to support themselves will never be reconciled... the only reconciliation is one side conquering the other. I think that's a false and pernicious dichotomy. Yes people have a responsibility to avoid imposing unnecessary burdens on their fellows, but also we have a duty to help our fellows when their circumstances leave them in need. K.

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