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,your statement,as far as it went,could be viewed as truthful

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ORIGINAL: ArizonaBossMan

Ya know, who cares what that preacher does? He can do that. This is the United States of America. Who is at fault for the riots in Afghanistan? Duh. The rioters. These muslims are in perpetual outrage. That has never changed. SO WHAT?!

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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the american revolutionaries did target women and children of the tories.

Care to try to back that up?

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ORIGINAL: ArizonaBossMan

Ya know, who cares what that preacher does? He can do that. This is the United States of America. Who is at fault for the riots in Afghanistan? Duh. The rioters. These muslims are in perpetual outrage. That has never changed. SO WHAT?!

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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,your statement,as far as it went,could be viewed as truthful

Thank you.

Winning!!!

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

We already did this.
You might review posts 258, 259, 260, 261, and 262.
Mixing all that hostility with the stupid is a really bad idea, dude.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

It was not only a war of Independence but also a civil war... Just keep in mind that many of these Tories were combatants in the war not innocents.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: stellauk

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ORIGINAL: ArizonaBossMan

Ya know, who cares what that preacher does? He can do that. This is the United States of America. Who is at fault for the riots in Afghanistan? Duh. The rioters. These muslims are in perpetual outrage. That has never changed. SO WHAT?!

So what? Well I can spell it out, but (1) I don't think you'll get it and (2) even if you do, you won't accept it. But let's give it a go, right?

1. This concept of 'freedom' that the more loonie right wing contingent among you keep going on about no longer exists. It's a crock of BS. Check out the PTA (Prevention of Terrorism Acts), you might also like to take a look around you and see stuff like homes being foreclosed, people losing jobs, others struggling to find work, others struggling to survive and the American economy resembling what tactfully I would describe as a dog's dinner.

2. America ain't Number One any more and hasn't been for some time. Before the world would pay attention to what the US President said, but since y'all decided to give a village idiot two terms most of us now keep up mainly for shits and giggles. It might have been different but starting two wars on a crock of bullshit and lies lost Americans a lot of credibility.

3. Understand that unlike you, who sees no difference between a Muslim and a terrorist, almost a full ten years after ONE terrorist attack, I can make a distinction between the loonie cross-waving Koran burning extreme right wing fascist element of American society, the more moderate, and probably deeply disenfranchised and disappointed conservatives who, together with what you would probably describe as libtards, make up a majority of decent, hard working Americans.

4. Also unlike you I don't have a superiority complex and a limited Americo-centric perspective of the world which is fed and played upon by plenty of made up stories and bullshit by right wing media concerns such as Fox News and anything else owned by people like Turner and Murdoch.

Americans are not the only victims of Al Qaeda terrorist attacks you know. But the level of hatred and ignorance shown towards Muslims on these two threads has been quite staggering.

Y'all must be so proud of yourselves for exercising your 'freedom' of personal self-expression but I also wonder whether you are just as proud of displaying just how bigoted and ignorant you appear to be as well.

Is this part of what being American is really about? Is it? You know this is how it looks from the outside. Seems you guys just can't get through life without having some commonly perceived object of hatred, whether it be Muslims, Russians, Mexicans, or among the loonie right wing elements liberals, socialists, even your President.

What's it like to have that 'freedom' without any sense of personal responsibility or consideration for others? You know, not to have any sort of consideration for all the US servicemen who are still out there, thousands of miles from their family, there on the frontline, in among all the danger, or even not to care about those who have died and the families who have been bereaved as a result of these wars.

Not to mention all those servicemen who went out there, fought and survived, but they have come back with lives ruined as a result of stuff like PTSD, the ones who still remember, experience flashbacks, and those who have come back to nothing.

I'm not even going to mention all the Iraqis and Afghanistanis who have died, been displaced, and suffered, and there's no point even mentioning it, because it won't change anything to you. They're not American see, they're something less, not worth any sort of consideration seeing as you've elected to label them all as terrorists and radicals.

But please don't mind me, nor these words. They're not important right? I'm not an American, I don't share your Americo-centric views which keep you wrapped up in your own little world of illusions divorced from the reality of what is really going on in the world. This is just a lesser opinion from a lesser person.

Don't let it stop you from being a proud, patriotic American who has the freedom to say what he likes, when he likes, how he likes, about who he likes and fuck the consequences.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I respect you and stella's opinion on many subjects but her post, you seem to agree with, is childish, naive, and narrow minded...Really quite below her normal intelligent insight.

You both sound like jealous siblings to a big brother.

Butch

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Tweaky: Kdsub, stellauk was responding to drivel from ArizonaBossMan, whose posts ooze bigotry arrogance and ignorance from every pixel. His aggressive provocations invite impassioned responses.

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But what is also repugnant to me is the attempt by some to assert that the murders were no worse than the burning of a book

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

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ORIGINAL: stellauk

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ORIGINAL: ArizonaBossMan

Ya know, who cares what that preacher does? He can do that. This is the United States of America. Who is at fault for the riots in Afghanistan? Duh. The rioters. These muslims are in perpetual outrage. That has never changed. SO WHAT?!

So what? Well I can spell it out, but (1) I don't think you'll get it and (2) even if you do, you won't accept it. But let's give it a go, right?

1. This concept of 'freedom' that the more loonie right wing contingent among you keep going on about no longer exists. It's a crock of BS. Check out the PTA (Prevention of Terrorism Acts), you might also like to take a look around you and see stuff like homes being foreclosed, people losing jobs, others struggling to find work, others struggling to survive and the American economy resembling what tactfully I would describe as a dog's dinner.

2. America ain't Number One any more and hasn't been for some time. Before the world would pay attention to what the US President said, but since y'all decided to give a village idiot two terms most of us now keep up mainly for shits and giggles. It might have been different but starting two wars on a crock of bullshit and lies lost Americans a lot of credibility.

3. Understand that unlike you, who sees no difference between a Muslim and a terrorist, almost a full ten years after ONE terrorist attack, I can make a distinction between the loonie cross-waving Koran burning extreme right wing fascist element of American society, the more moderate, and probably deeply disenfranchised and disappointed conservatives who, together with what you would probably describe as libtards, make up a majority of decent, hard working Americans.

4. Also unlike you I don't have a superiority complex and a limited Americo-centric perspective of the world which is fed and played upon by plenty of made up stories and bullshit by right wing media concerns such as Fox News and anything else owned by people like Turner and Murdoch.

Americans are not the only victims of Al Qaeda terrorist attacks you know. But the level of hatred and ignorance shown towards Muslims on these two threads has been quite staggering.

Y'all must be so proud of yourselves for exercising your 'freedom' of personal self-expression but I also wonder whether you are just as proud of displaying just how bigoted and ignorant you appear to be as well.

Is this part of what being American is really about? Is it? You know this is how it looks from the outside. Seems you guys just can't get through life without having some commonly perceived object of hatred, whether it be Muslims, Russians, Mexicans, or among the loonie right wing elements liberals, socialists, even your President.

What's it like to have that 'freedom' without any sense of personal responsibility or consideration for others? You know, not to have any sort of consideration for all the US servicemen who are still out there, thousands of miles from their family, there on the frontline, in among all the danger, or even not to care about those who have died and the families who have been bereaved as a result of these wars.

Not to mention all those servicemen who went out there, fought and survived, but they have come back with lives ruined as a result of stuff like PTSD, the ones who still remember, experience flashbacks, and those who have come back to nothing.

I'm not even going to mention all the Iraqis and Afghanistanis who have died, been displaced, and suffered, and there's no point even mentioning it, because it won't change anything to you. They're not American see, they're something less, not worth any sort of consideration seeing as you've elected to label them all as terrorists and radicals.

But please don't mind me, nor these words. They're not important right? I'm not an American, I don't share your Americo-centric views which keep you wrapped up in your own little world of illusions divorced from the reality of what is really going on in the world. This is just a lesser opinion from a lesser person.

Don't let it stop you from being a proud, patriotic American who has the freedom to say what he likes, when he likes, how he likes, about who he likes and fuck the consequences.

Stella, once again, Bravo !