Edwynn
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This has already been pointed out in these posts for those who were paying attention, but the repeated failure of many to understand exactly what transpired and Jones culpability in incurring damage far more serious than pissing off a few Muslims, as witnessed by the mindless repetition of the 'free speech' thing, requires that facts be reiterated on a regular basis.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-09-09/news/27074887_1_islamic-extremists-koran-security-risk
"A Florida pastor's plan of holding a rally to burn Korans on the anniversary of 9/11 has ignited fears that Americans' security may be at risk. The international police agency Interpol warned governments worldwide Thursday of an increased chance of terror attacks if the planned event takes place. "If the proposed Koran burning by a pastor in the U.S. goes ahead as planned, there is a strong likelihood that violent attacks on innocent people would follow," the agency said. Interpol added it was acting partly on a request from Pakistan. In the U.S., the FBI issued its own caution that the rally could lead to attacks on the pastor, his congregation and U.S. interests abroad. The State Department warned American embassies to be on high alert this weekend. "Depending on the continued national and international publicity the event receives, it may also inspire retaliatory attacks against U.S. facilities overseas," the FBI said in a statement. Geoffrey Morrell, the Pentagon spokesman, said the Obama Administration is contemplating whether U.S. leaders would call Jones and personally ask him to call the event off."
As it turns out, at least one US leader did in fact call Jones and laid out to him exactly the great danger to US personnel and significant damage to US interests that would unquestionably result were he to proceed with the action.
http://www.newsytype.com/2057-danger-in-koran-burning/
"General David Petraeus has cautioned the church that should the demonstration of burning the Koran take place, it will put servicemen and women in greater danger than ever before."
"The commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, according to the Christian Science Monitor, has asked the church to not partake in any Koran burning. He said that a group of American Christians burning the Koran will accomplish nothing positive. He insists it will only be doing the Taliban and Al Qaeda a favor, as it will be a recruiting tool that highlights perceived American bigotry. He cautioned that American soldiers and civilians abroad will be put in greater danger. He also lamented that winning over hearts and minds in Afghanistan will be next to impossible if these sorts of threats continue."
So then Jones and his 'church' had all this information, and at least paused to give token tempory consideration to the lives of US personnel and US interests.
"The Dove World Outreach Center Church is weighing the decision to go through with the burnings. Pastor Terry Jones said that the members of the church were concerned about the potential impact and are thinking over the planned demonstration, according to CNN. Some pause was given to the members by the warning from Gen. David Petraeus, ... "
They held off on the Sept. date but, having been no less aware of the repercussions and considerations far beyond their little piss ant rock throwing tantrum decided to proceed anyway in March.
Did Patreus ask Jones to stand down on his constitutional right to free speech? He never mentioned it. He informed Jones of the sure and predictable damage that it would cause and asked that he reconsider the proposed action.
Jones considered. Jones said "F#CK YOU!" to soldiers and workers abroad and the national interests of the US, and he never even brought 'free speech' into it. It should not take much powers of observation to understand that Jones never mentioned 'free speech' (at least beforehand) because if he feels that his little nut case religious 'cause' is above and more important than national interests, then it is hardly likely that he would consider something so inconsequential to his concerns as the Constitution or anything therein to be worthy of consideration. His own interpretation of his god was the only thing that mattered, and contained all the 'law' and 'rights' he needed, screw all that secular stuff.
Premeditated, unmitigated, and completely reckless action against his own citizens and his own country, nothing less.
But the constitution said he could.
Well I'm so glad that's been pointed out, what, several hundred times here?
What is actually pointed out is some people's incapacity to comprehend there ever being any consideration that could stand above the right to poop in the public well, being that it remotely, possibly, conceivably, be a 'free speech' issue.
Congratulations on your deep and well thought out understanding of priorities.
So then, we cannot abrogate the of right anyone in our 'society' (and what a complete joke to use the word 'society' at all in this mindset) to shoot himself in the foot with an RPG just because the shooter is in a reclining position and the grenade will likely continue its path and kill several others.
We are not to take any measures in trying to prevent harm to numerous others if there's any possibility whatsoever that it could even conceivably interfere with his holy sacred right to shoot self in foot.
Got it.
< Message edited by Edwynn -- 4/7/2011 4:45:38 PM >
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