quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Thanks for the link....a stark ,and revealing look at the controversy thru the eyes of a "have" .

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Thanks for the link....a stark ,and revealing look at the controversy thru the eyes of a "have" .

You are welcome. I try to start informative threads. It is quite interesting how the guy who once had it all is going farther to the right, and blaming the frugal have-not for his situation. There's a clue there about right-wing behavior. And, not to go all Godwin or anything, but that is similar to how Adolf came to power. The politics of fear, because that, IMO, is what it boils down to. It's Aesop's "The Ant and the Grasshopper" in real life. The grasshopper bought all his expensive toys, and the big trophy house, and now that he has pissed it all away he gets angry and attacks the poor ant who saved and scrimped for her house and her retirement. The grasshopper is suddenly uncertain about his future; he's afraid, and so he lashes out.

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

And the moral of the story is: "government workers are good, capitalists are bad"
We've seen/heard that before.

I always feel sympathy for entrepreneurs who go bust.....

I wonder if the plumber knows the difference between "me" and "I".

quote:

ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou


As far as the cop goes, well, he's not playing the same game, his opinion doesn't matter. 50K plus is more than the average worker in wisconsin makes for the level of education it requires to be a cop, he takes little risk compared to the business owner, near guaranteed employment, early retirement.

quote:

Am I the only one that dislikes both characters in the story?

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Every right winger should read this essay and actually think about what the author has to say.

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The OP's story was so sad, it almost made me cry. Almost.

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou


As far as the cop goes, well, he's not playing the same game, his opinion doesn't matter. 50K plus is more than the average worker in wisconsin makes for the level of education it requires to be a cop, he takes little risk compared to the business owner, near guaranteed employment, early retirement.

Yeah, he only risks his life protecting sorry sacks like you.

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The OP's story was so sad, it almost made me cry. Almost.

quote:

ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

Am I the only one that dislikes both characters in the story?

The plumber was a dipshit. Actually, most people are identical to the plumber whether it be private or public employee. I know people that work for the government that spend every dime they make, because they perceive their job as a law of nature. I also know people that own businesses that spend every single penny, and constantly live on the edge. I also know people that work for corps, and have a healthy household income buying crap from rent one (weekly payment store for crap like tv's).

The moral of the story 80% plus of this country lives like the plumber, IMO, that's why this country is in the shape it is.

But I make more than most I know, that think I'm worse off than they are, because I don't spend my checking account down, and buy things I can't afford. It's kind of funny. I have a used car, paid for, I'm paying off a mortgage in 6 years, that most would take 20-30 to pay off and use the cash for flash. While others making less are driving a new car, living in a neighborhood they can't afford, all on the gamble that nothing will ever go wrong in the 20-30 years it will take them to actually own anything.

The plumber was an idiot, all that will happen is he will go broke and the frugal plumber down the block will buy his equipment at auction for 20% of purchase price, and take his business, regardless of what is happening in wisconsin over a couple decades timeline. The frugal non-debt laden person has a compounding advantage over time. So, Kevin the plumber has 10% credit card, 5 percent mortgage, 6 percent line of credit. average debt interest of 6ish percent with a total debt load equaling one years gross income has a horrific disadvantage over the course of a decade, or rather he has to work 20ish days more every single year just to pay the interest on that snowmobile.

That's huge. but it doesn't matter if you own a business, are an employee, or work for the government, you are dumb and deserve to lose everything, living a life structured around being permanently in debt.

As far as the cop goes, well, he's not playing the same game, his opinion doesn't matter. 50K plus is more than the average worker in wisconsin makes for the level of education it requires to be a cop, he takes little risk compared to the business owner, near guaranteed employment, early retirement. Most business owners deal with the threat of going completely broke constantly when starting, they actually pay taxes, work 7 days a week, cops drive around eating doughnuts and handing out traffic tickets 90% of the time, at least around here. I've called the cops once in my life, and they acted sooooooo put out to actually have to do something for a citizen once in my 35 years of life. So fuck the cops, they don't deserve 50K, early retirement. Fuck em. That's why a large percentage of people don't give a shit about a cops sob story, because they are assholes for the most part. Power obsessed lazy fat assholes. Of course 1 out 10 is probably a good cop, but when encountering a cop it is best to assume the stereotype will apply.