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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 5:03:22 PM   
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Ties between the IRA and Islamic terrorists are deep.



Ah so that's why the Pakistanis have shops in Belfast? And there's me thinking that they were just there selling newspapers, curries and Lottery tickets.

The only link between the IRA and Islamic terrorists is the support and finances they received from Americans.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 5:05:12 PM   
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Ties between the IRA and Islamic terrorists are deep.



Ah so that's why the Pakistanis have shops in Belfast? And there's me thinking that they were just there selling newspapers, curries and Lottery tickets.


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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 6:07:26 PM   
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You think that appeasement is going to work any better now than it did in the 1930s? These assholes LIKE to kill people.

In the old days America would have used this very stupid reaction to a Florida pastor to more easily identify the people we needed to kill by gathering them all in one place and then letting the bullets fly. Imagine if every angry mob that gathered to protest, riot and kill at a supposed insult to Islam came under fire from precision munitions? I would imagine Muslims getting a thicker skin about such things quickly.

Won't it create a real dilemma if a few Religion of Peace practitioners kill some Americans and blame it on Obama breaking his promises to close Gitmo and have open civilian trials for KSM and his buddies?



Congratulations Aylee, you managed to work the word 'kill' into that incoherent hysterical nonsense masquerading as a post no less than four (4) times. At a consistent rate of at least once per paragraph. And every one of them completely unnecessary.

Democratically, you distributed the kills fairly evenly - very non-discriminating of you to share the fun between communities. Should I nominate you for a diversity prize?

It's interesting to note that you promote the same solution ("In the old days ........ precision munitions.") as the people you profess to despise (those ebilllll mooosleems). Slaughtering anyone who disagrees with you is such an effective method of dealing with dissent, isn't it? Shame it's not exactly democratic .......

I'm left wondering on what basis I can tell the difference between you and them. And whether in fact, there is any difference at all.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 6:16:04 PM   
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Here is the thing, you murder innocent people and we put you down like a rabid dog for it.

It is SO multi-cultural! You have a culture that lets you riot and murder innocents and target "infidels" for death. We have a culture that says you die for that.

We all get to have our culture! Win-Win!

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 6:20:32 PM   
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Hmmm. . . and you wonder why I consider you to side with terrorists.


Here is the thing, you murder innocent people and we put you down like a rabid dog for it.

It is SO multi-cultural! You have a culture that lets you riot and murder innocents and target "infidels" for death. We have a culture that says you die for that.

We all get to have our culture! Win-Win!


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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 6:23:12 PM   
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I am not disputing the disproportionality,nor the irrationality of the reaction....all I'm saying is ,sadly,it was predictable.
Are there elements of this culture that seem to have been stuck in some 17th century time warp,of course there are.These actions do not fit any definition of moral,or sane behavior that we would adhere to.
But it is real and it was predictable...and this schmuck preacher has stated he will do this again.
Is there anything sane in his response to this travesty?



I understand what you are saying but I think the focus is misplaced.

Why should anyone in this country have to limit their freedoms to not offend those who seem to be so easily offended?

How many times have we seen this before?   The fatwa against Salman Rushdie, the Danish cartoonist that was almost murdered,
the Danish journalist that was, Comedy Central refusing to air the South Park episodes depicting Muhammad.

And I could list many more.

At what point do we say enough is enough?





At the point where the action initiating the response has a fucking valid point....this didn't and won't in the future.We all know that when flame is applied to paper it will in fact burn...other than that what did this action prove?



So what is it you are saying Mike?

We should limit our First Amendment rights so we don't offend anyone?

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 6:32:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		No RML,,and I am surprised you are having a problem getting the point I have tried to explain 9 different ways from Sunday,it is simple..there was no need,no other point at all than to show disdain for a culture and a belief .
Again what purpose was served by  this idiotic act.....he needed to prove that an American exercising his constitutional rights can indeed burn a Koran?
Didn't we all know this.....was it necessary to do it to exert out right to do it?
I do not see the point made,nor any necessity in the trying.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 6:52:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		By your comments slavemike, it seems as though you think, because radical Muslims will riot and kill people, people should not offend them.

Is that about right?



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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 6:57:15 PM   
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Just like the Canadians

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So what is it you are saying Mike?

We should limit our First Amendment rights so we don't offend anyone?



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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 7:07:37 PM   
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No RML,,and I am surprised you are having a problem getting the point I have tried to explain 9 different ways from Sunday,it is simple..there was no need,no other point at all than to show disdain for a culture and a belief .
Again what purpose was served by  this idiotic act.....he needed to prove that an American exercising his constitutional rights can indeed burn a Koran?
Didn't we all know this.....was it necessary to do it to exert out right to do it?
I do not see the point made,nor any necessity in the trying.


Mike, we usually are on the same page but I'm surprised that you don't see there is no equivalency here.

You cannot justify murdering by what someone else said or did.

If that were the case I would be hunting down posters who offended me on these boards.




(but sometimes I have thought about it)







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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 7:29:26 PM   
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By your comments slavemike, it seems as though you think, because radical Muslims will riot and kill people, people should not offend them.

Is that about right?



No,troll,it is not right....please see one of any of my numerous posts in which I explained my position.


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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 7:30:37 PM   
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Just like the Canadians

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So what is it you are saying Mike?

We should limit our First Amendment rights so we don't offend anyone?




..and the rest of the civilized world.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 7:34:59 PM   
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No RML,,and I am surprised you are having a problem getting the point I have tried to explain 9 different ways from Sunday,it is simple..there was no need,no other point at all than to show disdain for a culture and a belief .
Again what purpose was served by  this idiotic act.....he needed to prove that an American exercising his constitutional rights can indeed burn a Koran?
Didn't we all know this.....was it necessary to do it to exert out right to do it?
I do not see the point made,nor any necessity in the trying.


Mike, we usually are on the same page but I'm surprised that you don't see there is no equivalency here.

You cannot justify murdering by what someone else said or did.

If that were the case I would be hunting down posters who offended me on these boards.




(but sometimes I have thought about it)






RML there is no equivalency,I am not suggesting there is any equivalency !
What I am suggesting is that there are indeed Muslim radicals...and that going out of ones way to feed the flames of their radicalism...to no good purpose...is lunacy.
What was the upside here....the downside was certainly predictable,as was the fact that someone other than the asshole preacher would wind up the victim of the unrest,unrest that was in large part inspired by this idiot.
Plus as I have said before I don't like book burners...plain and simple.


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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 7:58:58 PM   
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RML there is no equivalency,I am not suggesting there is any equivalency !
What I am suggesting is that there are indeed Muslim radicals...and that going out of ones way to feed the flames of their radicalism...to no good purpose...is lunacy.
What was the upside here....the downside was certainly predictable,as was the fact that someone other than the asshole preacher would wind up the victim of the unrest,unrest that was in large part inspired by this idiot.
Plus as I have said before I don't like book burners...plain and simple.



So let me ask you something.

Do you feel it was justified for a fatwa on Salman Rushdie?

Because that is the same argument you are making here. 

The only difference being it is someone you dislike, and I dislike him too, but he should still have the right to state his views.

Stating one's views, no matter how offensive, is not an excuse to violently react to those views.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 8:03:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		No I do not feel it was justified....neither do I feel these killings were justified.You are still missing the point.Rushdie was exercising his art,his livelihood in writing his book,Are you now claiming some sort of equivalency between his writings and this moron putting a match to a book?
Because I don't...and never will.


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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/4/2011 8:12:22 PM   
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You are still missing the point.

You're not doing bad yourself. Follow me closely here...

Jones burns Quran => no publicity, nothing happens => Karzai shoves it in their face => riots and mayhem

Thank you, carry on.

K.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/5/2011 6:05:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		You want to know why this was covered up by media. I will give you one
How about that this man was violating the Human rights & violating the UN 36/55 rule on the National TV & radio, & nobody cares about it.
That actually in an international law, it was broken in Florida… who cares it’s just a book right?
What about the Law?
A man goes on the Media & does something he knows that is wrong & he does it anyway just because he can…& it’s the Land of the free…

The freedom stops when you attack others by it…
If he Claims to have the Message Of peace, & he does that act.... well that is not peace message does it?
That was a message of hate, I know Christians, I have lived with them, and I was medically treated by them, Monks, Sisters & blessed by Fathers.
& that hated Message was delivered successfully, thanks to the “Free Speech & Free Media”.

If it’s ok for the preacher to act that act & goes without punished, the people in the street will know now that it’s ok to attack Muslims in their street, because they will go without punishment as well.

PS: To be a Muslim, a true or good Muslim, you have to believe & respect all of the “heavens books” or the “Holy Bible & the Torah or even The Psalms”.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/5/2011 7:20:16 AM   
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You are still missing the point.

You're not doing bad yourself. Follow me closely here...

Jones burns Quran => no publicity, nothing happens => Karzai shoves it in their face => riots and mayhem

Thank you, carry on.

K.
No need to "follow you closely" as you said...there is nothing in your post that is all that complex .Simplicity seems to be your forte,so I will try to keep this simple for you...If step one doesn't happen (Jones burning the Koran) all steps following must by necessity be altered.
Did you get that ?...or shall I draw a diagram?


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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/5/2011 9:01:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		And more to the point, would Jones have burned any Qurans if he'd known in advance that he wouldn't have got any publicity? The fuck the attention seeking little tosspot would have.

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RE: Why is the Quran Buring News? - 4/5/2011 11:10:03 AM   
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If step one doesn't happen (Jones burning the Koran)...

The fact remains that while everyone is climbing all over that asshole in Florida, indications are that it would have been a non-event if fucking Karzai hadn't decided to put it up in neon lights. Can ya spare a little tar for him?

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