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ORIGINAL: Brain

I don't think Trump's that bad but I'm hardly a Tea party person except for being a fiscal conservative. I like cutting spending but I would start with the defense budget not family planning.


Fox News Poll Reveals That Obama Would Trounce Donald Trump

A majority of Republicans are dreading the 2012 campaign (51%), and those over age 55 (56%), and those Republicans over age 65 (57%) are dreading it most of all. The looming presence of the Obama Democrats can be seen in the fact 52% of non-whites, and 53% of moderates said that they were looking forward to the 2012 campaign. The Tea Party was the only Republican supporting group who had more respondents looking forward to 2012 than dreading it (49%-42%).

Simply put, Donald Trump can’t beat Obama. He would not only lose, but he would lose badly. I think the right’s infatuation with Donald Trump is a sign of their complete desperation. Supporters of the Republican Party are frantically looking everywhere for candidate who can mount a serious challenge to President Obama. Trump’s standing in the polls can be attributed this desperation and Fox News’ support of him. Donald Trump would be humiliated by Obama in the general election, but what does it say about the strength of the potential 2012 GOP field when two of its top four candidates are a reality TV star, and a washed up quitter of a former governor who has managed to turn herself into the most hated politician in America?

The reason a majority of Republicans are dreading the 2012 campaign is that they can see the writing on the wall. Unless they find a miracle candidate, they are probably going to lose, and lose badly to Obama.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-donald-trump-poll

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Obama Virtually Tied With Generic Republican Candidate In 2012: POLL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/11/obama-virtually-tied-with_n_458631.html

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


It all remains to be seen

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Obama Virtually Tied With Generic Republican Candidate In 2012: POLL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/11/obama-virtually-tied-with_n_458631.html

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Uhh......the topic isn't about a generic Republican candidate, it's about a match up between Trump and Obama.

Don't bother to thank me.  I just have this generous, charitable nature and I feel an obligation to help you stay on-topic.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The point is, things are dynamic, very fluid... nothing is predetermined. I do know that Obama has pissed away a lot of his base though, the true antiwar believers and the gays, those who believed his various lies about bringing the deficit under control or closing Gitmo etc.

And I also know that many of the things that Donald Trump is saying resonate with a lot of people. Not everything, but he is a unique character, a Washington outsider with a real shot at upsetting the status quo, which thats how Obama originally presented himself.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The point is, things are dynamic, very fluid... nothing is predetermined. I do know that Obama has pissed away a lot of his base though, the true antiwar believers and the gays, those who believed his various lies about bringing the deficit under control or closing Gitmo etc.

And I also know that many of the things that Donald Trump is saying resonate with a lot of people. Not everything, but he is a unique character, a Washington outsider with a real shot at upsetting the status quo, which thats how Obama originally presented himself.

The point is the polls show Obama far in front of Trump as well as Palin.

So who is this mysterious candidate who is going to emerge based on your generic poll?

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
The point is, things are dynamic, very fluid... nothing is predetermined. I do know that Obama has pissed away a lot of his base though, the true antiwar believers and the gays, those who believed his various lies about bringing the deficit under control or closing Gitmo etc.

And I also know that many of the things that Donald Trump is saying resonate with a lot of people. Not everything, but he is a unique character, a Washington outsider with a real shot at upsetting the status quo, which thats how Obama originally presented himself.

The point is the polls show Obama far in front of Trump as well as Palin.

So who is this mysterious candidate who is going to emerge based on your generic poll?

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

"Tough choices" my ass. Whatever slim chance this gutless bastard had of getting my vote in 2012 just exploded in flames, and I swear to god there is absolutely zero chance I will vote for him again. He is completely ignoring every single one of the bold and insightful recommendations of the bipartisan budget commission he personally appointed last year, because he doesn't have the balls to do the right thing if he thinks it will piss people off.

I'm finally ashamed to admit I voted for this empty suit.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Well,everyone save you and sailor-boy [:)]

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Ok got it Mike,
TDP has always been unhappy with Obama, since before the election in 2008 so its hardly something new
And he will always have my respect. Even when I disagree with him