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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 7:33:28 AM   
LadyMorgynn


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Status: offline 		Nope, add me to the list!  I have a brother and sister Maine-Coon mix pair rescued from Katrina (but also clearly abused) living in my spare bedroom, and a local rescued Maine Coon who's leaving for his Forever Mom in Atlanta on Saturday.  I also have 2 rescue ferrets in a big cage in my living room.  I'll probably have the Katrina pair for the rest of their (or my) natural life, because they are NOT coming around very quickly (at all), and nowhere near the point where we could find them homes.  I swear, I have trapped and tamed feral cats more easily than these 2 poor things.  They've been with me 5 months now, and I can rarely get close enough to pet them for a moment... at least, without chasing them around the room, which kind of negates the whole point of petting them.  I've started playing audiobooks for them.  They didn't seem to like Jim Dale's voice (Harry Potter) but were very relaxed when I played them "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and Liam Neeson narrating "How the Irish Saved Civilization."  Next I'm going to try them on John Edwards "How to Develop Your Psychic Potential," as he has a nice, calm speaking voice.  Plus I go sit in with them and talk to them and read to them.  They may not be socialized, but they're certainly going to be the most educated cats in the South! LOL!

Plus I have my own 3 cats :)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Glad to know I am not the only one that feels like I do about my rescued furry babies.


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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 8:15:23 AM   
DiannaVesta


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Status: offline 		I think animals like music better. I like to play indian flute. You can hear it drift across the whole farm at times. Then light a big ole log to smolder.

I'm not liking ferrets I hope I never have to take care of any.


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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 9:16:13 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		When I can see my newest rescue is getting stressed I always play music. Either the classical station on the radio if I am going to be gone or a CD of celtic music, classical, or something else really mellow and calming like that. Thank goodness I have a very eclectic taste in music. I doubt Aerosmith would be quite so calming....

Dianna, that vision of the flute and smouldering fire even calmed ME! Sounds like pure heaven.


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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 9:33:31 AM   
DiannaVesta


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You know I placed an ad for an experienced farm worker & this guy answered. After talking I asked him over for an interview. He brought his wife and daughter. They were lovely people. We skirted around a few topics, you know how it is, and I got the impression they were pagan. Today he is working in the garden and I’m thinking this boy is definitely submissive and his wife dominant.


  Lol- but you know its probably just wishful thinking. I’m been in the woods too damn long!

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 11:38:04 AM   
LadyMorgynn


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Status: offline 		Ohmigosh, ferrets are FUNNY!  Like having your own personal barrel of laughs!  Very interactive too :)  And of course you wouldn't have to take care of any... just have your slave do it! ;)

Re music vs. voice... I can't close myself in with the rescue cats constantly, and I want them to get accustomed to the human voice in a non-threatening environment.  That is... trying to replace any negative association to the human voice.  This is the reason I play the audiobooks when I can't be with them myself.

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta
I think animals like music better. I like to play indian flute. You can hear it drift across the whole farm at times. Then light a big ole log to smolder.

I'm not liking ferrets I hope I never have to take care of any.



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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 3:34:46 PM   
HayaSierra


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Status: offline 		Greetings,

First of all Happy Birthday, and good luck with your Household. I really like hearing about how you Ladies have made these things work, and it gives me a hopeful feeling about my own endeavors. As for the farming and caring for Animals, considering I'm setting up my household in Kansas, this will be a large part of it in the future -- so I for one would enjoy seeing that forum that you describe, espcially if those slaves who are to tend the gardens and animals would be welcome to discussion as well. 




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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 3:57:20 PM   
DiannaVesta


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ORIGINAL: HayaSierra

Greetings,

First of all Happy Birthday, and good luck with your Household. I really like hearing about how you Ladies have made these things work, and it gives me a hopeful feeling about my own endeavors. As for the farming and caring for Animals, considering I'm setting up my household in Kansas, this will be a large part of it in the future -- so I for one would enjoy seeing that forum that you describe, espcially if those slaves who are to tend the gardens and animals would be welcome to discussion as well. 





Thank you!

Yes, of course slaves will be allowed but they must mind their p's and q's. Trust me we're going to be herding them in like crazy, setting the rules and teaching them the proper way to serve a dominant woman. Anyone who knows me knows that when it comes to that I have very strict guidelines.


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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 8:47:04 PM   
HayaSierra


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Status: offline 		Greetings DiannaVesta,

Perhaps once you get it going (the forums) and after I get my own Household more into the physical over the fall and winter, and you have a little free time too, perhaps we can talk a bit more about it all.  I love the ideas I have heard so far,, and have a few of my own that I will be persuing  in the future, but I'm never afraid to do a little collaboration with someone who knows their stuff well.  And I can tell you know your stuff by the way you describe your set-up :).

And yes, I like strict guidelines, I tend to be strict as well. When I didn't find the rules and protocol I wanted I sat down with my Beloved and created our own from scratch. It's been a difficult road, but it has been worth every ounce of effort to realise this potential we've got over here :D.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/11/2006 8:49:14 PM   
MisPandora


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Status: offline 		Dianna,

I'm sorry that you had this experience.  It's come to the point where I've learned to give slaves only the menial things to do.  Things I wish done correctly or that are of importance (animals are obviously one of them), I gladly pay a professionak to handle.  Perhaps these fellows believe that they will gain more attention from doing a bad job, or that they'll somehow win your ministrations with just a so-so job.....but I don't enjoy that sort of thing nor do I have time for it.  I can't even get them to write a proper email, because they're too damn focused on what they want and getting it on their terms.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/12/2006 5:15:40 AM   
littlesarbonn


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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

Dianna,

I'm sorry that you had this experience.  It's come to the point where I've learned to give slaves only the menial things to do.  Things I wish done correctly or that are of importance (animals are obviously one of them), I gladly pay a professionak to handle.  Perhaps these fellows believe that they will gain more attention from doing a bad job, or that they'll somehow win your ministrations with just a so-so job.....but I don't enjoy that sort of thing nor do I have time for it.  I can't even get them to write a proper email, because they're too damn focused on what they want and getting it on their terms.


I personally believe there's something else happening in these types of cases, and I believe it has more to do with unrealistic expectations from people who haven't worked their way up to achieving a special place doing important things. When I was first being courted (or courting) a femdom I very much wanted to serve, she put me through massive amounts of work for her in what I thought was going to be what she wanted from me from that point on. I did so much grunt work that seemed so bizarre, yet I did it because I just wanted to make her happy. This went on for three years. She was a well known pro dominant, so I was just feeling at the time that I was lucky to even be in her presence without actually being one of her customers. I figured it wouldn't get any better than it was, and I was going to do my best to make sure that I didn't do anything to screw it up.

During this time, she engaged a number of wannabe house slaves who were customers attempting to become real slaves, and often she would have them doing a lot of the harder jobs I really felt as her slave I should be required to do, but I kept my mouth shut because like I said, I was just overjoyed to be where I was. One day, she was running a new "houseslave" through his motions when there was this huge commotion involving a couple of the women that worked in the house, and a lot of slamming of doors. Then she showed up at the door where I had been dusting one of the rooms during a task she started me off earlier in the day as "dust the entire second floor, and make sure NOTHING is left undusted" which had been a directive hours ago as she left me alone and continued on with sessions. She told me to meet her in the lower dungeon room immediately. I honestly thought I had screwed something up, but had no idea what.

In the basement, she told me she was making me her personal slave, and that day, my entire life changed. I was now given a real position in her daily routine, and the "chores" she had for me seemed a lot more important from that point on. What I discovered was that she had finally blown a gasket at yet another wannabe houseslave that was doing it for personal reasons, and she realized she had the real thing working upstairs, who had been serving her for three years already. I had passed her tests, which I never treated as tests, but accepted as the way things were meant to me.

That's what I perceive to be the problem. Too many women are wanting to jump in, expecting post-3 year testing, and being disappointed when the person doesn't prove to be what they expected. People don't understand this, and I'll say it one last time and then shut up about it: Real slavery involving a true desire to serve is an EXTREME rarity. Yet everyone seems to think it's easy to find. And here's the kicker because it's been the one factor that has never failed to amaze me: Once a woman finds what she believes to be the perfect slave, she then starts to believe ANYONE can be that kind of slave, and quite often she'll derail the original relationshp in hopes of achieving the same thing with someone who is looks hotter, is richer, or appears better in some other way. And then they're constantly shocked (no matter HOW MUCH experience they have) that the second case didn't work out well and then wonder why the first case won't come back after she dumped him or her.

It's very easy to fall into this trap, even knowing about it. But it happens constantly and I no longer intend to commiserate with people about it.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/12/2006 7:31:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

That's what I perceive to be the problem. Too many women are wanting to jump in, expecting post-3 year testing, and being disappointed when the person doesn't prove to be what they expected. People don't understand this, and I'll say it one last time and then shut up about it: Real slavery involving a true desire to serve is an EXTREME rarity. Yet everyone seems to think it's easy to find. And here's the kicker because it's been the one factor that has never failed to amaze me: Once a woman finds what she believes to be the perfect slave, she then starts to believe ANYONE can be that kind of slave, and quite often she'll derail the original relationshp in hopes of achieving the same thing with someone who is looks hotter, is richer, or appears better in some other way. And then they're constantly shocked (no matter HOW MUCH experience they have) that the second case didn't work out well and then wonder why the first case won't come back after she dumped him or her.

It's very easy to fall into this trap, even knowing about it. But it happens constantly and I no longer intend to commiserate with people about it.



I think you are correct, littlesarbonn, that many dominants, male or female, do believe that when someone says "I want to be just your slave and serve in any way" that this is true.

But there is also fault here on the side of the person who makes that offer.

Both people are buying into a porn image of what consensual or erotic slavery is and forgetting that it is very hard work on both sides and that it takes time, a lot of it, for both people to prove their worthiness. People will lie to achieve that fantasy and put up with a lot they probably shouldn't to maintain that fantasy.

It hurts a lot when the fantasy is revealed to be unachieveable with that person.

I have this fantasy of a large household with slaves in particular roles but for right now there is just Fox who has to serve as a well-rounded slave. Its a nice fantasy and I've played out different parts of it when I've had more than one slave and submissive.

For myself, I have discovered through trial and error that I'd rather pay someone to do some of the mundane stuff or just do it myself than look for someone who could be happy just doing that. For example, I could advert for a garden/lawn slave but given past experiences I'd rather pay my professional gardner and a lawn care service and not have to hassle with misrepresented expectations or lies. And if that gets too expensive, we can just do it ourselves. Besides, I'm contributing to the economy then.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/12/2006 8:00:01 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		Interesting thoughts ladies.....brings to mind a local boy that emailed me here earlier this week. He is 27, understands I have zero interest in him sexually yet is adamant he really really wants to serve. He has been extremely polite and SEEMS sincere. This is the first time I have had my interest piqued in this manner. I told him that I would give it some consideration and would probably have a few questions for him. I have a long deepseated distrust of men that has always kept me from even thinking about a man serving me, assumed that at some point they would expect some sexual gratification and that is not at all my interest. My first kneejerk reaction has always been to tell them to bugger off. For some reason the notes he has written have been different and I did not want to be rude and dismissive if he is indeed sincere. I have alot of thinking to do on this one. Ultimately I would not mind at least giving him a chance to prove himself and then perhaps introduce him to one of the ladies on here that is looking for something more permanent than I would. I doubt he wants a lifetime of celibacy!!! However I sure could use a little help around the farm right now.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/12/2006 8:34:52 AM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		Take your time and if you feel comfortable let him try things out. Don't get dependent on him in any way and be aware of what he does. You all ready know this, but even if he says he doesn't need anything being told "good job" if he does one will be appreciated.

We don't know unless we try, right?

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/12/2006 8:42:28 AM   
SweetDommes


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Ultimately I would not mind at least giving him a chance to prove himself and then perhaps introduce him to one of the ladies on here that is looking for something more permanent than I would. I doubt he wants a lifetime of celibacy!!! However I sure could use a little help around the farm right now.


Heh, feel free to send him our way after you teach him how to properly care for a garden LOL

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/12/2006 2:03:16 PM   
MarinaBlack


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Status: offline 		A very happy belated birthday to you!

I'm very sorry to hear of your disappoinments with your sub. So many of these guys just wond do what they say or say what they mean.

That said, I would very much like for you to contact me when you site is up.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/13/2006 5:48:05 PM   
MsDominiquenz


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Status: offline 		Ive been watching this thread, and its fantastic.
Woodsmoke and full moons and flutes and happy animals..
I love this lifestyle, and people fit in where they can..its important to me that this place runs well and everybody/thing that is here is the best that they can be.
Sure, running a place with space, gardens, animals and a professional and  lifestyle is busy, and the more the merrier to get things done.
The 24/7 slave is wonderful at everything.. he should be after 7 yrs !!!! :)
The others visit wearing many different hats, from client to pet to coffee..from Gathering to personal, to tyre kickers.

At the end of the day, everyone contributes in many ways to the lifestyle of the Mistress/Goddess and thats what its all about, because then they can enjoy what they helped to create, and they get the level of involvement they can manage.
Im sitting here today smiling at this past week, because I have had lots around and busy times, but a few days with an online pet visiting from OS was lovely (first time face to face) and he became a part of things here, not as a client but as a pet, so he was a handy tool to have around, swinging on the gate to let folk in..keeping the sink clean..being a Dungeon toy for a new Domina and myself, a crash course on animal management, and training in how to please me in various ways.
I have some shockers land here if I allow them to, they have been sent away..and also some who 'get it' and want to just camp n the backyard when its time to go.  lol
Im not searching for the 'one', Im offering an opportunity to some.

Its about standards and rules, and I keep mine solid.

There is a thread here about a FemDom online community..I hope it happens as Dominas in contact that are in the lifestyle, can only be a good thing, especially as our lives can be so similar.

*Out to see if the slave has bought the FemDom piggy in from Her walk to the apple tree*







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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/13/2006 7:03:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Goddess Daina Vesta     Another belated birthday wish. You didn't seem to receive many from subs, which I would have thought there would have been.I would like to, if I may, ASK a question! Was the boy you released, given an occasional opportunity "to melt to his knees at your feet in total surrender" to worship and adore you??? Possibly giving him tremendous incentive to be more devoted to his chores. Just Curious here. I have learned so much in the boards, but still have a ways to go. You probably recognze that quote. Hope you find many boys to work for you.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/13/2006 9:31:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

Nope, add me to the list!  I have a brother and sister Maine-Coon mix pair rescued from Katrina (but also clearly abused) living in my spare bedroom, and a local rescued Maine Coon who's leaving for his Forever Mom in Atlanta on Saturday.  I also have 2 rescue ferrets in a big cage in my living room.  I'll probably have the Katrina pair for the rest of their (or my) natural life, because they are NOT coming around very quickly (at all), and nowhere near the point where we could find them homes.  I swear, I have trapped and tamed feral cats more easily than these 2 poor things.  They've been with me 5 months now, and I can rarely get close enough to pet them for a moment... at least, without chasing them around the room, which kind of negates the whole point of petting them.  I've started playing audiobooks for them.  They didn't seem to like Jim Dale's voice (Harry Potter) but were very relaxed when I played them "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and Liam Neeson narrating "How the Irish Saved Civilization."  Next I'm going to try them on John Edwards "How to Develop Your Psychic Potential," as he has a nice, calm speaking voice.  Plus I go sit in with them and talk to them and read to them.  They may not be socialized, but they're certainly going to be the most educated cats in the South! LOL!

Plus I have my own 3 cats :)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Glad to know I am not the only one that feels like I do about my rescued furry babies.



Personally I find talk radio good for what you're trying. the voice is normally monotone and not very frightening...unless you actually understand what they're talking about ....conservatives EEEK!! I switch this with frequent doses of classical music. Usually in the evenings.
There is also an herbal concoction called rescue remedy that I've recently had some success with. Got another little white male poodle that had been bred almost to death and tortured. I was in tears when the behaviorist said that the reason he puts all 4 legs straight out when you pick him up was so that he could "fall right" when thrown. Killed me that something like that had happened so frequently that it's now assumed...grrr some people.
Finding it really kind of scary how many other Dommes are into farming and rescue. Gotta love the internet.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/14/2006 2:09:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I did not mean to rant, but, I take offense to some of the women, bashing men, for not caring about animals as much as women. I noticed many of you are downstreamers. Come to Cowboy country! There are many who care about animals as much as anybody, male or female. They also do  all of the outside hard work, and still help the 'little woman' inside. And none of the are even submissive! Well not in pubic anyway. I can introduce you to a few, who probably care more for their animals than for their wives.Again you Dominas are judging all of us by the actions of one. And Goddess DiannaVesta, of all people on cm, I cannot believe you would not have many waiting to be a farm boy for you, perhaps if you would just let us clean the dirt off your boots. As a sub/slave, I mean no disrespect for the Dominas, but they do not care more for animals than some of us men do.BTW. My horse loves dance and electronic music.

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RE: Life on the Farm - 5/14/2006 4:54:43 AM   
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I do not believe any of us said ALL men. I base my opinions and statements purely on my experience. I have seen very very few women abuse an animal. After many years around boarding stables,farms, ranches, rodeos, horse shows, 4-H fair kids......I have seen far too many males of this human species treat an animal as nothing more than an object. An object, that if not doing exactly what said male thinks it should do, recieves physically abusive treatment rather than observation as to WHY the animal is acting the way it is and taking measures to make the animal more comfortable so that it can do what is being asked of it. Because of what I have seen my distrust of men around my furry babies runs high. I am NOT saying that there are no men that love and nurture the animals in their care, I am saying that based on my experience it is far more rare.

As for having someone serve me that requires time drooling over my dirty boots to serve properly.......that one needs to rethink what serving is. In my house, if you are here to serve, that means doing exactly what I want, not what you think you need to serve with motivation. IF I decided I want my boots cleaned while on my feet (seems a silly concept to me as, if they were still on my feet they would just get dirty again...) THEN it would be done. However, IF I do not require it then it will not happen and said servant will still do their job thoroughly and damn happily or I will find someone else to do it.

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