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SSBBWPam -> Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 2:10:41 PM)

Especially cucks. It seems like many sub men want me to force them to crossdress or do bi stuff. Now, I am way into forced bi. But the forced bi kinda loses its appeal when it is not forced but begged for.

So, what do you think? is there a way to post a poll on here?



IrishMist -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 2:13:45 PM)

Some submissive men are gay, some of those who are gay are still in the closet; BUT, some submissive men are NOT gay.



SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 2:19:09 PM)

Well, I am running into the really, really swishy ones. LOL. But, thanks, of course I knew that. I guess I am just lamenting the absence of a man's man in my life. 



Lucylastic -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 2:36:51 PM)

Let me put this another way
Are all women stupid?




DarkSteven -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 2:52:03 PM)

Um, "swishy" in my mind equates to how masculine/feminine a man comes across as.  It doesn't necessarily refer to orientation.

Feel free to check out LanceHughes if you want an example of a masculine gay man.  A Dominant one, yet.



myotherself -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 2:56:55 PM)

to add to Stevie's post, try checking out Peonforher and LPslittleclip if you want to see some seriously masculine submissive men.




BKSir -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 2:59:52 PM)

Swishy? LOL! I'm about as "swishy" as your average cinderblock, that has nothing to do with sub/dom/sexual orientation. And no, I can certainly say that not all sub men are gay. Just as all dominant women are not lesbians. Although, admittedly, there are a few sub males whom I wish WERE gay... boy howdy do I wish they were. >.> Erm... yeah, we'll just leave it at that.



porcelaine -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:01:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam

So, what do you think? is there a way to post a poll on here?


Greetings,

i can't possibly fathom that a person of your years wouldn't recognize the gross generalization made and the realities that there are definite exceptions to that statement. At least, i would hope that's the case. As for submissive men, i can name one that i would eagerly serve if he was on the other side of the paddle. His intelligence, poise, and attributes make him a very fine man and excellent catch for the woman that owns him. Perhaps your stereotypical thinking prevents you from encountering the same.

ETA: And if by the slim chance that he was gay, which he's not. That wouldn't minimize anything i've stated. He's still hella sexy nonetheless (and you are darling xx).

Namaste,

~porcelaine



isoLadyOwner -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:15:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam

Especially cucks. It seems like many sub men want me to force them to crossdress or do bi stuff. Now, I am way into forced bi. But the forced bi kinda loses its appeal when it is not forced but begged for.

So, what do you think? is there a way to post a poll on here?



Since these sub guys seem to be telling you what they want you to do for them its possible you're not communicating with real submissives as opposed to "do me" subs.

A genuine sub male for whom bisexuality is a hard limit will not respond to a woman who wants a guy for 'forced" bi.

As far as the "swishy" comments, the OP sound like a confused homophobic troll.



Lockit -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:19:14 PM)

Pam, Pam, Pam... I was thinking my post would take a very different route... but after listening to a couple of your journals and reading your profile, I find I have to go another direction. You are sending off some very mixed signals and one of your journal entries, I couldn't even finish. What the hell do you mean you need your cuck to be there when you are with a woman because he may need to get her out of there? God lord woman... you must be in control of yourself in my opinion.

Your wording of things, how you interpret things and communicate is a mix of I don't know what the fuck and I am going to blame you for the confusion. You say things that make one think you know what's going on and in the next breath... you haven't a clue.

Just my take on it all and I am left shaking my head... wtf? The problem isn't with the boys darlin.



BKSir -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:27:27 PM)

Lockit... have I mentioned today that I love you?



SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:42:33 PM)

I don't need my cuck to be with me any time...except to torture him with my activities right in front of him. Oh dear good god. I do not think my question was at all out of left field. Let me put it even more NON PC and baldly...I think many cucks choose this path because they are closet gays. There. Now flame that.



SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:46:18 PM)

There is no right or wrong way for me to practice my sex life. Nor is there a right or wrong way to practice anyone's sex life. But I do get to choose between closet gays, bisexuals and straight men. I choose the latter two, thank you.



porcelaine -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:46:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam

I think many cucks choose this path because they are closet gays. There. Now flame that.


So what's your rationalization for female cucks? Are we traveling the same line of thought?

Namaste,

~porcelaine



SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:47:35 PM)

You know, I don't know. I haven't been interviewing them. 



SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:53:27 PM)

You know. I thought I would like to join the online community. Was wondering about a few things and thought I would look around and ask some questions. But if the wolfpack descends like this on newbie who wanders in here like this and asks something....then I guess I will take my troll-like ignorance somewhere else.

Thanks for the schooling. Not the ignorant comments on my personal sexuality. Not the nasty name calling. Not the arrogant tone. Not the pack mentality. But the schooling...this place ain't nice. That's what I learned.



Lockit -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:55:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam

I don't need my cuck to be with me any time...except to torture him with my activities right in front of him. Oh dear good god. I do not think my question was at all out of left field. Let me put it even more NON PC and baldly...I think many cucks choose this path because they are closet gays. There. Now flame that.


If that is so, you might want to delete that voice journal on your second page. You said you needed him there when you are with a woman because you get rough and he might need to take her away. Your question might not have been that bad, worded differently... even if not pc correct of course, because I don't believe we need to be pc correct, but.... BUT... it was everything you said around everything else that distorted things.

If you have been interviewing these guys... wouldn't you have a bit of a grasp on it all? When I was doing research for some story lines, at the time, about three years ago, the biggest fantasy of married men was watching their wife do another man. I didn't see any mention of swishy or gay anything. It was all about their wife and them.

You want to know why you get all the swishy guys? Read your damn profile! lol



PetiteOralSub -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 3:58:51 PM)

I'm in concurrence here. I clicked on the thread becuase I was so shocked by the question, assumed it was a troll peaking in trying to get some attention.
Role and orientation are two different aspects of a person's being.



SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 4:04:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

quote:

ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam

I don't need my cuck to be with me any time...except to torture him with my activities right in front of him. Oh dear good god. I do not think my question was at all out of left field. Let me put it even more NON PC and baldly...I think many cucks choose this path because they are closet gays. There. Now flame that.


If that is so, you might want to delete that voice journal on your second page. You said you needed him there when you are with a woman because you get rough and he might need to take her away. Your question might not have been that bad, worded differently... even if not pc correct of course, because I don't believe we need to be pc correct, but.... BUT... it was everything you said around everything else that distorted things.

If you have been interviewing these guys... wouldn't you have a bit of a grasp on it all? When I was doing research for some story lines, at the time, about three years ago, the biggest fantasy of married men was watching their wife do another man. I didn't see any mention of swishy or gay anything. It was all about their wife and them.

You want to know why you get all the swishy guys? Read your damn profile! lol



I am not going to delete an audio journal that has a FANTASY in it. Have you lost your mind?



Lucylastic -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 4:07:27 PM)

I used to say..There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers, and then I came here.
Now after five years people who ask questions like you did in your title, get little response from me because its not true in any avenue in life why would it be the same within the BDSM scenario.
And no cuck men arent all gay either, unless thats the way you want  it, he likes it and your partner likes it, then who cares....
You might need a thicker skin



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