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beinbluesbeech -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 5:53:15 PM)
Why not just take people as individuals? Subs are not cloned. Perhaps the people you are talking about begging, are doing that to please you? If "subs" are not there to please the Dom, then they are not subs. Sounds like you are asking to poll subs to find out if they are just deceptive. I could be wrong. Respectfully, beinbluesbeech

DesFIP -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 5:53:29 PM)
Some sub males are straight but get off on humiliation. Some are bi and some are gay. But the gay ones wouldn't be interested in a woman. However the op appears to be terminally closed minded. On the good side, any sub who reads this thread will know at once not to contact her.

SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 6:07:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD In answer to the OP, no, sub men are not just closet gays. Some may be, but not all. Polls can be posted in the "Polls and Other Random Stupidity" forum. The point is, generalization generally doesn't have a home here, within the kink community. No, but calling my sexual fantasies wrong or telling me to erase my audio JOURNALS. Journals. There is room for that here? Calling me fat? Emailing me and calling a fat nasty whore? I mean...I been called these things before, but c'mon. No one here knows me well enough for those endearments.

SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 6:09:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Some sub males are straight but get off on humiliation. Some are bi and some are gay. But the gay ones wouldn't be interested in a woman. However the op appears to be terminally closed minded. On the good side, any sub who reads this thread will know at once not to contact her. Wow. On the basis of half a dozen sentences you have already deemed me terminal and unworthy of having a sub contact me. Perhaps even dangerous. Talk about generalizing. You guys are just da bomb. Love it. I wish I could say that you guys have been fun. But you aren't.

RedMagic1 -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 6:13:17 PM)
All dominants are closet straights. That is why men hit on the les dommes.

hausboy -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 6:26:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam No, but calling my sexual fantasies wrong or telling me to erase my audio JOURNALS. Journals. There is room for that here? Calling me fat? Emailing me and calling a fat nasty whore? I mean...I been called these things before, but c'mon. No one here knows me well enough for those endearments. Well, there's no excuse for that, Pam. I"m sorry you had that experience--there are folks on here who generally hate...well...everybody....and take any opportunity they can to send hatemail to someone else so that they can feel better about themselves. Just follow me: hide, block and delete -- your three best friends on CM. Stick around and I promise you'll find a few folks that you might come to call friends. And who knows--every now and then we do get a positive thread from someone who finds their "one and only" (or one of poly) on here-- until then-- good luck!

SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 6:43:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hausboy quote: ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam No, but calling my sexual fantasies wrong or telling me to erase my audio JOURNALS. Journals. There is room for that here? Calling me fat? Emailing me and calling a fat nasty whore? I mean...I been called these things before, but c'mon. No one here knows me well enough for those endearments. Well, there's no excuse for that, Pam. I"m sorry you had that experience--there are folks on here who generally hate...well...everybody....and take any opportunity they can to send hatemail to someone else so that they can feel better about themselves. Just follow me: hide, block and delete -- your three best friends on CM. Stick around and I promise you'll find a few folks that you might come to call friends. And who knows--every now and then we do get a positive thread from someone who finds their "one and only" (or one of poly) on here-- until then-- good luck! Wow. Thanks for that. I got a nice email too. But I think I need to back away from all this right now. My latest sub-prospect JUST broke up with me via email. I am reeling right now. Well. Next....

Lockit -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 6:58:26 PM)
Pam, my original intent was to try to smooth a few things out and maybe offer some opinion on gender type things and other issues. Then I read your profile and listened to some of your journal entries. You talk about being interested in cucks and sissies. You are asking for them. Then you are upset that they contact and beg and what you really want to do is force a man that may not be a cuck or a sissy into things. That is a mixed message. I won’t go into other things I thought were a mixed message as it isn’t important at this point. You can’t call for sissies and then get mad because they weren’t some sort of stud muffin that you could force to be bi or dress. If you said I want to force men who do not like this or that, into doing this or that, there would be no question of what you wanted. Your introduction to the journal entry you say was a fantasy… said this is what a cuck could expect from you basically. I had no idea you considered it a fantasy. I didn’t say to delete a journal entry for any other reason than because you said in a post that you only needed your cuck there to torture with what you were doing and yet… the journal entry said something else. How was I or anyone else for that matter to know the difference without knowing it was a fantasy. While a cuck relationship can be filled with many fantasies, I don’t consider the relationship or expectations to be a fantasy. So when you said in a post the opposite of what you said in your entry… I said, maybe you need to delete that journal entry then. Once again thinking you were saying two different things and sending mixed messages. When things aren’t communicated effectively or thoroughly, confusion takes root and it looked like there was a bit of confusion and I saw it coming from you and you pointing a finger at all the swishy guys not being what you wanted and thinking they were gay. Thus, the many misunderstandings here.

SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 7:28:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit Pam, my original intent was to try to smooth a few things out and maybe offer some opinion on gender type things and other issues. Then I read your profile and listened to some of your journal entries. You talk about being interested in cucks and sissies. You are asking for them. Then you are upset that they contact and beg and what you really want to do is force a man that may not be a cuck or a sissy into things. That is a mixed message. I won’t go into other things I thought were a mixed message as it isn’t important at this point. You can’t call for sissies and then get mad because they weren’t some sort of stud muffin that you could force to be bi or dress. If you said I want to force men who do not like this or that, into doing this or that, there would be no question of what you wanted. Your introduction to the journal entry you say was a fantasy… said this is what a cuck could expect from you basically. I had no idea you considered it a fantasy. I didn’t say to delete a journal entry for any other reason than because you said in a post that you only needed your cuck there to torture with what you were doing and yet… the journal entry said something else. How was I or anyone else for that matter to know the difference without knowing it was a fantasy. While a cuck relationship can be filled with many fantasies, I don’t consider the relationship or expectations to be a fantasy. So when you said in a post the opposite of what you said in your entry… I said, maybe you need to delete that journal entry then. Once again thinking you were saying two different things and sending mixed messages. When things aren’t communicated effectively or thoroughly, confusion takes root and it looked like there was a bit of confusion and I saw it coming from you and you pointing a finger at all the swishy guys not being what you wanted and thinking they were gay. Thus, the many misunderstandings here. I am just fine with the messages I am sending out. Are you my intended audience? You interested in being my cuck?

Lockit -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 7:32:34 PM)
No, but I am not the one that came to ask a question the way you did. I tried to explain where I was coming from. I tired to smooth things out between us. I guess that isn't what's going to happen.

SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 7:39:08 PM)
quote: Home Login My Profile My Subscription My Forums Search Calendars Ticket List Log Out If gay is not a dirty word, then why is asking if someone is gay OR COULD POSSIBLY BE GAY such a huge insulting slap in the face?

Lockit -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 7:42:47 PM)
This did. quote: ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam Well, I am running into the really, really swishy ones. LOL. But, thanks, of course I knew that. I guess I am just lamenting the absence of a man's man in my life.

DarkSteven -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 7:48:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam Wow. Thanks for that. I got a nice email too. But I think I need to back away from all this right now. My latest sub-prospect JUST broke up with me via email. I am reeling right now. Well. Next.... Sorry to hear that, Pam. But I'd advise against getting emotionally invested that early. Until you meet, try to keep detached.

Lucylastic -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 7:49:00 PM)
Submissive men are just closet gays was your title Pam submissive men and women are not JUST anything! just a thought

SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 8:46:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam Wow. Thanks for that. I got a nice email too. But I think I need to back away from all this right now. My latest sub-prospect JUST broke up with me via email. I am reeling right now. Well. Next.... Sorry to hear that, Pam. But I'd advise against getting emotionally invested that early. Until you meet, try to keep detached. Okay, just to be sure... So far I have been told I do not ask questions right. I do not journal right. I do not Domme right. I do not search right. And now...what...I do not feel or think right? While I agree with the sentiment...that one should remain detached until meeting...it is not always easy to do so. There are sometimes extenuating circumstances. Background information that not everyone has. You guys are answering a bunch of questions I did not ask. Do you always have such a hard time keeping on task?

DarkSteven -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 8:48:48 PM)
Pam, I gave you friendly advice. I know it may not be easy to follow. I did not order you to do anything, nor tell you that you did not do something right. Huge difference.

RedMagic1 -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 9:00:01 PM)
quote: You guys are answering a bunch of questions I did not ask. Do you always have such a hard time keeping on task? Do you always have such a hard time recognizing when people have not consented to be in a dynamic with you? Also, do you consider needing a man in your life to be a trait that enhances your dominance?

SSBBWPam -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 9:25:53 PM)
[/quote] Do you always have such a hard time recognizing when people have not consented to be in a dynamic with you? Also, do you consider needing a man in your life to be a trait that enhances your dominance? [/quote] Who the EFF are you? I can decide when it is time to have a man in my life. I raised four children buried one was celibate for years. who the FUCK do you think you are to tell me i cannot seek out a partner? the entire world walks two by two. Whether I find one or not, will be up to the gods. But my wish to pair bond is not a sign of weakness. Jesus FUCKING CHRIST You guys are something else.

RedMagic1 -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 9:43:53 PM)
But that is not an answer. People with a burning desire to submit are attracted to strong dominants. You have the right to make all kinds of choices, but choices have consequences. If you need a man for emotional stability, which is how it appears to me, many submissive men will be turned off by that. Even vanilla guys don't like clingy. Just because you can do something does not mean you should. I know you are in the argue zone, not the listening zone, but maybe you will read this thread again tomorrow. Consider this question: what does the man you want to attract want in a partner? ... and... are you it? If you can answer that, honestly, the quality of man you attract will go up, almost overnight.

DarqueMirror -> RE: Are sub men just closet gays? (4/10/2011 9:44:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SSBBWPam quote: Do you always have such a hard time recognizing when people have not consented to be in a dynamic with you? Also, do you consider needing a man in your life to be a trait that enhances your dominance? Who the EFF are you? I can decide when it is time to have a man in my life. I raised four children buried one was celibate for years. who the FUCK do you think you are to tell me i cannot seek out a partner? the entire world walks two by two. Whether I find one or not, will be up to the gods. But my wish to pair bond is not a sign of weakness. Jesus FUCKING CHRIST You guys are something else. Wow. I've heard of people reading things into others' statements but this is just ridiculous. You even quoted a person in your reply, and then accused that very person of telling you something that was nowhere in what you quoted. Are you actually arguing with the people on this board, or the voices in your own head?

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