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Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-... - 4/10/2011 8:03:05 PM   
Marini


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Status: offline 		If you have bought gas lately, you probably realize that it seems to go up
almost every time you go to the pump.

In LA gas prices now average $4.14 per gallon.
In my neck of the woods, I wouldn't be surprised to see $4 a gallon for regular gas within 2 weeks, at the rate it's going.

CBS news reports that gas prices threaten the record high set in mid 2008.

Gas prices spike, threaten record high's

I certainly am starting to cut back on driving, and when gas hit's $4 a gallon, I will certainly cut back when possible.
The thing is, around here to catch the Metro is expensive also, and not always that convienent.

What do you think about the $4 a gallon gas that will be the norm fairly soon, and possible $5 a gallon gas in the not so near future?

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We need to get serious about finding alternative sources of fuel, making electric cars more affordable and viable choices of transportation, and/or offshore drilling real soon.

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:05:49 PM   
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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:07:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Till we actually get serious about alternative renewable energy sources....gas prices are a little like the weather.....you can bitch all you want,but it is what it is and there aint a damm thing you can do about it.


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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:14:52 PM   
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Till we actually get serious about alternative renewable energy sources....gas prices are a little like the weather.....you can bitch all you want,but it is what it is and there aint a damm thing you can do about it.



Oh I agree, but when we SOON pass the all time record highs, and head towards $5 a gallon, we might get a bit more serious about the situation.
Record high's tend to get the ball rolling faster.

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:21:52 PM   
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Till we actually get serious about alternative renewable energy sources....gas prices are a little like the weather.....you can bitch all you want,but it is what it is and there aint a damm thing you can do about it.



Oh I agree, but when we SOON pass the all time record highs, and head towards $5 a gallon, we might get a bit more serious about the situation.
Record high's tend to get the ball rolling faster.


I wish, sincerely, that I could believe we would in fact make any significant progress towards alternative fuels and methods in the next few years.

Unfortunately, humanity has a vexing tendency to ignore a problem until it becomes a disaster. 

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:22:53 PM   
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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:22:54 PM   
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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:24:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gas has long been higher in Europe.Here we tend to look at rising gas prices as a political failure,just look at the many threads started in which the main thrust is to blame the President for the most recent rise....this trend holds true no matter who is sitting in the Oval Office.


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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:32:41 PM   
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Gas has long been higher in Europe.Here we tend to look at rising gas prices as a political failure,just look at the many threads started in which the main thrust is to blame the President for the most recent rise....this trend holds true no matter who is sitting in the Oval Office.



I realize gas is higher in Europe, but I wonder if most Europeans must travel the distance most Americans do to work.
You can't compare small European countries to America, IMHO.
Maybe they do have vast numbers of people driving 1 hour to work every day, I don't know.

This has been an issue for years, most will not blame President Obama for $5 a gallon gas.
Actually, they probably will, they blame him for everything else.
It is almost a given, that gas prices will reach historic highs in AMERICA, in the next month or so.

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:39:18 PM   
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Not so much here.


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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:41:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Marini

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Gas has long been higher in Europe.Here we tend to look at rising gas prices as a political failure,just look at the many threads started in which the main thrust is to blame the President for the most recent rise....this trend holds true no matter who is sitting in the Oval Office.



I realize gas is higher in Europe, but I wonder if most Europeans must travel the distance most Americans do to work.
You can't compare small European countries to America, IMHO.
Maybe they do have vast numbers of people driving 1 hour to work every day, I don't know.

This has been an issue for years, most will not blame President Obama for $5 a gallon gas.
Actually, they probably will, they blame him for everything else.
It is almost a given, that gas prices will reach historic highs in AMERICA, in the next month or so.
No Marini,you have a point about distance...there is also the matter of personal preferences....Most Europeans drive much more economical,gas wise,vehicles.Americans tend to like their cars bigger and more powerful...hence less efficient.
Which will add to the angst as the prices climb.


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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:47:54 PM   
Marini


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Status: offline 		Why don't the powers that be, bring down the cost of electric cars, give bigger tax incentives for them, and promote them?

We could even have more of them made in the United States!

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:56:04 PM   
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Gas has long been higher in Europe.Here we tend to look at rising gas prices as a political failure,just look at the many threads started in which the main thrust is to blame the President for the most recent rise....this trend holds true no matter who is sitting in the Oval Office.



I realize gas is higher in Europe, but I wonder if most Europeans must travel the distance most Americans do to work.
You can't compare small European countries to America, IMHO.
Maybe they do have vast numbers of people driving 1 hour to work every day, I don't know.

This has been an issue for years, most will not blame President Obama for $5 a gallon gas.
Actually, they probably will, they blame him for everything else.
It is almost a given, that gas prices will reach historic highs in AMERICA, in the next month or so.
I had a month pass (Gruenkart Green Card) in Munich in August 2003. That cost 49Euros, or about $58. at the exchange rate then. I could go all over Munich, except I couldn't ride before 0800h. Annual passes are even cheaper.
http://www.mvv-muenchen.de/en/home/index.html
It's the most extensive public transportation network in the world. I loved it. I was out in the far suburbs; trains (S-bahn) came every 20 minutes. I was in downtown Munich in around 15 minutes. At one time my goal was to ride every subway in the world. I think riding in N. Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Iran would be problematic.

Premium petrol down the street is $USD3.95/gallon (about $1.05/L). I just put $20 in yesterday. I put $45 in on Feb. 8. I don't need to commute, and I combine trips. I need to check the tire pressure, and slightly over-inflate. I make a game out of seeing how seldom I need to use the brakes.


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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 8:57:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see comments on how there need to be incentives on electric cars...where does electricity come from? It is generated by gas, oil, coal, and nuclear energy for over 97% of the energy generated in the USA. If you want to see lower fuel prices which are directly linked to a healthy economy, then you must open up ANWAR and the Gulf of Mexico to drilling. You must lift the EPA restrictions on building new oil refineries in the USA and you must not take the incentive for investment in oil and gas exploration (profit) away from the oil companies by taxing the soup out of them.

You want your stupid little electric car? Fine, do not expect the rest of us to want this assinine piece of crap.

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 9:06:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for posting, HippieKinster, I thought most Europeans didn't have to drive or depend on their cars in general, as much as we do in the states.

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 9:09:03 PM   
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We need to get serious about finding alternative sources of fuel, making electric cars more affordable and viable choices of transportation,


http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=1910

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 9:11:24 PM   
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I see comments on how there need to be incentives on electric cars...where does electricity come from? It is generated by gas, oil, coal, and nuclear energy for over 97% of the energy generated in the USA. If you want to see lower fuel prices which are directly linked to a healthy economy, then you must open up ANWAR and the Gulf of Mexico to drilling. You must lift the EPA restrictions on building new oil refineries in the USA and you must not take the incentive for investment in oil and gas exploration (profit) away from the oil companies by taxing the soup out of them.

You want your stupid little electric car? Fine, do not expect the rest of us to want this assinine piece of crap.
This would be comical,if it weren't so sad.Your answer is to double down on what we know is a failed strategy?
Why ? Why tie the future to an energy source we know is finite...and we know that as a finite material the price will just continue to rise as the demand(Emerging economies) rises.
Than to top it off you suggest we should further enrich the oil companies in the form of more or continued tax incentives.Tell me something once we have decided that GE doesn't have to pay taxes,Oil Co's, need not pay taxes.....the rich should not be burdened too harshly.....who,do you figure is left?
The middle class is rapidly evaporating....and the poor....well they simply have no means to do so.
So who will,in your scenario actually pay taxes ?


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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 9:12:41 PM   
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Imagine that you have a monthly budget of $3,830.00 USD and you are currently having to borrow $1,750.00 USD each month from friends and neighbors. If you go to your household and tell the members of the house that the economy is tough and you have to make some drastic cuts and you have to get spending under control and you have decided to stop buying pay per view movies on cable so that you can balance the budget by saving $38.30 a month, how long do you think your friends and neighbors will continue to loan you money?

That is what our brilliant leaders have done, our budget for the fiscal year 2011 which runs from October 2010 to September 2011 is $3,830,000,000,000.00 and they cut $38,300,000,000.00 that leaves us borrowing still at an anual rate of $1,750,000,000,000.00 per year and the interest is over $4,000,000,000.00 per DAY! We cannot do this any longer. Give up the idea of government health care, welfare, food stamps, medicare and medicaid and social security and anything else that is not directly related to national defense, (we are going to definitely need national defense when the world realizes we are broke and comes to collect the debt) and start selling off all federal real estate that is not a necessary office building. No more yellowstone park unless the siera club wants to buy it. No more endless tracts of millions of acres in every state in the western USA, sell it off and pay the debt.

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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 9:14:19 PM   
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RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs!... - 4/10/2011 9:14:55 PM   
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We need to get serious about finding alternative sources of fuel, making electric cars more affordable and viable choices of transportation,


http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=1910


Thats a cute car, but I wouldn't feel safe in that car around here.
I drive a mid-size car now, if someone hits me in that car in the Washington area, I don't think I would have much of a chance.

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