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tazzygirl -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 11:51:36 AM)

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Thank you for being a little more candid about how much you hate people who have to rely on larger capacity vehicles taz, kinda buffers my point that despite all the spin leftist / greens really savor these higher prices.


No one has to rely upon those types of vehicles. They choose too. If they choose too, then they pay the price at the pumps. Myself, I use public transportation whenever possible.

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With more domestic production we wouldnt be so susceptible to problems outside our borders and like it or not and despite all the spin a majority of voters will hold Democrats responsible for the high fuel prices as well as the harm they do to the economy, and thats good because thats squarely where the blame belongs.


The blame doesnt belong there, Sanity. It belongs with every administration. Why werent checks and balances implemented with the oil drilling? Thats hardly something new that began with Obama. The moratorium's were necessary to make big oil fess up to the problems with their own designs and lack of contingency plans for problems.




Sanity -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 12:00:25 PM)


Youre not going to haul a heavy load, or a large family or other group etc in a Prius, and on top of that theres that leftist hatred for liberty rearing its ugly head again








Musicmystery -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 12:03:11 PM)

~FR~

All oil is not the same. Libyan crude is especially light, making it ideal for jet fuel and kerosene. To refine other oils for these purposes requires four times as much oil--hence the spike in prices.

The takeaway here is still lowering demand. We can build efficient homes--we just don't. We can move toward efficient autos too...this is all 70s stuff we started but then stopped, losing three decades. But we can start again, seriously and with commitment this time. If we choose.




tazzygirl -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 12:15:54 PM)

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Youre not going to haul a heavy load, or a large family or other group etc in a Prius, and on top of that theres that leftist hatred for liberty rearing its ugly head again


There are larger cars than a prius who get better gas mileage than an SUV.

Have a large family but cant afford it? I cant seem to shed a tear.

As far as liberty talk, no one is saying you cant drive one. Just dont bitch about it when you cant afford the toys you decide to play with.




hlen5 -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 12:22:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

..........The takeaway here is still lowering demand. We can build efficient homes--we just don't. We can move toward efficient autos too...this is all 70s stuff we started but then stopped, losing three decades. But we can start again, seriously and with commitment this time. If we choose.


Is it going to take $10/gal gas, before people take the reduce in "Reduce, re-use, recycle"
seriously??




geilematz -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 12:40:45 PM)

oh you Americans - when will you begin to learn that you are not sole proprietors of this Earth




tazzygirl -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 12:44:21 PM)

When other countries stop treating us like we are?




hlen5 -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 12:58:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: geilematz

oh you Americans - when will you begin to learn that you are not sole proprietors of this Earth


Care to expand on how your statement relates to the topic at hand?

Welcome to CM and the boards, too. Lovely profile pics. Have you considered formally introducing yourself in the introductions forum?




geilematz -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 1:18:54 PM)

to hlen5:
maybe you could look up the development of oil and other resources' prices worldwide ...
you might notice that the major reason for their explosion is the buyer's competition between the US and China in recent years ...
but everybody on this planet has to pay for it
so happy ruining each other




slvemike4u -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 1:22:29 PM)

In that case blame China...we have always been gluttonous consumers,they are the new kids trying to emulate us (in their spiking usage of course,not in a political sense)[:D]




Edwynn -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 1:31:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: geilematz

oh you Americans - when will you begin to learn that you are not sole proprietors of this Earth






Congratulations. You sound exactly like a Brit.


The US is the one and only cause (or 'sole proprietors') of trouble in the world. You are new here, but read the archives to further reinforce your already made up mind there.

You will enjoy it.


Not that I would expect you to actually read the whole thread and understand that some few Americans have given the most pertinent information on the subject at hand. That would be making the assumption that you could understand anything beyond getting your shoes tied.












geilematz -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 1:31:35 PM)

... and if you wonder why the dollar is on the decline in comparison to other currencies: because the US borrowed so much money within the past decade, from ... China;)
then governed by? you know better ...
and what for? (I won't tell ...)

don't let me be misunderstood: I love America




slvemike4u -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 1:32:39 PM)

Yeah,that's the impression I was getting,lol.




hlen5 -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 2:12:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: geilematz

to hlen5:
maybe you could look up the development of oil and other resources' prices worldwide ...
you might notice that the major reason for their explosion is the buyer's competition between the US and China in recent years ...
but everybody on this planet has to pay for it
so happy ruining each other


If you had read all my posts on this thread alone, you would have seen than I am not an "America First, now and forever" sort of person.

One reason gas prices are going up is the sheer volume of increased need world-wide (Agreed, China is a big new consumer in this area). Another reason gas prices are going up is because people will pay the going rate for it.

If alternate means of energy were developed IN CONJUNCTION WITH decreased demand (more efficiency of what we do use), the price per barrel would plummet.

You've made quite a splash with only 4 posts. Congratulations!




geilematz -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 2:29:37 PM)

and to hlen5:
I agree with most of what you wrote (as I said - maybe couldn't find all your posts ...)
and thanks [:)]




geilematz -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 2:31:58 PM)

gas prices are not an issue concerning America and Americans alone ... not too hard to understand[;)]




tazzygirl -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 2:33:52 PM)

If you used the "reply" or "quote" button above the post you are replying too, it would be helpful.




Lucylastic -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 2:59:48 PM)

hmmmm but you assumed she was a brit, can you take your own advice?




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 3:06:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: geilematz

... and if you wonder why the dollar is on the decline in comparison to other currencies: because the US borrowed so much money within the past decade, from ... China;)
then governed by? you know better ...
and what for? (I won't tell ...)

don't let me be misunderstood: I love America



Anyone who's misunderstanding you is probably not trying too hard, and is probably interpreting your posts through their own biases. I have no problem understanding you at all, and I mostly  agree with your original fundamental point. I don't see what the problem is; you're not saying anything different from what a lot of us have said many times before.

And if you genuinely love America, you're one up on me. I've lived here my whole life, and I sure don't love it. I just live here, that's all. Too goddamned many Americans infesting the place; it'd be a great place to live if they'd just get the fuck out.

Oh - and welcome to the forums.




Musicmystery -> RE: Gas prices have spiked! May soon past record highs! $4-$5 gas coming (4/15/2011 3:06:40 PM)

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... and if you wonder why the dollar is on the decline in comparison to other currencies: because the US borrowed so much money within the past decade, from ... China;)


Sorry, but your facts are fuzzy.

The dollar isn't on the decline next to other currencies--in fact, it's still where international investors are turning.

The U.S. has borrowed quite a bit from China, but much more from the EU. The majority of the debt is still held by U.S. citizens.

In short...you lent us the money. Seems you consider us a good investment still. That's because we're 1/5 of the global economy, twice the the GDP of China.

Hien is right, though--NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with what I posted about building efficient homes and vehicles, which benefits us all.




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