Termyn8or
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"What's wrong with giving, to make yourself feel better?"
Is that not selfish ? I think it better to give because of the need and your humanity. I also believe that those who dip their grubby little hands into funds that were given by people to others out of the goodness of their hearts should be shot. Shot MANY times before being allowed to die.
"There but for the grace of God... "
Indeed. Where I live is not likely to see alot of seismic activity, but then who really knows ? Remember Katrina ? Not all that far away was it ?
"Big picture, there isn't anything we can REALLY do to help."
Quite possible. If true though, then that means it becomes another money pit. Thinking objectively, if you walked out the door and found everything washed away and your town in shambles, just what would you need ? More on that later I think.
"Suddenly you felt as if you were not quite as alone as you felt, and your morale and motivation were increased. "
Looking at giving from the recipient's point of view ? Admirable to say the least.
"David died 10 days later. Still aged 8 years old."
He certainly never forgot. I don't mean that snarkily or anything. What kind of monetary price could be put on making someone's last days better ? Unless you pulled out a few Zlaty for the kid's burger, what was the price ? You changed venue, that cost some petrol, you moved the show which may have narrowed the pool of possible attendees. Who cares ? You did this, and probably without actually writing a check. Kudos.
"Stella, you are such a gift "
Yeah, I figure we'll keep her around, what say you ?
"and cause I have tears in my eyes so I can't see to write something original."
Don't sweat it. While extremely stoic, I am not a machine. You just be you. We're OK on that I think. If you are an achy breaky touchy feelie, so be it. There is not a damnthing wrong with that.
"OP never said don't give just be more careful"
Absitively and posolutley. I wasn't in the greatest mood when I wrote the OP, but when I know and I see more of people profiting by the suffering of others, well sometimes it just ain't cool with me. The fact is that I can be a real nasty son of a bitch, but some things are just too much. I won't do certain things.
"following that tragedy in japan that gave a massive push for people to vote for the green party,"
A vote is an asset. That means it is profiting from human misery. That's what governments and big companies do every damn day. Hey, I can even go along with profiting from people's stupidity, but there are limits. Some of these bastards have no limits, governments among them. We need gun control becuse somebody got shot, we need to make drunk driving a felony because some assholes don't know how to drive, we need....... how long you got ? They turn everything into a profit.
"We give because we are compassionate. I have a roof over my head and food in my fridge."
My Mother probably has enough blankets for all of them. Where do we drop them off ? Some organisation is required. You need some badass vehicles when the road is sitting on top of the roof. You need a way to get it there because those people are all jammed up. I could see sending the fifty bucks or something, for gasoline if nothing else. But everybody has to make a buck. I don't like that and will likely elaborate later on it.
"thank you ever so much for sharing it " (that was a reply to Stella)
I second that.
"When the twin towers went down, i was stunned and horrified. A true tragedy - and then i heard about stock traders (who don't make minimum wage) widows getting bundles of cash - because they didn't have insurance and they "deserved" it. But Joe Blow who has a car accident and dies - that family gets very little. "
"and these things cost money"
You have struck a chord, it resonates with what I am trying to say here. These things cost money. Why ? Why can't the miners work a day free and supply iron, cobalt, silicon and selenium, whatever ? Why can't an oil company give free fuel to transport those materials along with our blankets, spare stoves and whatever we can give ? Why is it money ? You can't eat money. The people who collect money to provide these things to those stricken with bad luck do not work for free. Why not ? If people didn't have to get a piece of the pie, this could ALL be done without a single penny spent. No money, just all the things they need to buy. I know why, and that is one of the main things that bother me about this planet.
Charity is about life and death Sunnshine ? You don't say. Let's all send Termy ten bucks so he can afford that good weed. That is not charity, I don't really know what it is. Need means need. Need means possibly a car, not more speakers for it. Need is water, not gold faucets like our military installed in Kuwait after Iraq beat their ass. Actually need is something that few have experienced in this country, but that will change.
"It's not like people can just hop on a plane with canned goods and randomly hand them out. That would be chaos. Plus, would you rather spend $1,000 on a flight or $1,000 on providing a few extra hospital beds, or shelter beds, or medical supplies, or $1,000 worth of food? "
Very much. But what is a volunteer ? Can rich businessmen send one of their jets or whatever, well I guess a helicopter ? Can BP donate the fuel ? How about that. I know the situation is a bit more complex than I put forth. But it's still true, why money ? The stores are all out in the ocean or something. And the people there were not broke. While they are not what they once were, they saved money, rather than we Americans who spend it years before we get it. I don't think it was really a matter of money, because they were not broke, they had money in the bank. The problem is that the bank is gone.
Which shows to go you just how real money isn't. You can't eat it, maybe burn it for heat but what els ? What if there is noone out there willing to trade you what you need for the "scrip" ? And I don't care about what it is, it could be solid sterling silver, 24K gold. It will not nourish your body, nor will it keep you warm. It is fucking useless.
"It made a difference for that one."
I hereby nominate you for that whatever Stella won. Choose to save one instead of a thousand ? What if a thousand people did that ? Umm, two miners, one smelter, a machinist, and engineer and a architect, and a mason, electrician, plumber. Note that we are nowhere near a thousand yet.
"Reminds me a bit about my passion sometimes when I made little improvements for the disabled clients I worked with."
Sometimes they need a new roof on the house, sometimes all they need is for it to be easier to take a piss. I don't think charity has anything to do with money.
Maybe times like these can teach us what is really of value. Everything that gets done has a cost. Your currency, even gold and silver are nothing but currency, is just a measure of worth. It is not worth, just a representative.
I know construction people, strong and able. They could mine some ore. That ore could be taken to a smelting plant and made into good alloys like steel. They could cut down trees for lumber. Some could mine oil for the fuel. What do people need a house ? I know an out of work mason, I can work witrh wood. I got acrophobia but I can do almost all the other carpentry for a house, and I can wire and plumb it. The mason would take care of the drain but I know how to hook up to it. I could also install the windows and doors, and do the trim work. If noone donates prehung doors, I actually know how to do it. I can take just the wood, make a door and the doorway as well. An electric company could donate a few KWHes to power my tools and keep my cordlesses charged.
Understand ? It might be complicated, but this world CAN live without money. Sure it would be a mess, but it's already a mess.
Getting rid of money once and for all would cripple the caste system in which we live, it would remove the power from those who do not deserve it. The world could be a better place.
Why does big business need our money to buy the needy paper plate at five bucks apiece when I can get 300 of them for less than that at Aldi's ? You heard of the $700 toilet seat of course.
Why ? I know why, and I think you do as well. Well I don't like it and I ranted. Thank you all for participating.
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