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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/12/2011 12:52:50 PM

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denied or studiously ignored by the right.

Really? How odd, then, that the article you linked says that WND's tactics have earned it, "criticism even on the right," and cites the Conservative Political Action Conference as an example.

You did read the piece, right?

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/12/2011 3:30:54 PM

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That's why the well documented lie, started by WND, that Obama has spent 2 million dollars fighting the birther lawsuits has never been picked up by anyone anywhere.

Except of course that particular lie shows up all over the place including here repeatedly. Which shows the problem with the right wing media.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/12/2011 4:39:42 PM

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I don't think many of the opinion people would really say they are engaging in news. They just try to cloak it as such till called out on it.

The right hasn't cornered the market on those types. There are dumb asses on both ends of the spectrum.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/12/2011 4:40:44 PM

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Yes ken, you caught us. Youre right... all conservatives are the devil and all leftists have only the purest thoughts, motives and intentions...

Glad to see you're catching on.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/12/2011 4:47:07 PM

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I don't think many of the opinion people would really say they are engaging in news. They just try to cloak it as such till called out on it.

The right hasn't cornered the market on those types. There are dumb asses on both ends of the spectrum.

That's the point, neither the column referenced by Salon nor the behavior of the FNC news editor were presented as opinion. They were presented as facts or at least as part of what FNC claims is their hard news programming.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/12/2011 4:58:45 PM

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I don't like WND and don't read it, but "misinformation" appearing in an OPINION column is hardly worth frothing over.

K.

I disagree.

Surely the fact that many people read these lies, and possibly vote in an election because of what they have read, is highly important.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/12/2011 5:06:30 PM

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The problem is as old as reporting. Any reporter can and will have his own agenda in what he presents. Like the tabloid press. As long as it sells newpapers, it is ok. Stuff the accuracy or truth as long as it is sensational. The political press will always slant their stories to fit their needs and so fort. It is not really a left or right wing issue.
I am a great fan of "The Daily Show" with John Stewart. At least he is honest. The show always starts with the following quote. "The reporters are not journalists, the stories are not fact checked and it´s opinions is not always fully thought trough." A lot of other media should carry the same disclaimer.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/13/2011 5:39:46 AM

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May I remind people that the beloved US media spent alot of money to win the legal right to openly lie in this country with indemnity ?

That was a while back, maybe everybody forgot. And the thing it, they don't even have to lie to spin, all they have to do is omit. They teach these skills in our institutes of "higher" learning.

Want an example ? "The Man was fined two hundred dollars, the US has now used the nuclear bomb yesterday on Bumfuktavia, and after the commercial break, where to get a good haircut". Very simple really. When you do the scheduling of a presentment, you have control over the viewers' perceptions.

In other words, sure they lie, but if they knew what they're doing they really wouldn't have to. Maybe that education isn't so high anymore.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/13/2011 5:45:53 AM

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Yes ken, you caught us. Youre right... all conservatives are the devil and all leftists have only the purest thoughts, motives and intentions...

Glad to see you're catching on.

That would be funny if there were not so many people on cm who actually believe that way.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/13/2011 5:50:47 AM

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No more on the left believe that than believe that there is a vast, reasoned and informed moderate right represented out here.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/13/2011 6:04:53 AM

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Shock
People lie.
Shock 2X. People, entities, organizations, even *Gasp, the horror* news agencies lie to advance their aim.
Even worse, they like to stir the shit, start controversy, sell papers and advance agendas. OMG, thank the saints that William Hearst and the news barons of the 19th century didn't do the same...or the ones who covered the Jefferson/Adams election.
Christ. This isn't a right wing thing or a left wing thing. Each side lies, for many reasons. That's politics. That's people.
If you don't like it, grow the fuck up, pull your head out of your ass, and smell the cat food that is reality.

What sickens me is reading comments that essentially state "Our side is all right, your side is all wrong, we speak the truth and are the anointed whereas the other is full of naught but diabolical lies." These claims smack of the same absurd close minded fanaticism of zealotry and possess similar levels of sanity. Zoroastrianism is a nice ideal, but really holds little truck in a world that is comprised almost entirely in shades of gray.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/13/2011 7:11:49 AM

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I don't like WND and don't read it, but "misinformation" appearing in an OPINION column is hardly worth frothing over.

K.

I disagree.

Surely the fact that many people read these lies, and possibly vote in an election because of what they have read, is highly important.

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I don't like WND and don't read it, but "misinformation" appearing in an OPINION column is hardly worth frothing over.

K.

I thought those on your side were the "guardians" of free speech? What do you propose...a panel (made up of who, exactly) to check out each and every line written by someone? A law (there ya go...a way for the Government to control our lives in yet another ay cuz ya know...publication without regulation could be dangerous ) to "save us" from "lies"?

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/13/2011 7:45:29 AM

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I would count Politesub as a conservative, moderate mind you, but conservative. Additionally, there is no government and our in the same sentence, he is English as toffee and tory.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/13/2011 4:18:40 PM

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I thought those on your side were the "guardians" of free speech? What do you propose...a panel (made up of who, exactly) to check out each and every line written by someone? A law (there ya go...a way for the Government to control our lives in yet another ay cuz ya know...publication without regulation could be dangerous ) to "save us" from "lies"?

Creative Dominant, meet creative thought. How the hell do you get that because I think it is better for the media to tell the truth, that I must be on the left, or that I propose regulations ?

You seem happy to be fed lies and thats fine, although I doubt its healthy. Personally I like to read the truth.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/14/2011 11:29:32 AM

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I thought those on your side were the "guardians" of free speech? What do you propose...a panel (made up of who, exactly) to check out each and every line written by someone? A law (there ya go...a way for the Government to control our lives in yet another ay cuz ya know...publication without regulation could be dangerous ) to "save us" from "lies"?

Creative Dominant, meet creative thought. How the hell do you get that because I think it is better for the media to tell the truth, that I must be on the left, or that I propose regulations ?

You seem happy to be iberal cway from lfed lies and thats fine, although I doubt its healthy. Personally I like to read the truth.

I will assume you are staying away from progressive columnists then and the "truth" to be found on sites such as the Huffington Post.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/14/2011 11:34:53 AM

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Dude, he is far more likely to read The Mail, or The Telegraph (although I read him as a Guardian type for real world stuff) than ever he would even know what the fuck a HuffPo is.

He is as English at Tetley Tea, and that ain't coffee he is sipping in that picture, and that is like asking him if he listens to Rush Limbaugh on the shortwave. It don't compute.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/14/2011 11:42:13 AM

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Yep, they don't have internet in England.

no way he could possibly know what the fuck the Huffington Post is, or have ever read it.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/14/2011 12:10:29 PM

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I thought those on your side were the "guardians" of free speech? What do you propose...a panel (made up of who, exactly) to check out each and every line written by someone? A law (there ya go...a way for the Government to control our lives in yet another ay cuz ya know...publication without regulation could be dangerous ) to "save us" from "lies"?

Funny, the right have always been the ones pushing for censorship, all you have to do is see the fuss over porn.

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/14/2011 12:14:11 PM

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Tipper and Al Gore are on the Right?

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RE: Right wing publisher: We run some misinformation. - 4/14/2011 12:16:58 PM

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I thought those on your side were the "guardians" of free speech? What do you propose...a panel (made up of who, exactly) to check out each and every line written by someone? A law (there ya go...a way for the Government to control our lives in yet another ay cuz ya know...publication without regulation could be dangerous ) to "save us" from "lies"?

Funny, the right have always been the ones pushing for censorship, all you have to do is see the fuss over porn.

you are right,,,the FAR right has.Rep. you don't see Me or any of the other conservatives on here....or many that are not on here...pushing for censorship. And l can recall reading quite a few posts from those on the left who would love to censor Rush, FOX, or any number of media outlets or speakers from the right.

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