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DeviantlyD -> Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 8:56:58 PM)

My question for you is: When you think of the best lover you've ever had, what about that woman made them the best lover? Would you make a distinction between a woman being a lover and just a good "fuck"? If so, what makes a good lover and what makes a good fuck? What made them exciting? Were there particular things they did?

Depending on the responses, I may add/edit this question to better define my question(s).

Thanks! :)




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 9:02:14 PM)

Since when does a good fuck and a good lover mean 2 different things? [sm=dunno.gif]




NocturnalStalker -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 9:06:25 PM)

If they cuddled after or made me leave before their boyfriend came over.




0ldhen -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 9:40:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

If they cuddled after or made me leave before their boyfriend came over.



Damnit NS....you PROMISED not to tell!

ps....your boxers are caught behind the hedges under the bedroom window........




DeviantlyD -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 10:14:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

Since when does a good fuck and a good lover mean 2 different things? [sm=dunno.gif]


If you re-read my question, you will see that I did not make that assessment. I simply asked if the man answering that question saw the two as different, what were those differences.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 10:43:13 PM)

i'm not a heterosexual man, so i can't speak from that point of view, but i can from mine. i have had a number of good lovers, all of them women or gay men, i have never encountered a heterosexual man who was more than a mediocre lover.

a good lover engages your entire self in the sex. your whole body and mind become an erogenous zone. she fucks all of you. a good lover studies her partner in the minutest detail, memorizing every reaction, every gasp, twitch and sigh, and using that information to deliver the most erotic and satisfying experience possible to her lover. a good lover's primary focus is on her partner. she never allows her own pleasure to distract her from her main purpose, to satisfy her lover in the most complete way she can.

a good lover is not some thing you are, it is something you do.

hannah lynn




TheHeretic -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 11:12:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
Would you make a distinction between a woman being a lover and just a good "fuck"? If so, what makes a good lover and what makes a good fuck?



I certainly would make such a distinction. A fuck is a fuck, a lover is a package. My experience, and I've heard this in conversation with other guys as well, is that the very best fucks, the wildest, rip the bedsheets, scare the cats, and speak in a primal roar when you cum, fucks are with crazy women. Put another way, there is a good reason so many nice guys stay with utter psycho-bitches.

I could tell of an amazing four day fling in my youth with what turned out to be a bi-polar borderline schizophrenic, but I know there are many such stories.

A lover is a good fuck you like to have breakfast with. [:D]





blacksword404 -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 11:37:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
Would you make a distinction between a woman being a lover and just a good "fuck"? If so, what makes a good lover and what makes a good fuck?



I certainly would make such a distinction. A fuck is a fuck, a lover is a package. My experience, and I've heard this in conversation with other guys as well, is that the very best fucks, the wildest, rip the bedsheets, scare the cats, and speak in a primal roar when you cum, fucks are with crazy women. Put another way, there is a good reason so many nice guys stay with utter psycho-bitches.

I could tell of an amazing four day fling in my youth with what turned out to be a bi-polar borderline schizophrenic, but I know there are many such stories.

A lover is a good fuck you like to have breakfast with. [:D]




Damn crazy women. They are crazy because they have problems controlling themselves. Now in everyday situations that is what makes them crazy. In the bedroom that is what makes them so good. No off button. But I never compare women who are just fucks to woman you have feeling for. Not a fair comparison.




subfever -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/16/2011 11:55:28 PM)

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When you think of the best lover you've ever had, what about that woman made them the best lover? What made them exciting? Were there particular things they did?


The keys were sexual: chemistry, communication, and compatibility.

First off, I was extremely attracted to her. Then, she had a gift of fluidly letting me know exactly what she wanted, which I'm sure contributed to her multiple, vocal, gutteral, and sometimes even convulsing orgasms. This hottie sometimes even briefly passed out from her orgasms. She was open-minded to experimentation, slightly on the sexually selfish side (which I didn't mind a bit, since I had to concentrate on delaying my orgasms with this firecracker anyway), and had a wonderfully high sex drive that was fortunately a few notches short of nymphomania.

I soon moved in with her, and I don't exaggerate when I say that we fucked 3-4 times a day for many consecutive months before the initial thrill finally wore off, and we settled into some semblance of "normalcy."

I was only 30 when I hooked up with this sex goddess. Though I've had many partners prior and since, I've never duplicated that level of sustained euphoric sexual compatibility.




DeviantlyD -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:27:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

i'm not a heterosexual man, so i can't speak from that point of view, but i can from mine. i have had a number of good lovers, all of them women or gay men, i have never encountered a heterosexual man who was more than a mediocre lover.

a good lover engages your entire self in the sex. your whole body and mind become an erogenous zone. she fucks all of you. a good lover studies her partner in the minutest detail, memorizing every reaction, every gasp, twitch and sigh, and using that information to deliver the most erotic and satisfying experience possible to her lover. a good lover's primary focus is on her partner. she never allows her own pleasure to distract her from her main purpose, to satisfy her lover in the most complete way she can.

a good lover is not some thing you are, it is something you do.

hannah lynn



I hear what you're saying...that a good lover makes it all about you and your pleasure.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I certainly would make such a distinction. A fuck is a fuck, a lover is a package. My experience, and I've heard this in conversation with other guys as well, is that the very best fucks, the wildest, rip the bedsheets, scare the cats, and speak in a primal roar when you cum, fucks are with crazy women. Put another way, there is a good reason so many nice guys stay with utter psycho-bitches.

I could tell of an amazing four day fling in my youth with what turned out to be a bi-polar borderline schizophrenic, but I know there are many such stories.

A lover is a good fuck you like to have breakfast with. [:D]



Details man!! Details! What do you mean by "crazy" as it pertains to the physical act of sex?

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ORIGINAL: blacksword404

Damn crazy women. They are crazy because they have problems controlling themselves. Now in everyday situations that is what makes them crazy. In the bedroom that is what makes them so good. No off button. But I never compare women who are just fucks to woman you have feeling for. Not a fair comparison.


Can you define what you mean by "no off button"?

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ORIGINAL: subfever

The keys were sexual: chemistry, communication, and compatibility.

First off, I was extremely attracted to her. Then, she had a gift of fluidly letting me know exactly what she wanted, which I'm sure contributed to her multiple, vocal, gutteral, and sometimes even convulsing orgasms. This hottie sometimes even briefly passed out from her orgasms. She was open-minded to experimentation, slightly on the sexually selfish side (which I didn't mind a bit, since I had to concentrate on delaying my orgasms with this firecracker anyway), and had a wonderfully high sex drive that was fortunately a few notches short of nymphomania.

I soon moved in with her, and I don't exaggerate when I say that we fucked 3-4 times a day for many consecutive months before the initial thrill finally wore off, and we settled into some semblance of "normalcy."

I was only 30 when I hooked up with this sex goddess. Though I've had many partners prior and since, I've never duplicated that level of sustained euphoric sexual compatibility.



What was it about her that made you so extremely attracted? When you say attracted, is this entirely in the physical sense? Or was it both physical and non-physical? Are there things that women do that make it great for you, regardless of whether that chemistry is there?




DeviantlyD -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:29:04 AM)

For anyone inclined to respond to the original post, perhaps you could answer another question as well. What makes a lover bad? Aside from the obvious that is. I imagine a lover who just lays there or is not very engaged in the act would be bad. I'm referring to things less obvious than that. :)




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:35:32 AM)

a bad lover is one for whom the sex is purely about their own satisfaction.

hannah lynn




GreedyTop -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:36:14 AM)

Bad?  teh inability to engage me in ANY way.. physically, mentally or emotionally..

failure to produce the erect dic  (evenn with the blue pills) is also a problem, FOR ME. Toys are great, at times, but I dont want that to be the entire experience.

Bad also includes the disregard for MY pleasure.  I'm not saying I need to get off every time. but if the journey isnt fun, I aint taking the trip again.




tazzygirl -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:37:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

a bad lover is one for whom the sex is purely about their own satisfaction.

hannah lynn



Depends on what their own satisfaction is. I have had lovers who were selfish and greedy. And I have had lovers who were demanding that I give and give, pulling me to that edge, and shoving me over time and time again until I begged for them to stop. Thankfully, they didnt.

Their own satisfaction was in my release... it had nothing to do with my own satisfaction.




LazyKitten -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:47:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

i'm not a heterosexual man, so i can't speak from that point of view, but i can from mine. i have had a number of good lovers, all of them women or gay men, i have never encountered a heterosexual man who was more than a mediocre lover.

a good lover engages your entire self in the sex. your whole body and mind become an erogenous zone. she fucks all of you. a good lover studies her partner in the minutest detail, memorizing every reaction, every gasp, twitch and sigh, and using that information to deliver the most erotic and satisfying experience possible to her lover. a good lover's primary focus is on her partner. she never allows her own pleasure to distract her from her main purpose, to satisfy her lover in the most complete way she can.

a good lover is not some thing you are, it is something you do.

hannah lynn



I do not think more than 5% of men REALLY know how to please a woman, and I think I am being too generous in that estimate. If a man would, I don't know, TALK to a woman during and after sex to find out how he did without getting all hurt, we could teach them what is important to us! I prefer men to women, but NOT because they are better lovers, because the BEST male lover is not even middle of the pack with any of my female lovers. I do not know how my current Owner is yet, but my Sister seems to think he is one of the best lovers (only male she has been with that counted, but she has been with at least a hundred women)




tazzygirl -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:48:12 AM)

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When you think of the best lover you've ever had, what about that woman made them the best lover? Would you make a distinction between a woman being a lover and just a good "fuck"? If so, what makes a good lover and what makes a good fuck? What made them exciting? Were there particular things they did?


I am a woman, so I will speak of the man.

What made him the best lover? How he got into my head. How he didnt allow me to hold anything back. How he knew, instinctively, what I needed, when I needed it, when I didnt know myself. How he could have me crazy mad at him one moment, and crazy with lust the next. I guess you could say he knew my mind better than I did, which made him the best.

For me, a good lover is a good fuck. If my heart isnt into it, its just the motions.




blacksword404 -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:48:49 AM)

They go to extremes others have the good sense to stop at. Usually wild and unpredictable.

To give you some idea of what I mean think rabid environmentalist without the environment. Applied to everything in their life.




LazyKitten -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:51:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

For anyone inclined to respond to the original post, perhaps you could answer another question as well. What makes a lover bad? Aside from the obvious that is. I imagine a lover who just lays there or is not very engaged in the act would be bad. I'm referring to things less obvious than that. :)


If a woman just lies there, you are not pushing the right buttons and she is just hoping you get done and go to sleep. She is NOT enjoying what you are doing. If you cannot get inside our heads you have already lost the battle.

For men, I do not know many who just use thier dicks that can last long enough to be considered just lying there




tazzygirl -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 12:57:42 AM)

LOL.. never rode a man? Believe me, they can just lie there... and its OK, under certain situations.




NocturnalStalker -> RE: Questions for heterosexual men (4/17/2011 1:20:20 AM)

It is good to know you all have such interesting personalities.




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