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tazzygirl -> RE: Evolution vs. Religion (5/3/2011 9:27:47 AM)
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Yes, lets take a look at the opinion piece itself.
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Those who don’t believe in God are widely considered to be immoral, wicked and angry
Yet no quotes, no studies... just opinion... its my opinion the above opinion is wrong.
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They can’t join the Boy Scouts.
The Supreme Court ruled that the Boy Scouts is a private organization and, as such, can make the rules as they desire. Or is it the belief among atheists that the state should tell private clubs what to do?
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nonbelievers are one minority still commonly denied in practical terms the right to assume office despite the constitutional ban on religious tests.
Lori Lipman Brown (1958–): American politician, lobbyist, lawyer, educator, and social worker supporter, Nevada state senator
1992-1994.
Culbert Olson (1876–1962): American politician and Governor of California (1939–1943).
Pete Stark (1931–): U.S. Representative (D-CA), the first openly atheist member of Congress.
But, wait, the opinion piece didnt say there were none, only that they were in the minority.
So, what number would be fair? Do we make it a requirement that a certain percentage must be black, then another must be hispanic, and that only a certain number can be catholic? And what about crossover numbers, how do they fit in when one person can fit three categories, for example a hispanic female who is catholic?
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A growing body of social science research reveals that atheists, and non-religious people in general, are far from the unsavory beings many assume them to be. On basic questions of morality and human decency — issues such as governmental use of torture, the death penalty, punitive hitting of children, racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, environmental degradation or human rights — the irreligious tend to be more ethical than their religious peers, particularly compared with those who describe themselves as very religious.
I really like this part. Here, Zuckerman, one of the writers of the opinion piece, cites his own work.
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Consider that at the societal level, murder rates are far lower in secularized nations such as Japan or Sweden than they are in the much more religious United States, which also has a much greater portion of its population in prison. Even within this country, those states with the highest levels of church attendance, such as Louisiana and Mississippi, have significantly higher murder rates than far less religious states such as Vermont and Oregon.
Yep, if you are religious, you will be a murderer. [8|] High murder rates are those based upon only the residents of that state. How could someone from another state commit a murder? I mean, honestly, I do see their point (on top of their heads). I wont even get into the differences between countries.
The rest is just as rediculous, in my opinion. Zuckerman repeatedly cites either his own research or that research that includes his research. It reads more of a whine than an opinion.
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