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tazzygirl -> RE: Evolution vs. Religion (5/5/2011 3:10:49 AM)
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These would be 2 of the posts that lead me to believe that you were still reacting to the posted article.
That said, please point out where the article said that atheists are more intelligent than theists, or that theists are stupid. It isn't there; but that did not stop boi from claiming that it was, nor you from intimating that it was.
I honestly think that both of you read much into the opinion piece that was either not there at all, or not meant the way you took it. As for one of the authors referencing his own work, why wouldn't he? It is, again, an opinion piece, not a scientific article submitted for peer review. Don't most people draw from their own experiences when writing their opinions?
The article....
As individuals, atheists tend to score high on measures of intelligence, especially verbal ability and scientific literacy
The link contained within the article...
Evidence is reviewed pointing to a negative relationship between intelligence and religious belief in the United States and Europe. It is shown that intelligence measured as psychometricg is negatively related to religious belief. We also examine whether this negative relationship between intelligence and religious belief is present between nations. Wefind that in a sample of 137 countries the correlation between national IQ and disbelief in God is 0.60.
© 2008 Published by Elsevier Inc
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14765500/Average-intelligence-predicts-atheism-rates-across-137-nations-Lynn-et-al
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Yep, if you are religious, you will be a murderer.
Yet another example of overreacting to something that seems to have offended you. The authors never said that
Consider that at the societal level, murder rates are far lower in secularized nations such as Japan or Sweden than they are in the much more religious United States, which also has a much greater portion of its population in prison. Even within this country, those states with the highest levels of church attendance, such as Louisiana and Mississippi, have significantly higher murder rates than far less religious states such as Vermont and Oregon.
To use the word you used... intimating.
To use my own, they said it.
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issues such as governmental use of torture, the death penalty, punitive hitting of children, racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, environmental degradation or human rights — the irreligious tend to be more ethical than their religious peers, particularly compared with those who describe themselves as very religious.
As someone who I know disagrees with the religious right and often clashes with them on exactly the above issues, do you really disagree with this?
Nowhere does it say all religious people, or even any religious people are immoral. Political party wasn't addressed anywhere that I can see, but the results of such a study might be pretty spectacular.
Its back to the "us" vs "them" I see atheists complain about how the religious place themselves above the nonreligious... yet its the exact same thing this opinion piece did... placing themselves above the religious.
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