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Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 2:15:11 PM

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I have a question for my fellow masochists and those who consider themselves pain sluts. I was wondering if you engage in other activities besides S&M to get your endorphin fix? Do you exercise or anything like this to get those chemicals into your brain?

I did not know I was a masochist until a couple of years ago, but I have always enjoyed pushing my limits with physical activity and enjoyed making myself sore through exercise. I liked the high I got through hiking especially. Even now I exercise daily and I can literally feel it when I get an endorphin fix. It isn't as good as subspace, but it is still a form of flying. I was wondering if other masochists do things like this to get their endorphin fix. If you do exercise to get a rush what kind of exercise do you do?

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 2:16:30 PM

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 2:23:34 PM

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I punish myself by being addicted to golf.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 2:27:26 PM

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If you do exercise to get a rush what kind of exercise do you do?

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 2:38:57 PM

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I read a book called "Positive Addiction" (by a guy w/last name Glass?) who said any, regular, strenuous exercize puts the exact same endorphins in place; running, weight lifting, aerobic exercize...

AND...one DOES get addicted to it! Hence...the runner's high and the runner's low when it's too wet to run!!!

Yup...I've heard the same thing re: hot peppers, btw.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 2:46:07 PM

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Im majorly hooked on exercise. Like I said, I can pinpoint the exact moment those endorphins spill into my brain, I bet I am the only person sweating like a pig at the gym with a smile on my face. It is slightly sexual too because I associate the flying with subspace...grinning. and nella, breathlessness kills brain cells dear... I know you have them to burn...winks.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 3:04:37 PM

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Thanks julia...good reason to exercise.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 3:25:45 PM

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I have always found this to be interesting and a bit of a double standard. If one exercises to the point of "feeling the burn" and beyond its perfectly acceptable. Yet get roughly the same "burn" from a spanking and society sees you as some pervert. Walk across hot coals? A mind opening experience. Nipple clamps? Pervert.
I've known people that were addicted to Rolfing or even just real hard deep tissue massage that expressed (privately of course) that its a form of whole body sexual release.
Ok so then I have a couple of questions plese. Are endorphins like a neurological impulse thats deadened or sent to a certain affected body area or are the like some sort of glandular secretion? Also, if its lactic acid buildup that makes your muscles sore, how come certain muscles won't feel the same the following couple of days after say a really harsh spanking/paddling? (Sorry, if this is to far off topic.)

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 3:46:12 PM

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I'm an adrenaline junkie, I love the roller coasters and fear play.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 4:35:33 PM

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adrenaline is not necesarily the same thing as endorphin rushes... they do not go together always. To put yourself in a state of adrenaline overload every day is harmful. Endorphins are not. Fear and the submissive and subspace are not synomous either. Just my understanding from the reading I have done on the subject and my personal experience

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 4:42:58 PM

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i am def an endorphin junki, but i only feed it playing on the intermural softball team. i used to go running, but not anymore. i also, live for that sore muscle feeling. i love it.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 5:48:43 PM

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Hello A/all,

I noticed in this thread about endorphins that somebody claims to be an adrenalin junky.

I team adrenalin response training (full-contact women's self defense) as a male assailant and my job is to create the adrenalin response in the student and then we teach the student to fight in that state.

Endorphins are a biochemical released in the brain that uses the same neurological pathways that morphine and heroin hijack. The purpose of endorphins are to suppress pain response. Subspace is partially being stoned by one's endorphins. A person who exercises a great deal tends to have a low level of endorphins at all times, since the brain releases them into the bloodstream to calm the screaming muscles.

Adrenalin response is comprised of 25 or 30 different hormones. These are secreted by various glands in order to basically "turbocharge" a person in a life threatening situation. While it tends to include some endorphins (adrenalized people frequently dont even know they got injured), the primary use of it is to increase muscle power, stamina, etc., to increase one's ability to fight or flee (or, as we have become socialized, to freeze in place unable to respond) an assailant. Natural selection has determined that higher brain functions are not really necessary under the adrenal dump. This is why you can go to martial arts and self defense training for 30 years and have some half drunk out of shape nitwit beat you up outside of a bar. Things you learn without adrenalin are not things you have access to under the influence of adrenalin. Dont believe me, go skydiving and balance your checkbook as you fall to earth.

Endorphins tend to be addictive, and a jonesing pain slut is a nightmare to behold. Adrenalin is not necessarily addictive, or even hard on your system. The problem arises with people who are constantly adrenalized (guess how I live my life as an instructor of adrenalin response training) is that your body secretes a substance called Cortisol to turn off the adrenalin response. Cortisol eats away at your internal organs and is generally bad. The suggested method of maintaining one's health under constant adrenalin involves drinking huge amounts of fluids to flush it out, and medical professionals can prescribe drugs to help.

Some submissives enjoy the rush of an adrenalin response, but this is not synonymous with being in subspace.

Just me, could be wrong, but there ya go.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 6:19:22 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
adrenaline is not necesarily the same thing as endorphin rushes... they do not go together always.

No they aren't- that's why I specifically stated what sort of junkie I am.

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Fear and the submissive and subspace are not synomous either.

They aren't antonymous either.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 6:21:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy
Endorphins tend to be addictive, and a jonesing pain slut is a nightmare to behold. Adrenalin is not necessarily addictive, or even hard on your system. The problem arises with people who are constantly adrenalized (guess how I live my life as an instructor of adrenalin response training) is that your body secretes a substance called Cortisol to turn off the adrenalin response. Cortisol eats away at your internal organs and is generally bad. The suggested method of maintaining one's health under constant adrenalin involves drinking huge amounts of fluids to flush it out, and medical professionals can prescribe drugs to help.Sinergy

Are you saying that elevated enorphins can create to much Cortisol as well or just Adnrenalin?
Alos, what manner or technique are you using to put people into this state before self defense training?

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 6:40:02 PM

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The adrenalin response causes cortisol to be secreted.

To my knowledge, there is no similar substance for endorphins since it is used to filter your brain from the barrage of pain signals
it would receive from daily life.

Do a search for Impact Personal Safety or Model Mugging. Im one of the guys in the padded armor being mean to people and getting kicked in the head.

Just me, could be wrong, but there ya go.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 7:02:55 PM

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I don't consider my self a heave pain slut, but I AM very maso. I kayak, 10-20 miles is kind of the norm- I even do kayak races - plus biking. But I don't engage in those activities for an endorphin fix ... I do them because I LIKE to do them.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 7:03:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Im one of the guys in the padded armor being mean to people and getting kicked in the head.
Sinergy

So is this a kinky sex thing or are really bad career choice, lol. (Joking of course.)

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/9/2006 7:10:34 PM

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It is not really a career choice, MsMacComb. I am a longshoreman which pays far more than being mean to people and getting kicked in the head does.

On the other hand, I perceive what I do as men and women against violence. Violence against people is something I truly abhor. Doing the training is by far the most rewarding thing I have ever done in my life. Although it is a rather weird job since wearing my armor allows me to take full power knee kicks to the groin or head for hours and the student gets tired of it before I do.

Just me, yadda yadda

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/10/2006 4:45:40 AM

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It is too coldly clinical to associate an exercise high that causes endorphin release with the high of flying and the more deeper spacing. A sub flying and spacing is such an emotional, psychological and sexual high that there are facets that can’t be explained using physiological terms. Exercise high is no more than the toe stubbing example of pain that doesn’t cause an erotic high.

Having said that, technically, what I think happens with spacing is neurogenic shock. The body speeds up with catecholamine (epinephrine and norepi) release in a sympathetic, fight or flight response to pain and PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTORS, but is then stopped (spacing) when the parasympathetic response suddenly slows things.

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RE: Calling all Endorphin Junkies - 5/10/2006 4:56:22 AM

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quote:

I have a question for my fellow masochists and those who consider themselves pain sluts. I was wondering if you engage in other activities besides S&M to get your endorphin fix? Do you exercise or anything like this to get those chemicals into your brain?

I sky dive. Some of my best 'rush' jumps have been when I held off a few extra seconds before pulling the chute...always put's an extra bit of excitement into the jump.

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