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LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: This place is lol (4/20/2011 9:34:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheShrew

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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox
I said there is no medical condition that causes you to be fat.

What about Cushing syndrome? You know what happens with C.S., right? No? Alright, skippy, sit down, pay attention and I'll attempt a condensed, crash course in "Day 1 A&P stuff."
Here's the short version .. a pituitary tumor causes an overproduction of adrenocorticotropic hormone{ACTH} .. which overstimulates the adrenal gland ... which causes the over secretion of cortisol. <~ How easy was that episode of connect the dots??
{UNLESS, you have NFI what excess cortisol causes. Anyone? Anyone? Beuller? Hmm, I'll take "causes excess adipose tissue" for $500.00, please, Alex.}
That's right, one of the signs/symptoms  of Cushing syndrome is "central obesity." {Do I need to define that term for you, slick, or can you solve that brain buster on your own?} BTW, the excess cortisol can also cause diabetes. Luckily, you're immune from tumors, right?

Anywho, there is also Hypothyroidism. This is when your thyroid gland doesn't produce enough T3/T4. Essentially, these hormones regulate metabolism. SO, what did you say someone needs to do if they have NO/ faulty metabolic regulation? Oh, right, exercise more. {That will really show that pesky non-functioning endocrine organ who's boss!} 

Also I'm sure you'll think this is a stretch because there "may" be a link between obesity and Polycystic ovary syndrome. However, that link is unproven, but it has been proven that P.C.O.S. does cause metabolic syndrome. A symptom of which is, {you guessed it, pal}, "central obesity." {You remember that definition from my explanation of Cushing, right?}


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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox
I'm not the one at risk of diabetes.

If I understand correctly, you're implying that obesity = diabetes? Interesting. So .. when an perfectly healthy 4 year old is diagnosed with Diabetes Mellitus, it has nothing to do with a faulty pancreas/destruction of the beta cells in the islet of Langerhans? 
Wow, not only have you just blown my mind, you've also rewritten the diagnostic criteria for Diabetes Mellitus. {Way to go, little buddy! AMA & AJM, here you come!}



{Based on what you've said so far, I'd say you need a bolus of potassium chloride. Stat.}




I just want to say how much I admire those of you who have come onto this thread & talked about reality. I haven't seen the OP in a long time now. I hope that he's learning something from the posts here. He started out calling individuals liars for telling him their experience was different from what he believes it should have been. And now he's apparently decided to stfu. I don't wish bad things on anyone, but I hope that as he gets more years on him that he will realize how foolish he has been here & probably elsewhere in his life.

I was a skinny young woman, raised in a fat family. The obesity didn't get me until I took a medication that "might cause a little weight gain". There are hundreds of medications out there with that particular side effect. For me it was an attempt to save my life. It worked for that, but I gained 100 lbs in 10 weeks. Imagine being a size 6 & ballooning up to a size 24 in 2.5 months. That was 10 lbs each week. And I was very carefully watching my diet & I was attempting to exercise. But I got so big so fast that my back got so it wouldn't allow me to walk. Before the medication, I walked an average of 5 miles per day, 7 days a week. I sold my car & walked to & from work & anywhere else I wanted to go. If it was more than 5 miles away, I took the bus. Finally after I achieved the 100 lbs weight gain, I told the dr that they were going to have to find something else for me to take because it appeared that I would continue gaining that 10 lbs every week as long as I took that medication. When I stopped the medication, I didn't change anything else. I didn't eat better, didn't start an exercise regimen, but I stopped gaining weight. Magic, huh??

Unfortunately, I've only ever been able to take off 50 lbs of that weight gain. It's been very discouraging. And people telling me that it couldn't possibly have been the medication, I must have eaten too much always makes me laugh. Because in order to gain one lb, a person needs to ingest 3,500 calories more than they use. So that means I would have had to eat 5,000 more calories every day than I was eating before the medication. I would have spent my whole day eating!!

There are many reasons for people to be the size that they are. I hope that the OP will take this opportunity to educate himself & if he really cares so passionately about the obesity epidemic in this country, he'll work to help correct it.

If not, may I please administer that bolus? kthxbai




tazzygirl -> RE: This place is lol (4/20/2011 9:47:04 PM)

•Very rare genetic disorders, including Froehlich's syndrome in boys, Laurence-Moon-Biedl, and the Prader-Willi syndromes, cause obesity.
•Abnormalities or injury to the hypothalamus gland can cause hypothalamic obesity.
•Cushing's disease is a rare condition caused by high levels of steroid hormones. It results in obesity, a moon-shaped face, and muscle wasting.
•Obesity is also linked to polycystic ovarian syndrome, a hormonal disorder in women.

Effects of Certain Medications
Some prescription medications contribute to weight gain, usually by increasing appetite. Such drugs include the following:

•Corticosteroids
•Female hormone treatments, including some oral contraceptives (usually temporary) and certain progestins (such as Megestrol) used to treat cancer
•Antidepressants and anti-psychotic drugs, including lithium and valproate
•Insulin and insulin-stimulating drugs used to treat diabetes often leads to weight gain, a particularly unfortunate conflict of interest for obese individuals with type 2 diabetes


http://www.healthcentral.com/obesity/complications-000053_2-145_3.html

Its interesting to learn what people believe in error...




DeviantlyD -> RE: This place is lol (4/20/2011 10:06:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox

I am posting from my phone. There's no way available to me to turn it around.



Sure there is. You just need to know how to use your iPhone. :)




LanceHughes -> RE: This place is lol (4/20/2011 10:12:41 PM)

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LanceHughes -> Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/20/2011 10:16:18 PM)

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juliaoceania -> RE: This place is lol (4/20/2011 10:16:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: windchymes

This OP so reminds me of that old saying about being better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt. I think that was A. Lincoln.



I was thinking this exactly as I read this thread.

Just a few words from just another old broad.... are we really surprised that a 24 year old that just recently learned how to control his erections is a little bent out of shape that not everyone on this site conforms to some unrealistic beauty standard that has been thrust at him from almost day one in this country? I am not tremendously surprised that this guy holds this attitude, just slightly amused he needed to state it. Like most of us are not already aware that guys his age want what he does...

Poor guy, has to compete with dominants (especially the daddy doms) that all want the sweet young subs on this site, yet unlike him they have homes, money, etc, that helps make up for the fact they are aging, and so many of those young women are really into the older dominant thing.




LanceHughes -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/20/2011 10:20:20 PM)

I appreciate the comments on personal weight gain. I really do, having experienced 2 pounds per week gain for 13 weeks on a  new med. 

But let's get back to the troll bashing! LOL!

ETA:  See... I changed the thread title to help .....




DeviantlyD -> RE: This place is lol (4/20/2011 10:21:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox

I know many people who have gained weight from chemo and steroids as well. Most people do. But I can assure you that that is not an excuse to be fat.

Let me explain it more simply so y'all can understand. I am not implying that steroids do not cause weight gain. What I am saying, however, is that when something happens that causes you to gain weight you have to take a step back and reassess the situation. Exercise more. Change your diet. Some people can sit on the couch all day long eating pizza and not gain a pound. For most people it's more difficult and it takes work. That doesn't mean you have an excuse to not do it. It might be harder for you than your neighbor but at the end of the day *you* are responsible for your health and your weight. Don't blame it on anything else.

As for chemo weight gain, I'll quote it straight out of a medical manual.

CHEMO WEIGHT GAIN

What is weight gain?

Most of us in the United States, and likely the rest of the world, are familiar with weight gain. It is very common as we age and, in most cases, is both expected and normal. However, some chemotherapy may contribute to weight gain. Weight gain after chemo may happen for a variety of reasons including:

Less activity. People tend to exercise less while taking chemotherapy.
Eating more. Some medications actually increase the appetite.
Increased fatty tissue. Some chemotherapy regimens may contain steroids. Steroids can cause fat deposits to develop (often between the shoulder blades). Some people also experience a round or full face. These side effects occur most often with long-term steroid use is expected and will go away once steroids are discontinued.

Do you notice anything? None of these are out of your control. None.



When you experience chemotherapy for yourself and feel so much like hell that you can't even summon the energy to get out of bed, perhaps you will understand why chemotherapy patients have diminished physical activity.


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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox


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ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower


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ORIGINAL: hotlikeafox

I know many people who have gained weight from chemo and steroids as well. Most people do. But I can assure you that that is not an excuse to be fat.

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Less activity. People tend to exercise less while taking chemotherapy.


Maybe you will be unlucky enough one day and will have to go through chemotherapy...then don't forget to show us on youtube how much you would be exercising whilst going through chemotherapy and it's side effects [8|]




Even on a 3 month treatment cycle you will not go from a healthy size to the size of most people here even with *zero* activity.




You are referencing two distinctly different situations as if it were one.




LanceHughes -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/20/2011 10:26:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
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But let's get back to the troll bashing! LOL!

ETA:  See... I changed the thread title to help .....

I can NOT keep the title changed if y'all keep quoting messages that have the original title




DeviantlyD -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/20/2011 10:38:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
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But let's get back to the troll bashing! LOL!

ETA:  See... I changed the thread title to help .....

I can NOT keep the title changed if y'all keep quoting messages that have the original title




So sorry! Sheesh! I posted from page 7 (or was it 8?) and didn't realize the title change 'til my reply popped up on freakin' page 15!!!

And you're right, you know...about the title. I thought the OP was going to be about something witty and funny. Sadly, such was not the case. I feel so...exploited...hold me??

:D




ranja -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/21/2011 1:08:04 AM)

oh man... i nodded off and now he's gone... gimmerism does have its drawbacks i suppose... ahwell




purepleasure -> RE: This place is lol (4/21/2011 2:50:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

$2000 says old and overweight will happen to you in your time as well. 

Count me in on this for 1500




thishereboi -> sorry Lance...won't happen again (4/21/2011 3:46:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
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But let's get back to the troll bashing! LOL!

ETA:  See... I changed the thread title to help .....

I can NOT keep the title changed if y'all keep quoting messages that have the original title



so sorry[8D]




gothikbutterfly -> RE: This place is lol (4/21/2011 5:10:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

diamond & butterfly, it would be a pleasure to see my gear go to such good use.  You would be welcome here anytime.  



AWESOME-NESS! and there's so much to use....so many different choices! Can i safely assume that you would be joining in too RS? [;)]




tazzygirl -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/21/2011 6:28:36 AM)

Just fixin the title for ya!




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/21/2011 6:36:38 AM)

But, but, what happened to the OP? I need him to tell me how fat and old and diabetic I am this morning so I get off my duff and get some things done around here.

I know he's profile says he's sub, but I think I can mold him into the perfect dom.




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/21/2011 6:39:22 AM)

15 pages in one day? And now we've lost our playtoy?  Awwww where did Hammy go?

I've know plenty of firefighters and EMTs, none, regardless of age have been this behindular in their attitude.  And for those EMTs who've come to me on more than one occasion after a 911 call, I'm just thankful they've been respectful and helpful.

And if someone were to make any of the comments OP has to me in person?  They'd wake up on the ground and wonder how the hell they got there.  It's easy behind a computer, it's not so easy face to face. 




gothikbutterfly -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/21/2011 6:39:24 AM)

To be perfectly honest with you, I don't think he could cut it as a dom OR sub with an attitude like that.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/21/2011 6:47:08 AM)

It was a joke, sweets, I do that.




favesclava -> RE: Only reason we're up to 15 pages is OP title (4/21/2011 7:07:50 AM)

this was a great treat after a long nights work at a subacute unit where cancer patients put up a great fight against the ravages of the poison being used in attempts to save their lives. most are unable to even reach for a callight let alone walk far enough, fast enough to burn off any calories.
the post by all these lovely ladies was just the right thing to make me smile. ladies youre beautiful, not because of your looks amazing as all of you look. your intelligence,your way with words , just amazing.




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