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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/23/2011 8:03:55 PM

Lucylastic

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K call me iggerent, but why on earth is a 22 year old allowed anywhere near such govmnt secrets? to the point he can leak them? he is a private? I realise many guys are doing all kinds of secret nasty deadly stuff, hush hush etc, but isnt that a huge fucking sign that there is a security flaw within the establishment.
Arent somethings like government secrets sposed to be yano a lil bit more special secret not for eyes of the uninitiated or the untested ?

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/23/2011 8:04:04 PM

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Patriot Act Authorizes Biological Agents Against US Citizens?

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/23/2011 9:00:51 PM

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This was Mr. Novak's source. It's explained in this article.

Robert D. Novak - Armitage's Leak - washingtonpost.com

By Robert D. Novak
Thursday, September 14, 2006

When Richard Armitage finally acknowledged last week that he was my source
three years ago in revealing Valerie Plame Wilson as a CIA employee, the former
deputy secretary of state's interviews obscured what he really did. I want to
set the record straight based on firsthand knowledge.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/13/AR2006091301572.htm l

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But what official in the employ of the President told Mr Novac??

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/23/2011 9:09:36 PM

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Let me try again to get the link right.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/13/AR2006091301572.html

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/23/2011 9:15:57 PM

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I am trying to picture Novak in a cell- naked for 24 hours a day.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/23/2011 9:19:54 PM

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Why? I don't think he did anything wrong, I may be wrong but I think he was just doing his job as a journalist.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 4:57:41 AM

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And the issue is

STILL THE SAME

After all these years.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 5:00:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

K call me iggerent, but why on earth is a 22 year old allowed anywhere near such govmnt secrets? to the point he can leak them? he is a private? I realise many guys are doing all kinds of secret nasty deadly stuff, hush hush etc, but isnt that a huge fucking sign that there is a security flaw within the establishment.
Arent somethings like government secrets sposed to be yano a lil bit more special secret not for eyes of the uninitiated or the untested ?

As a 23 year old E5 I had access to stuff a lot more sensitive than what Manning is accused of leaking. That is simply the nature of the military. People in their late teens and early 20's make up the majority of the personel.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 5:41:38 AM

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And you know what Ken, they took the best years of your life. Have you been compensated for fighting for the rich MFs who impel our puppets to start wars ? Are you familiar with one Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler ? You might find his writings interesting.

Anyone who serves in the military gets fucked over. There may be the exception here and there, but that is not the rule. You yourself have brought news in here to that effect.

It's not wrong to be proud to do it, or have done it, but it is not a good carreer choice.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 6:59:04 AM

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And you know what Ken, they took the best years of your life. Have you been compensated for fighting for the rich MFs who impel our puppets to start wars ? Are you familiar with one Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler ? You might find his writings interesting.

Anyone who serves in the military gets fucked over. There may be the exception here and there, but that is not the rule. You yourself have brought news in here to that effect.

It's not wrong to be proud to do it, or have done it, but it is not a good carreer choice.

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Good post. But Ken has ego. His ego wont admit the mil is as you say. A hired thug for big biz.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 7:28:22 AM

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quote:

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And you know what Ken, they took the best years of your life. Have you been compensated for fighting for the rich MFs who impel our puppets to start wars ? Are you familiar with one Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler ? You might find his writings interesting.

Anyone who serves in the military gets fucked over. There may be the exception here and there, but that is not the rule. You yourself have brought news in here to that effect.

It's not wrong to be proud to do it, or have done it, but it is not a good carreer choice.

T^T

Actually the military made it possible for me to get a great college education after I got out so I felt I got a good deal. I got to see places I likely would not have seen any other way and made great friends that are still my close friends 20 years later.

There were bad aspects to service but for me they were far outweighed by the good aspects.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 7:36:41 AM

KMsAngel

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it's on topic, really....
it's entitled "Bad Ass-Ange" by French artist Xavier Ghazi
us aussies, so irreverent

sorry, it came up huge, had to link to it. Assange. leaking.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 7:47:00 AM

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Well lucky you lived. No agent orange ? No DU ? Great.

But you know as well as I do that they will take their budget cuts out on you rather than themselves. They are scum. I see them as scum and you like to call "liar", that's fine. Call it on them. Because it is they who promote the biggest lie.

If you're not familiar with Butler, in his writing after serving, decorated and had a really decent rank, he was not happy when he figured out that he was working for an oil company. He was not happy at all about it. He fought in central and/or south America mainly I think. I believe he resigned just about when it was time for another promotion.

For a "company" Man to speak out like that indicates that he really was pertubed about it. These days they would just drug him up. This shit l hapened before either one of us were born. It has been going on for a long time and if anyone has any idea of stopping it, better pack a lunch. It is not going to be easy. I fact many see the beginning of history at certain times, like the British empire or the formation of the US, but the fact is that this shit has been going on for at least five thousand years.

No new law or Constitution will ever change it, the change will come from the people, all six billion.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 11:16:53 AM

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You wish to condemn and belittle people who serve. I will not co-operate with that.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 11:21:00 AM

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^ not those who served- he is mocking the corporate masters.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 11:21:50 AM

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You wish to condemn and belittle people who serve. I will not co-operate with that.

You phrased that better than I would have, Ken.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 11:28:15 AM

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quote:

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You wish to condemn and belittle people who serve. I will not co-operate with that.

You phrased that better than I would have, Ken.

I'd rather not get a time out for the brief pleasure of telling termy off.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/24/2011 1:33:13 PM

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Yeah Term- you mean bully you! How dare you tell people the game is rigged. Off with your head!
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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/25/2011 3:44:57 AM

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13184845

Myself and others have been saying this about Gitmo for ages.

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RE: Q. Where are all the wiki leaks? WHERE - 4/25/2011 8:35:31 AM

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Polite- when we throw money at a problem there will never be a permanent solution. Because it is more profitable to maintain and continue the problem for which results in money.

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