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Frustrated couple - 5/9/2006 5:26:02 PM   
irvinecouple949


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Status: offline 		We're a long term MDom/femsub couple that has run into a situation. After an accident, a couple of surgeries and months of physical therapy (now those people are sadists!) it is becoming pretty obvious that we just won't be able to do anything involving her kneeling or putting any significant weight on her knees for more than a couple of minutes. Unfortunately, that pretty much takes out most of our favorite play modes. We've tried some of the obvious alternatives but it just doesn't have the same impact, and it is getting pretty frustrating for both of us. Is there anyone in a similar situation that has some suggestions?
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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/9/2006 5:31:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		 This may have resources or others that could lend advice (even though its a bit different than what you described). 
http://kinked.org/


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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/9/2006 5:34:27 PM   
catize


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Status: offline 		Have you considered a kneeling bench? 

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/9/2006 5:35:32 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Well I'm not in a similar situation but have a suggestion.

Look around for a buddhist prayer stool, they allow you to kneel without putting any weight on your knees.

I found a similar one to the one I have at this link
http://www.jcpweb.co.uk/wooduever/images/folding_stool.jpg

you can see they are pretty easy to make.
The only difference between mine and the one in that pic is the seat part in mine is slanted forward, so the two side pieces would have a diagonal slope when making it.

< Message edited by slavejali -- 5/9/2006 5:39:25 PM >

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/9/2006 5:40:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		We've had a few threads on this. These might help:

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/9/2006 6:20:24 PM   
theRose4U


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Status: offline 		I used to have a secretarial chair that had you kneeling forward but it put no pressure on the knees and especially the lower back. It had the ability to fold up to go under a bed or lower depending on the height of the desk.
I would think that being caring dominants that you would be able to be creative and work with your girl to allow her to serve in a capacity that her body allows.

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/9/2006 6:57:07 PM   
Sinergy


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Status: offline 		I coached my kid in softball, and the catcher had a pair of pads which slipped onto her calves so that she could kneel for long periods of time without injury or pain.

Go to a sporting goods store, cough up a lie about some over X league, and buy a set :)

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/10/2006 4:21:37 PM   
badpaliden


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Status: offline 		 Have you thought about a sling? dont knwo what your living space is like but a swing is an easy thing to put away and wont take up much closet space.

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/10/2006 5:40:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please don't think I'm being sarcastic, but it doesn't have the same impact because you haven't gotten your head around the fact that it isn't kneeling, it's having one lower than You---
 
( when I sit you shall sit, when I kneel, you shall kneel, when I ...)--- even sitting lower than You keeps the dynamic---so have her sit, or lay prostrate--raise Your chair, stool or bench---if she can't kneel for a few minutes, she won't be able to kneel at all---padded or not--you may need to take to standing more to keep her at a comfortable level--
 
food for thought.

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/10/2006 6:16:16 PM   
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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 8:43:42 AM   
irvinecouple949


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Status: offline 		To those of you that had suggestions (or links to suggestions)- sincere thanks. Some of these look like good possibilities. We had actually looked into a sling before all this happened, but hadn't come up with a way of explaining the big hook in the ceiling to the short people that will be living with us for a while yet. Guess we could put one hell of a hanging plant in the middle of the room . . .

To those of you who chose to criticize- a few things. 1. If this had been an issue from the beginning there would be no problem. However, after well over a decade of in inventive and relatively carefree D/s exploration we suddenly have to be very careful. This doesn't change the underlying relationship, but it is requiring a period of adjustment. This is part of that process. 2. There is a lot more to kneeling than relative head height and overt display of submission. Most female superior and many rear entry positions are now, well- problematic. It is telling that you do not understand this. 3. Don't try to derive insight into a complex relationship's dynamics from a simple, straightforward request for information on a limited topic. Like the man said, "it ain't so deep as a well".

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 9:00:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hope you find something that works for you both.  Keep trying new positions, too - you might find something that gives a whole set of different possibilities. 

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 3:34:47 PM   
SirKenin


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Status: offline 		My wife has arthritic knees, making it almost impossible to do certain tasks on her knees.  For instance, she can not kneel before Me or it causes entirely too much pain, not to mention she can not get up on her own.

We found that mattresses and plenty of pillows really help.  She needs plenty of cushioning in order to be comfortable.  Perhaps give that a try.  Just be very patient.

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 3:53:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		When we faced this because of complications related to MS, we had a bench built that looked very much like a "horse" (the kind they use in gymnastics). It was padded with sense-foam (like what those beds are made of) and covered with real leather (because it breathes and cleans well). It had hand-rests at the front, so "activity" didn't push the person on it out of position. It was expensive, but worth it. We had to custom design it ourselves and a friend of ours made the blueprints for it. He may be selling them online... he called it a "position form". On the bench, I was able to position myself so that I was in a similar position to kneeling in a posterior approach, but the weight was balanced between the balls of my feet and my hands/arms on the arm rest. It worked great for us, even when I had no mobility at all on one side of my body due to flares.

Perhaps with this description, you can get a local scene woodcrafter to build you a similar device, to your specific measurements.

LZ

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 4:22:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		ok- this may be way out there but here's a shot----get some thick foam and make a donut. exp: like when 1 has hemroids- but make 2- 1 for each knee- thus the foam supports the thigh area around knee- and she is STILL kneeling

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 5:42:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: irvinecouple949

To those of you who chose to criticize-


I must have missed the criticism. I saw some good suggestions and a little thinking out loud about whether you could shift perspective a bit. Your frustration is obvious. I hope the suggestions here help.

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 5:52:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Since you said she could kneel for a minute or two, can she first kneel, then sit to one side?  That way you both get the kneeling effect but for long-term, she is still "close" to kneeling, but actually sitting, with her feet tucked under her.

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 8:12:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: irvinecouple949

We're a long term MDom/femsub couple that has run into a situation. After an accident, a couple of surgeries and months of physical therapy (now those people are sadists!) it is becoming pretty obvious that we just won't be able to do anything involving her kneeling or putting any significant weight on her knees for more than a couple of minutes. Unfortunately, that pretty much takes out most of our favorite play modes. We've tried some of the obvious alternatives but it just doesn't have the same impact, and it is getting pretty frustrating for both of us. Is there anyone in a similar situation that has some suggestions?


What "obvious alternatives "  have you tried?

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 8:30:08 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear irvinecouple949, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
First, I am sorry to hear about the difficulties that are interrupting normal aspects but, it is just a matter of creating a new normal.
 
To the issue of suspension, perhaps you can put together a free standing frame made of the plastic pipe in hardware stores. Much like an oversized "hamper trolley/dolly."  It really is just a tube square or rectangle.  It can be disassembled for storage. Depending on the style of sling, to which a horse's stall guard works extremely well; in addition to ones on the kinky markets, you can add loops to the hangings, such as chain, using double end snaps (found at tack shops) and or panic snaps (pull and release snaps) that are designed for horses so the torque strength is able for humans.  You can also manipulate the sling by adding pillows as to fit into those womanly curves.
 
Rolling a soft picnic blanket and use on the shins as she kneels is also a thought.  Using a sleeping bag roll is also an immediate thing to use for your lassie to lean across or length wise. 
 
At times you can find children's playground equipment, the strap like seats for a swing.  Getting a few of those can be of help.  Just modify with a strap to connect and keep them set as to create a "I" leather sling, as to allow her mums to hang free, she can support herself with her arms and upper chest and on her belly area.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Frustrated couple - 5/12/2006 8:42:04 PM   
GMRTGS


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Status: offline 		We find Bean bags works great they do not have many limitations and it has worked for both of my disabled slaves. When my third slaves gets here, she just had knee surgery she will be using the bag as well try it you never know. 

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