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gungadin09 -> RE: The Care and Feeding of Trolls (4/30/2011 1:17:37 AM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Fair point, but there are also cases where it it blatantly obvious that people are here just to stir crud. If a person comes to a BDSM website just to say how everyone needs therapy for being interested in wiitwd or how all sadistic males are really just abusive pricks using this as a cover, I kind of expect them to get nailed.
i try not to have a problem when such people get nailed. i try to remind myself that it's the internet, which means that *everyone* is entitled to their opinion, and that the right to express a controversial opinion is NOT limited to the OP. Everyone else is just as entitled to express their opinion about the OP's opinion. i don't always succeed, but i try to keep in mind that some people are just asking for it, and it's no surprise when they get it. Well, i try, anyway.
i don't really have a problem with an offensive or stupid OP getting nailed. i think that the overwhelming majority of comments are fair. However it does bug me (yes, so help me, it does) when the question of whether involvement in BDSM is unhealthy and indicates the need for therapy, or whether the majority of people in poly relationships *shouldn't* be, or people's opinions about financial domination... it bugs me that there are certain subjects that posters just won't take seriously.
i understand that many times the OPs of those threads are just whining, and they that expect everyone to validate their views and agree with them, and then they're offended when it doesn't happen. i understand that it's unreasonable to expect forum members to be nice and fair and polite to a person whose being whiney and stupid. If that is the case, then have at them.
But i don't understand why the question of whether or not participation in BDSM is evidence of some kind of pathology, for example; why that question can't be asked in such a way as to merit serious consideration. Why most posters seem to just *assume* that the OP is a troll, and so it's okay not to take the thread seriously. Like i said, i understand that many times the OP's own behavior is the reason why they're not taken seriously. That is most often the reason why people get nailed. But occasionally, occasionally, it's not. On a question like that, i know how *i* would answer. But, depending on how thoughtfully the question was asked, i might also think it was a valid question.
i'm not thinking of any particular thread or poster when i say that. And i understand that this is the internet, not church, and people will be, well, *people* and not saints. But i have sometimes seen a kind of gang mentality develop when someone is perceived as a "troll", and it's sad when that interferes with what might otherwise have been an interesting debate. Like i said, it doesn't always happen, or even usually happen. But occasionally, it happens. Personally i think labeling an OP as a troll and hijacking their thread- i think *that* is usually far more disrespectful than anything the OP did. And i say, if you (generalized "you") think the OP is a troll, just don't post on the thread. But to post only to deliberately ignore the topic and take the thread in a new direction- to me, *that* is trolling.
Another poster said it best:
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ORIGINAL: imperatrixx
"tacit groupthink that enjoys batting around the op" is called trolling.
an op who posts retarded shit isn't a troll. unless he's being trollbait and trying to get trolls to respond. then he is a troll trolling trolls.
If the OP asks for it, then by all means dish it out. But i sure wish that you (generalized "you") would at least "dish it out" on topic.
pam
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