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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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Keynesians

you are talking about those guys right?

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ORIGINAL: MasterRichard326

CHECK THE FACTS: IN 1933, Roosevelt put the country into National Emergency on March 9. He took all the Gold and Silver and shipped it out of the country to the International Bankers. The US was BANKRUPT. There is no money. The constitution says that money is Silver and Gold. What do you have in your wallet? Federal Reserve Notes. The Rothschilds, Vatican, British Crown, Rockefellers all worked together to take over the world and they got it, or so they think.

The US has been put under the UN. Interpol is above all the US police forces.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

RealO, did you ever stop to think that that is the problem ? Look at them. I have given my opinion of you, and I guess we see eye to eye on quite a bit. I have a different way of going about it, but what is it ? I think you are taking my advice a little bit, backing down so as not to scare the sheeple away. (dont think so its the snarkers who leave in a huf when they are blown away with irrefutable facts, sheeple are usually open minded) But you can only back down so much. Back down too much and you will be agreeing with them.

It is time for you to learn how to teach.
(I do to a point) I don't care how smart you are, this is a separate issue. Understand, I should probably just mail you this, but I will put it out here because if people who do WIITWD have secrets, it serves no purpose. Teaching and delivering knowledge are two totally different things. You have the knowledge but even you know that you don't have it all sorted out yet.

Now the idea of teaching is not to give someone the idea, it is to impel them to come up with the idea on therir own.
(then again cram it down the throats of the snarkers.  Those who want the information will look past the snarkers and my approach and take it for what its worth those who do not will not in any case anyway) What you do does not do that. What you do is fine for people who have studied all this shit for twenty years,
(beginners need hard cases even more so in the beginning to unequivocally make the point.) but as we both realize (I hope) is that we have to get more people to think, to question, to learn. And you can't spoon feed them documents in which the Ts look like Fs. It simply doesn't work. We have both read the Constitution I am sure, but did you read a true copy ?
Yes I read what is presumed to be a true copy, however I do not belive it is as it was all re-scribed in 1860's.  The originals all spelled persons like this: perfons.
I mean like a life size picture of it. It looks different, the letters are different. Now scholars may argue that this has something to do with the meaning,
Absolute does. The grammar is way beyond most english teachers today.
but the regualar dude on the street has no conception of it. AND THAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM. You don't need the equivalent of four law degrees to understand the basics.
Sort of but not quite true the greater part was written in a manner that most people would grasp in the vulgar, however the words do not mean the same in law "of the time".
The basics have been "interpreted" for the masses. Rights become priveledges via license. Ownership becomes tenency via perpetual land taxes.
Yep may as well be edicts from the KING.
See, it does no good to illustrate this point in old archaic law, (archaic law is the basis for law today, it has not changed, just the words have been obfuscated by corruption for the maintenance of power and strangle hold on the people.
For instance people erroneously think that the articles of confederation were obsoleted by the constitution and they were not.  If they were the united states could not exist in law! it would have been repealed! its here therefore the AOC os valid and standing to this day!) what we need to do is to get the basic fucking idea into people's heads. Everybody kinda knows it is not right. We know more than most. But it is not in the specific facts that the answer lies, it is in the spirit of the whole shebang.

And if you want her, let her go. I mean if you want to experience true ownewrship realize that you can own nothing. (that would be expereincing true control) Maybe in a way that is setting your goals lower, hopefully to a reachable level. But the thing is not to cede the ownership to a government, fuck them, they didn't make the land nor the sea, nor even the air we breathe yet they attempt to charge us for it at every turn. They have no right or authority over it EXCEPT by cnstructs in law and faking people out so they agree to go under the guv as a citizen so the guv has the right to control them yes VOLUNTARILY byt their own CONSENT.

So while most "feel" the sense of ownership in holdong a title or a deed, they don't realize that it is an illusion.
Correct, if you fail to pay the tax assessment they will foreclose on the mortgage that the GUV has against our property, NO that is not the same as the morgage from the bank. No one has a clue.  Mortgage is a dead pledge. to those who are into law big red flags should be going up right now!  LOL )  I bought this house, and supposedly the land on which it is built. Supposedly. If they can tax me, I am nothing but a renter, a mere tenant.
Correct, the sovereign king of england has paramount ownership over the land in england and in the states my state in particular the sovereign king WISCONSIN that was not good enough! They gave themselves ULTIMATE ownership rights over the land within their jurisdiction which of course is within said boundaries. of the For now it works for me. But the true fact is, if I am paying by the year to keep the place, under threat of explusion from my home, I really don't own it. In fact noone can. Those who charge me that 'rentes' own it right ?   Emminent domain a complete violation of the 5th amendment but because you are a citizen they can change the rules at will.

Wromg. They just have a better illusion of ownership, and the bigger they are the harder they fall. (oh I agree with the illusion of ownership, I have seen it with my own 2 eyes on property tax foreclosures it right between the eyes states it!   Unfortunately people have their crook attorneys interpret the crap for them and there is no money in telling you the details and in fact most people do not want to hear the details anyway! Their mind goes out on tilt LOL)  What if the Chinese walked in tomorrow and said "We own every square inch of this country" ? What do you think would happen ? I know. Absolutely nothing.  (we are already there, who ever owns the debt eh...)


We didn't make this planet. In some places they want to crank up the taxes if you have a solar panel or a windmill. Now they claim to own the fucking sun. They have never even been there but I wish they would go and stop over there, and be burnt to death.They "own" the wind, the land, the air and the sunrise. Or do they ? It is us who gave them that power. No we gave them limited power and we the dummies that we are let then usurp to their hearts content and now we are living under what can only be best described as mafia rule. The power of illusion, that they are somehow entitled while we are not. It is we who are fooled. Well maybe not us per se, but people in general.

that is what the game is about. pure propaganda and syntax terrorism at the highest levels.

The cracks in this scam are starting to show, and more and more people see it every day. And "they" know it. They know their time is coming to an end, and that is called armageddon. I submit that if the old texts' portent is accurate, that it is the end, but for them not us.   You are correct, the internet is the great leveler.  Its not that people are stoopid (for the most part) the greater majority want to learn and understand what its all about, and the internet has open that pandoras box and the well hidden fraud is now out in the open for all to see and all they can do is try to slow it but they cannot stop it that is why the mad rush to get monumental guv programs in place for the next round of vassalage while they still can.

Based on my studies, sooner or later the human race will find that they do not need all the bullshit, and that will destroy the economy worldwide. But what does that mean ? Well I am here to tellya.

First off they do not need an economy! LOL  That is a king construct of greed in the first place.

They call a good economy one in which there is alot of commerce.

Sure commerce is all regulated by the guv... more money for them with every exchange, no longer can you exchange your hoe for a kettle to SURVIVE they made it commercial so they can tax your survival!

They have their sticky fingers in everybody's pies,
Yes! and anytime money moves they rake off a hit, just like a meat slicer set to shave. Lately, because of their hubris they have set the slicer to a much thicker setting. It may just be hubris, but it might also be that they know the end is near - for them. I have read revelations quite a few times, and I can see this. The end really IS near, but not for us, for THEM.

All we can do is teach, and feeding knowledge does not equal teaching.
Its far to involved to "teach".  That could only be accomplished in the schools which I understand some universities are veering toward better education now that the HEAT IS ON them. But we MUST. Now, to accomplish that, we don' teach like the public schools, by memorization and quotation by rote. We must excel. and no matter what you teach, don't forget the last part. The truth is you can no more own this planet than a single grain of sand or a blade of grass. You didn't make it, in a way we are all squatters. The plastic in the monitor you now see, it came from oil. Did you make the oil ? NO. You paid for a finished product, basically for the time and effort to put it together, but don't kid yourself, you do not own the materials, because those who sold you this plastic junk didn't own the materials. You cannot sell what you do not own. We are all guilty of recieving stolen poperty. There is alot more to that, but that is for another thread.
Oh the contraband issue that is way over these peoples heads they still havent figgered out the money aint real and everything has been hypothecated and fractionalized LOL
So if we give up the illusion, what happens to the people who think they REALLY own it. They didn't make it either, but they have alot stronger illusion than we. But the simple fucking fact is tht we cannot shatter their ilusion without first shattering our's.

Later. People at the door.

T^T

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Yeah Rich!   Don't you know that the dollar is as good as gold!   HA

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: MasterRichard326

CHECK THE FACTS: IN 1933, Roosevelt put the country into National Emergency on March 9. He took all the Gold and Silver and shipped it out of the country to the International Bankers. The US was BANKRUPT. There is no money. The constitution says that money is Silver and Gold. What do you have in your wallet? Federal Reserve Notes. The Rothschilds, Vatican, British Crown, Rockefellers all worked together to take over the world and they got it, or so they think.

The US has been put under the UN. Interpol is above all the US police forces.

Sad how you can't get even the most basic facts right.

When precisely did FDR force people to turn in their silver? Why were Silver Certificates in circulation after that date?

By false advertising the way the guv does everything.
when he stacked the supreme court, HJR192 need the supporting public law and statutes as well?

When precisely was the many hundreds of tons of gold shipped overseas? On what ship? To where?

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: MasterRichard326
CHECK THE FACTS: IN 1933, Roosevelt put the country into National Emergency on March 9. He took all the Gold and Silver and shipped it out of the country to the International Bankers. The US was BANKRUPT. There is no money. The constitution says that money is Silver and Gold. What do you have in your wallet? Federal Reserve Notes. The Rothschilds, Vatican, British Crown, Rockefellers all worked together to take over the world and they got it, or so they think.

The US has been put under the UN. Interpol is above all the US police forces.

Sad how you can't get even the most basic facts right.

When precisely did FDR force people to turn in their silver? Why were Silver Certificates in circulation after that date?

By false advertising the way the guv does everything.
when he stacked the supreme court, HJR192 need the supporting public law and statutes as well?

When precisely was the many hundreds of tons of gold shipped overseas? On what ship? To where?

many ships
mostly germany

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: MasterRichard326
CHECK THE FACTS: IN 1933, Roosevelt put the country into National Emergency on March 9. He took all the Gold and Silver and shipped it out of the country to the International Bankers. The US was BANKRUPT. There is no money. The constitution says that money is Silver and Gold. What do you have in your wallet? Federal Reserve Notes. The Rothschilds, Vatican, British Crown, Rockefellers all worked together to take over the world and they got it, or so they think.

The US has been put under the UN. Interpol is above all the US police forces.

Sad how you can't get even the most basic facts right.

When precisely did FDR force people to turn in their silver? Why were Silver Certificates in circulation after that date?

By false advertising the way the guv does everything.
when he stacked the supreme court, HJR192 need the supporting public law and statutes as well?

When precisely was the many hundreds of tons of gold shipped overseas? On what ship? To where?

many ships
mostly germany

I think what DK is looking for RO (and MR), is EVIDENCE. Not the ramblings of some lunatic. Real, hard evidence that supports your arguements. If you have no evidence, be a man and admit it.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: MasterRichard326

CHECK THE FACTS: IN 1933, Roosevelt put the country into National Emergency on March 9. He took all the Gold and Silver and shipped it out of the country to the International Bankers. The US was BANKRUPT. There is no money. The constitution says that money is Silver and Gold. What do you have in your wallet? Federal Reserve Notes. The Rothschilds, Vatican, British Crown, Rockefellers all worked together to take over the world and they got it, or so they think.

The US has been put under the UN. Interpol is above all the US police forces.

Good post!  Welcome.

Many Keynesians here.

Hoard silver!

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ORIGINAL: MasterRichard326

CHECK THE FACTS: IN 1933, Roosevelt put the country into National Emergency on March 9. He took all the Gold and Silver and shipped it out of the country to the International Bankers. The US was BANKRUPT. There is no money. The constitution says that money is Silver and Gold. What do you have in your wallet? Federal Reserve Notes. The Rothschilds, Vatican, British Crown, Rockefellers all worked together to take over the world and they got it, or so they think.

The US has been put under the UN. Interpol is above all the US police forces.

Oh, jesus christ, another one. Can't we just start a special forum for these people?

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

A new guy comes in- and instead of debating the point-  yous jump on him.

Rather then learn from an exchange of ideas- you rather conclude he is crazy and not worth the time of day.

Consider tho that TARP means you house, job and retirement has been stolen.  Even as I post this food prices up noticably- this IS a de facto currency devaluation- it is theft out of your pocket.  Every time you pay higher prices- the grid has stolen from you.

But most here want to beleive if we just get the certain party in the White House- that things will be rosy!

Wake up!    Both parties are on the Wall Street team.

What do you need to see?  TARP was the siren!    TARP has not been repaid- as now programs that YOU are on- are being cut to pay for bankers fraud.  This fraud is a robbery to you- it steals food off of your table of your family!

People.   Get a clue.

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Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 8 - Powers of Congress



The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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Paper Money

The Constitution does not directly mention paper money, a staple of today's economy. It does give the Congress the power to "coin money," however. The Constitution does prohibit states from issuing "bills of credit," but no such prohibition is in place for the federal government. What does this mean? Is paper money unconstitutional, but coins are okay? Things That Are Not In the U.S. Constitution

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: MasterRichard326

CHECK THE FACTS: IN 1933, Roosevelt put the country into National Emergency on March 9. He took all the Gold and Silver and shipped it out of the country to the International Bankers. The US was BANKRUPT. There is no money. The constitution says that money is Silver and Gold. What do you have in your wallet? Federal Reserve Notes. The Rothschilds, Vatican, British Crown, Rockefellers all worked together to take over the world and they got it, or so they think.

The US has been put under the UN. Interpol is above all the US police forces.

Good post!  Welcome.

Many Keynesians here.

Hoard silver!

Hoard aluminum!