LadyPact
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
But let's say I give you the benefit of the doubt on that. It's irrelevant.
Trimming here in an attempt to get to the point.
Seriously, I'd be happier if you didn't take My word for it. Confirm it by your own methods. I can promise you that what I've told you on the subject isn't unique. Ask some of the female Dominants that you know if you can't take My word on the matter.
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It really is a case of "methinks the lady doth protest overmuch". And to be sure, the same problem exists with some of the self-identified male dominants here, but it seems nowhere near as prevalent.
Which, oddly enough, was the sum of one comment on this thread before My name suddenly was being dragged into the thing, or at the very least, My prior sig line. Kind of a chicken shit move, but if you want to try to call it chicken salad, be My guest.
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The purpose of the paragraph was to illustrate how Doms disdain - and are ostracised for - the kind of behaviours which are de rigeur for Dommes. That essentially part of the dichotomy of my thinking on male vs female subs is tied into the behaviour and standards of the type of individuals to which they submit.
I didn't think that had jack to do with it considering that's not even what the question of the original was. The OP doesn't ask about Dominant woman at all. It asks about a prejudice regarding male submissives as a category of people. Had the same original been written with race or religion specified, rather than an orientation, there would have been no doubt that it was an obvious attempt to get folks to answer in the affirmative because they are basing it on a stereotype.
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Now, I probably should have known better.
Yeah, you probably should have, but I'm not going to hold it against you. I'm actually going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know that I wouldn't have the opportunity to address your remarks directly there for a bit. (Not the case for everyone, but we'll leave that.) Ironic that the male submissives on this thread tangled with you in My absence.
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What basically this thread tells me is that there's a lot of incomplete people around here who demand that everyone thinks as they do.
You do draw some funny conclusions. Care to hear some of Mine?
It's somewhat amusing that My name got drug into this thread, not based on the comment that I made on it, but for completely different reasons. In fact, I didn't see anybody debate My theory on the reason some male Dominants might have contempt for male submissives at all. The personal attack bullshit was just....... well, bullshit. Backhanded, cowardly bullshit in some cases, but the Mods already took care of that, by My understanding.
Anyway, back to the point. I'll share something with you that most female Dominants know that a number of male Dominants don't get much first hand experience with. There are far more chest thumping male Dominants out there who secretly have a desire to submit than I think many people realize. There are various reasons for that. One of the major ones is that they just aren't strong enough to do it. They're too worried about image and ego so they take the easier path. They can't handle being who they really are and would rather be what people expect them to be. I've watched people whose self loathing ate them up over it. Are they happy now that they changed roles? It depends on your definition of it. Happy in what they settled for as a Dominant, but not happy if you think of what they could have had.
In My personal opinion, the numbers game plays into this in the category, too. It's just not that easy to cut it as a male submissive looking for a Dominant woman. It's certainly not a 1:1 ratio by any means. There have always been fewer women on either side of the kneel, but the numbers do get a little better for male Dominants looking for a female submissive than those of a male submissive looking for a female Dominant. In short, they gave up and that drives the bitterness that they have for male submissives who have been able to obtain what they were not able to achieve.
It's important to remember that the male submissives on this thread don't have the status quo experience of the average male submissive. Unlike the participants here, most males submissives don't have a number of Dominant women lined up to throw their hat in the ring. The guys on this thread are by far the exception and not the rule. The average male submissive isn't always going to win the numbers game. When they don't, where do you think they go? They either give up and go vanilla or they go to the other side of the kneel.
By the way, if you actually want to discuss how the numbers game effects the advantages of Dominant women that Dominant males don't have, I'll happily participate in the discussion. You might even find us on the same side because I've been saying that for years.
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