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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/29/2011 8:47:40 AM   
LaTigresse


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I have contempt for the question. The whole concept is abhorrent.


It's all good bubba..... most of us kinda find you contemptible and abhorrent. It evens things out.

I am not a sub guy but I find many people contemptible. Quite a few of them are males of the species that believe they are dominant.


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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/29/2011 8:54:18 AM   
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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/29/2011 11:50:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		This IS an interesting question. It call for a fair degree of self examination.

Hello A/all,

Perhaps that is why some people express contempt for the whole concept.

I do find some dominant men to be... ...Creepy to be around! They remind me of those cock sure know-it-alls that think that they have a lot of knowledge on a limited subject. You know the guys that I am talking about... The ones who interrupt your conversation to dispute some minor detail.

EEWWHHH! It calls to mind a time when some guy was expounding to me upon the lift capabilities of... of... helicopters EEHHCCHH! (one of my two biggest turn-offs)!

I don't think that contempt is (at least apropos of myself) is the right word. It's just a strong dislike of certain personality traits that some of these guys seem to exhibit. Further, I cannot help to feel some pity for these guys. They will never know the beauty of a truly PROPER D/s relationship such as the one that I share with my mistress! :-P

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/29/2011 11:59:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Contempt for dominant men or contempt for doms? Dominant male personalities serve their purpose in vanilla life - I can occasionally be a bit dominant myself when the situation calls for it - so no, no contempt, although they are sometimes arrogant pricks. Doms in BDSM on the other hand are always arrogant pricks.

Ok, I jest a bit. Suffice it to say I don't care for doms, although contempt would be too strong a word. Better to say that their outlook doesn't sit well with me and the attitude they more or less have to adopt to play their role does smack of arrogance.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/29/2011 12:39:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't make generalizations, other than that there are people from all orientations and both sides of the kneel that I can live my life without interacting with and be just fine. These tend to be people who think they have to "prove something" in order to be recognized. I gravitate toward self-confidence and authenticity, and have been honored to have found that amongst all orientations.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/30/2011 9:35:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't have contempt for someone unless they actually did something to deserve it, such as murder, child molestation, etc. Just being an arrogant prick isn't enough to break that barrier, although I probably wouldn't be hanging out with someone who was an arrogant prick.

However, in light of this and other threads I've seen, it makes me wonder if there's a "one size fits all" idea at work to some degree. For example, one of the male dominants in the other thread mentioned that he's seen male submissives at events and has nothing in common and wants nothing to do with them. But I would wonder why these very disparate groups which ostensibly have nothing in common are going to the same events where some groups will have contempt for other groups?



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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/30/2011 4:35:29 PM   
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I don't personally. I think a lot of them are swell. Some of my best friends are dominant men!


Maybe sub men have contempt for Dominant men, because deep down they want to be alpha males...but can't even seem to live up to beta.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/30/2011 5:15:45 PM   
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I have contempt for the question. The whole concept is abhorrent.

It's a fair question. I have known submissive men who have professed a measure of distaste, even contempt, for dominant men. I don't happen to agree with it, but I did find myself curious as to whether any of the men here harbored similar prejudices. I feel like if we can discuss these prejudices reasonably out in the open and throw a little rationality and some good ol' fashioned PMA (positive mental attitude) its way, we can make a change for the better.

Well the irrationality of this is that you and nobody else really knows a man (or most anybody) is dominant until you've witnessed it. Until you have seen him either inspire submission in someone or is accompanied by one who appears to submit to him in someway...he's just another man. Even then contempt would be irrational in itself, him still presumably being a stranger.

In any case there is little foundation to assess dominance unless you speak of those who have such alleged contempt only for men who come to the Internet to digitally proclaim their dominance.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 4/30/2011 6:42:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subbykat


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I don't personally. I think a lot of them are swell. Some of my best friends are dominant men!


Maybe sub men have contempt for Dominant men, because deep down they want to be alpha males...but can't even seem to live up to beta.


Actually, I believe that to be more true of many, self proclaimed, dominant males.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/1/2011 7:24:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't want to comment on this thread because it poses a question that gives licence to people to trot out their prejudices. I'm not generally interested in people's prejudices because prejudices are worthless. Still, for the record: No, I don't have contempt for dominant men, any more than I'd have contempt for people who have a preference for different style of music to my own. That'd be cretinous of me, and I try to arrange not to be a cretin if at all possible. I really don't see why there should be more to it than that. Not unless certain dominant men (and sub females) - and I know there are some - want to attach more to it than that.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/1/2011 10:02:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		As a straight male, you obviously have no problem with dominant women. And as a straight male, i would think your interaction with male dominants would be limited except perhaps as they relate to submissive women.

As a gay submissive, i certainly have no issues with male dominants who are either gay or straight. We all have our place. My very first bdsm expierences were with female dominants. It was actually through a MISTRESS that i was introduced to my first time with a male dominant.

As a sub, i always try to be respectful when in the presence of my superiors. That includes dominant females, dominant straight males, and dominant gay males. i consider myself very fortunate to have been able to serve at one time or another, all of the above.

i have no problems with dominants of any gender or orientation. And as i stated in another thread, i have no problems with male submissives whether they serve women or other males.

Whether we are gay, straight, male, female, dom or sub, we each have that switch that gets flipped by the right person

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/1/2011 2:39:29 PM   
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...prejudices are worthless...That'd be cretinous of me, and I try to arrange not to be a cretin if at all possible.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Any hatred, of any kind, of Katie Price is always completely rational.





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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/1/2011 2:48:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yay for that whole answer Peon. Don't you hate it when you look in the mirror and there's this cretin looking back at you? I find that really distasteful so, like you, seek to avoid it -- not always successfully ~sighs~

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/1/2011 3:05:51 PM   
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...prejudices are worthless...That'd be cretinous of me, and I try to arrange not to be a cretin if at all possible.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Any hatred, of any kind, of Katie Price is always completely rational.



Right, well . . . chap can try, though not always succeed, eh?

Thanks for zeroing in the really crucial subject of this thread which is, of course, Katie Price. Appreciate that.


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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/1/2011 3:19:23 PM   
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Yay for that whole answer Peon. Don't you hate it when you look in the mirror and there's this cretin looking back at you? I find that really distasteful so, like you, seek to avoid it -- not always successfully ~sighs~


Sorry, can't relate to that comment, Jeff. I missed whatever point you were trying to make with it. I'm clear that I'm not a cretin, but maybe I'm a bit on the dim side tonight.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/1/2011 4:00:10 PM   
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I don't personally. I think a lot of them are swell. Some of my best friends are dominant men!


Maybe sub men have contempt for Dominant men, because deep down they want to be alpha males...but can't even seem to live up to beta.


Or maybe it's because sub men recognize a poseur when they see one.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/2/2011 5:31:29 PM   
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I do find some dominant men to be... ...Creepy to be around! They remind me of those cock sure know-it-alls that think that they have a lot of knowledge on a limited subject. You know the guys that I am talking about... The ones who interrupt your conversation to dispute some minor detail.


The behavior you describe sounds more like a response to insecurities than of confidence or dominance.  This is how I expect insecure people to behave.  There are many men and women with insecurities who claim to be dominant, but they always seemed more like bullies than dominants.  It's actually are kind of frightening to think of someone like this with a submissive partner.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/3/2011 9:30:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have none. In fact, I have much respect for all dominant figures, but I know I'll never be one, not in any true sense.

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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/3/2011 10:05:00 PM   
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Doms in BDSM on the other hand are always arrogant pricks.


You say this like it's a bad thing :-)


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RE: Sub guys: Do you have contempt for dominant men? - 5/5/2011 9:48:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		It depends:

If a guy is naturally assertive, articulate and has his act together, generally I have no problem with them. 

However, if they are dipsticks with a self-image problem that are trying to show the world they are a big man, chances are I won't like them.

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