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RE: kneeling - 1/12/2005 10:09:28 PM

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Thanks for the links, Lawrence and stef, for the kneeling benches. I was actually about to do a search for those for meditation purposes and I love the idea of using them for other purposes as well!! (And my knees will thank you as well, lol!!)

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RE: kneeling - 7/2/2005 10:43:25 PM

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I just discovered this chat page and am learning so much new information. I am 42 years old, but there is so much about myself that I have not understood before and reading the posts here is very enlightening.
About kneeling. Reading that this is a light form of bondage activity is very interesting to me in light of the fact that I seem to be getting closer and closer to orgasm each week during my meditation class as we sit and kneel for an hour. I have been not sure if it was God or my attraction to my yoga teacher. Maybe it's both. Whatever it is, it is incredible.

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RE: kneeling - 7/2/2005 11:31:24 PM

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The pins and needles type of feeling is what you get when blood rushes back into your extremities.

When sitting "Indian style" you are blocking the blood flow to your calves and feet. When you stand up you release the pressure and allow the blood free circulation.

If you have poor circulation to begin with you'll have the pins and needles pain even without kneeling or sitting cross-legged. Try holding one arm above your head... or resting your arm on something a bit higher than your head. Do so for a while. Eventually your arm will go numb. Again, this is a problem involving circulation. The blood has to fight harder to travel against gravity and up into your arm.

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RE: kneeling - 7/3/2005 1:27:55 AM

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Thrombophlebitis can occur in any vein, but it is most common in the leg veins. Clots in a deep leg vein (deep vein thrombosis) are serious because a clot can break loose and travel through the bloodstream to the lung (pulmonary embolism). Symptoms of deep vein thrombosis include swelling, pain, and possibly redness in one leg or a noticeable new difference in the size of one leg. Another symptom of deep vein thrombosis is pain when walking or when the foot is flexed upward.

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RE: kneeling - 7/3/2005 6:32:41 AM

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I have to kneel for Master for greeting but it slightly different that yours ..I am up on knees, hands behind back head bowed..I find this much more tolerable than the sitting position as it allows for blood flow to feet...even though I am allowed small pillows under knees, they are still red and hurt from the prolonge time in this position. Master bought me some gardening mats that are cushioned and seem to be helping tremendously..not the most fashionable things but as long as I can kneel properly and not have to shift around and I can be as still as He wants .,, what does it matter....

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RE: kneeling - 7/3/2005 10:16:56 AM

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maybe you can shift about slightly just a bit so the circulation gets to your legs better....
i'm sure you can do quite a lot of moving around and yet still be in that position....
personally, i can make my body numb 99% of the time if i want to.... so im used to that anyway... hahaha

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RE: kneeling - 3/4/2009 3:20:46 AM

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Decided to bump this thread after searching rather than start a new one.

This one seems to have a similar but slightly different problem when kneeling and it's a constant pain just above the knees/lower thigh whenever this one "sits back" onto his heels. This discomfort starts immediately so any tips/practices will be much appreciated.

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RE: kneeling - 3/4/2009 5:06:08 AM

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"first practice does make perfect and the technique We use to train nadu is start with a pillow under your ass, between your ankles and ass...gradually work up to a book, then nothing at all. Squats with some weight baring will help to build the thigh muscle, which will then hold Your weight so YOu are not resting it on Your ankles.

hmm, ok i just tried this and i have fairly strong thighs. conclusion: after a couple of minutes the thigh muscles supporting the whole upper body would burn like hell. the knees would start to compensate a little and hurt like buggery and you could, in theory tear a ligament.

and i dont see how sitting on a pillow or book is going to help you develop muscles either - if that were the case people would stock up on pillows and tear up their expensive gym membership.

need more info - theres gotta be more to that technique

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RE: kneeling - 3/4/2009 5:38:37 AM

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Well this is a good thread to waken! i suffer with my knees too, but from the fact i broke the same one twice and i have bad circulation... i have found however, that the more i practise the better i am getting; i can manage about five minutes now lol! Sir does understand however and let's me just sit on a cushion at His feet (also to block the drafts coming through the floor boards lol!)

You are right though, there must be more to that technique...interesting...

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RE: kneeling - 3/4/2009 6:17:26 AM

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For me personally, lots and lots of yoga helped with stiffness and blood flow all over. i practice daily to stay limber. Also, if i will be kneeling on a hard floor (something like concrete or hard wood), i may ask to tuck a pillow under my legs, not at the knees but under the ankles. That helps.

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RE: kneeling - 3/4/2009 1:59:51 PM

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This one seems to have a similar but slightly different problem when kneeling and it's a constant pain just above the knees/lower thigh whenever this one "sits back" onto his heels. This discomfort starts immediately so any tips/practices will be much appreciated.

Your thigh muscles may need some routine stretching to accommodate this position. Perhaps googling some basic stretches and incorporating them into your exercise routine would help?

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RE: kneeling - 3/4/2009 3:44:12 PM

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Can't kneel these days, arthritis has seen to that, but there are ways and means to keep kneeling without too much stress.

Years ago i used to do hatha yoga, and one of the asanas(positions) used was called vajrasana, the diamond pose, one that could be adopted for a period of time without stress. Maybe taking up yoga might help, or at least doing stretching and flexing exercises before a session could help with stamina.

i would also look at kneeling mats which would help lessen the impact of prolonged kneeling, as well as possibly not kneeling for as long in on go, but changing position before the numbness really sets in, and then going back to it later in the session.

What you have to pay heed to is that the damage to the knees, and the crush syndrome chemicals that you release into the body after each session can have a cumulative effect, both on the knees themselves but on the renal system, that and the possibility of damaging any varicose veins trapped whilst kneeling, and the possible resulting DVT.

Lessening the time kneeling at one go, altering position, using a kneeling pad, all should help. As for the rest, so long as you take care you should have aeons of kneeling time in front of you!

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