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Ive already said that it was a good thing, mike. I dont agree with Obama taking full credit, after all he is using an apparatus he roundly criticized and pledged to dismantle in order to accomplish it

However since I am feeling generous I will give Obama credit for reneging on those promises and for apparently growing up some when he saw the realities that Bush faced

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In 2009, Seymour Hersh claimed the special operations group that took down Osama bin Laden on May 1 was Cheney's "secret assassination ring.":

"After 9/11, I haven't written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven't been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us."

The point is that during the Bush administration many on the the left were so far out of line that yes, they were seriously foaming at the mouth about the work that they are boasting about the results of today. The work or our CIA operatives, our president and his administration, even our military and special forces.

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Maybe he is trying for a job at fox?

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979284192

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Maybe he is trying for a job at fox?

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979284192

"The first part would be excusable if this sort of thing didn't happen over and over on Fox News. The second part, in which they explicitly mention the President with his title, is a fireable offense for the producer who allowed it onscreen.

This is simply one more example of Fox News' intentional use of "code words" to fire up the most racist, bigoted, extremist members of the Republican party and its tea party wing. It is a discredit to every one of the few legitimate journalists left on Fox's staff, and those journalists should immediately call on Roger Ailes to apologize in full force. They should also call for the immediate firing and censure of the producer involved.

All Americans should be disgusted by such blatant exposition of hatred."

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Hersh, Olbermann Called Bin Laden SEAL Team "Assassination Ring" In 2009

How about you. Were you as enthusiastic about the work the Seals were doing  in 2009 as you are today?

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle
That was in 2002, less than 6 months after 9/11.

Bush dropped the ball. Obama picked the ball up and carried it across the goal line for a touch-down.

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As an Obama Supporter and I am that, to say that he did this is a misnomer. The timing and situation were right and he got to make the order. The CIA and their sources and then the Seal Team that went itn did this! Yes, happened on Obama's watch, but W would have given the order if the chance had existed as would Clinton although he had the chance it was pre 9/11. as would have Bush 1 or Reagan. Obama is a good man, and Ihave faith in his abilities but, it was a bit of luck, planning and skill of those we have in positions to do such things, that made this happen. Thank God for those talented folks out there like the Seals, Rangers, Mountain Brigade etc. along with our intelligence agencies!

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As an Obama Supporter and I am that, to say that he did this is a misnomer. The timing and situation were right and he got to make the order. The CIA and their sources and then the Seal Team that went itn did this! Yes, happened on Obama's watch, but W would have given the order if the chance had existed as would Clinton although he had the chance it was pre 9/11. as would have Bush 1 or Reagan. Obama is a good man, and Ihave faith in his abilities but, it was a bit of luck, planning and skill of those we have in positions to do such things, that made this happen. Thank God for those talented folks out there like the Seals, Rangers, Mountain Brigade etc. along with our intelligence agencies!

I disagree.

Obama was right on top of the possibility that the Abbottabad residence was OBL's hideout.  He worked with the military top brass to determine which method of attack would be needed,  He authorized a black ops procedure that would have caused major repercussions if it went south.

Yeah, his life was not on the line, but he made a call that would have resulted in him being a one term President if it went awry.

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As an Obama Supporter and I am that, to say that he did this is a misnomer. The timing and situation were right and he got to make the order. The CIA and their sources and then the Seal Team that went itn did this! Yes, happened on Obama's watch, but W would have given the order if the chance had existed as would Clinton although he had the chance it was pre 9/11. as would have Bush 1 or Reagan. Obama is a good man, and Ihave faith in his abilities but, it was a bit of luck, planning and skill of those we have in positions to do such things, that made this happen. Thank God for those talented folks out there like the Seals, Rangers, Mountain Brigade etc. along with our intelligence agencies!

I disagree.

Obama was right on top of the possibility that the Abbottabad residence was OBL's hideout.  He worked with the military top brass to determine which method of attack would be needed,  He authorized a black ops procedure that would have caused major repercussions if it went south.

Yeah, his life was not on the line, but he made a call that would have resulted in him being a one term President if it went awry.

Not saying that he didn't take chances, not saying it didn't take balls just saying yes, he made the right move and it paid off. To say it took Obama to do this, as though someone else in his position wouldn't have done so I disagree with. Given the opportunity most of our President's would have done so. I give him his due credit, I just have a problem with the way this topic is labeled and I disagree with the premise.

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McCain said that?...Had no idea....where and when?

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You would have arrive at a basic understanding of the points I made before you can possibly even begin to dispute them, rml, and youre not there yet.

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Ted Kennedy Barack Obama Bin Laden


Ted Kennedy was a part of the conspiracy before he kicked it as as well [:D]

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I see that, not so sure I would take him at his word after all the I know how to get Bin Laden stuff prior. Who knows? Still and all I believe most any of the recent Presidents would have done the same thing. I do applaude Obama's decision and appreciate the risk in doing so.

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"John McCain says in almost every stump speech that he knows how to capture Osama bin Laden and that he’d follow the al Qaeda leader to the “Gates of Hell.”

So Washington Wire was wondering, what does McCain know that President Bush and the Pentagon don’t about how to sweep up America’s most elusive enemy.

“One thing I will not do is telegraph my punches. Osama bin Laden will be the last to know,” he said today while riding on the back of his bus between Florida events. In other words: he’s not telling.