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Owner59 -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 6:39:17 PM)
Barberism, is what we`re fighting .

gothikbutterfly -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 6:40:40 PM)
There are acts of barbarism happening on both sides. Its not a one sided fight

Owner59 -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 6:50:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gothikbutterfly There are acts of barbarism happening on both sides. Its not a one sided fight True,but let`s shoot high and hope we don`t succumb to temptation. It`s not that bad things won`t happen.It`s how they are reacted to it. My biggest beef with the Catholic Church wasn`t the hundreds of thousands of rapes and molestations committed against young girls and boys,it was the cowardly,lame,almost criminal way the church dealt with it ,allowing the same douche-bags to get at kids for years,...decades and helping them to escape the law and justice. No one would have ever believed that the Catholic church would have fallen to such a low state as they are in.It was the leadership or lack of it, that let it get out of control. If you have leaders openly promoting barberism(like cons are now,in the media),it won`t take long before we`re doing things just as evil as what bin-laden did.

ResidentSadist -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 6:58:39 PM)
Ya' know, I'm just glad they didn't miss. I am sorry they did a double tap and killed him instantly. Had I been the shooter, I would have started with his ankles, then his knees and worked my way up so the shot to head was last. My version of a 40 minute fire fight would have involved much screaming from one man in particular. He was lucky it wasn't done Detroit gangster style . . . choke him to death . . . then CPR. Rinse and repeat so you can kill him over and over again until he is too weak to come back.

pahunkboy -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 6:59:26 PM)
If you have leaders openly promoting barberism(like cons are now,in the media),it won`t take long before we`re doing things just as evil as what bin-laden did./snip BINGO!

ResidentSadist -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:04:26 PM)
When a person that try to kill you, or marks you for death like Osama's doctrine did, whatcha' gonna' do, give him a "time out"? Someone threatens or tries to kill you, you should probably kill him back. Just sayin'

Owner59 -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:05:51 PM)
Not get`n yer point PA. Got one?

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:11:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven He was alleged to have resisted. No explanation of what that meant. "Surrender!" "No!" BANG Good enough for me.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:12:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy So that trumps the Constitution? I thought it was the Constitution that we were fighting for. The AUMF was in accordance with the Constitution. Why would you think otherwise? Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:16:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: gothikbutterfly There are acts of barbarism happening on both sides. Its not a one sided fight If you have leaders openly promoting barberism (like cons are now,in the media),it won`t take long before we`re doing things just as evil as what bin-laden did. Huh? Clarify, please? Firm

tj444 -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:17:37 PM)
Well, I watch some tv shows on Hulu and there is one called Ultimate Force about one unit of the UK's SAS (Special Air Service) which is another very elite force like the Seals, etc. In nearly all of the episodes I watched, they killed the bad guys even when they were already down on the ground and already hit & helpless, they still did kill shots. They made sure those guys were dead. Then they moved on to continue until all the bad guys are dead. Now I know that is TV and who knows how realistic it is. But, it may be that in real life it is fairly standard to just kill the targets and not screw around with wounding/taking them alive. It would be interesting to find out if that is the case. Even tho that was tv, I found it really weird to watch, to see the soldier (one of the good guys) go up to someone bleeding on the ground and unable to move and shooting another one or two bullets into the guy, the soldiers would do it without hesitation. Anyway, I can understand doing that in real life too, its kill or be killed and you dont want to assume someone is subdued only to have him shoot you dead. As far as OBL goes, there would be split second decisions made and to hesitate can mean you give him the few seconds he needed to grab a gun from a drawer or under a bed or cookie jar and shoot you dead instead. I can see the soldiers simply not wanting to take the chance with their lives and being safe rather than sorry. They want to go home to their families in one piece.

Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:17:57 PM)
I am still waiting to see what court determined OBL guilty of anything LOL wait shoot first and let god sort em out! got it! we are americans murder is ok as long as its sanctioned

pahunkboy -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:21:16 PM)
444, split second? I thought the raid lasted 40 minutes?

cuckoldmepls -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:21:59 PM)
That's ok, those 3,000 people in the towers didn't get a jury trial either. I guess he wasn't the warrior he liked to think he was. Typical Islamic coward. Let other people strap the bombs to themselves and do the real fighting while he makes propoganda videos.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:27:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy So that trumps the Constitution? I thought it was the Constitution that we were fighting for. The constitution applies to Americans. I'll quote one of the unofficial mottos of US special forces. "Fuck with the best, die like the rest"

pahunkboy -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:31:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy So that trumps the Constitution? I thought it was the Constitution that we were fighting for. The constitution applies to Americans. I'll quote one of the unofficial mottos of US special forces. "Fuck with the best, die like the rest" So would it be different if he was killed here in the US?

SilverMark -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:34:21 PM)
No court needed he was considered a biligerent in a war...International law wasn't broken, the Pakastani's are not complaining about it taking place in their country...the bastards dead, our guys did it and for those who disagree...go protest... join the other side...declare jihad...grow a beard, wrap your head in cloth....buy your girlfriend a burka...put a bomb in your shoe and try to board a plane....become a human sheild for the next one we have to shoot...become a suicide bomber in the middle East....you get the picture....I have few other suggestions but, some of the goofs that post here aren't worth getting moderated for.

FirmhandKY -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:34:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne I am still waiting to see what court determined OBL guilty of anything LOL No court required. He was an avowed enemy of the nation, who declared war on us, and then attacked us, murdering thousands. His "trial" was when the US Congress passed a resolution giving him what he wanted, and then treated him just the same as any other enemy combatant. In war, failure to surrender when demanded means that you have chosen to remain hostile, and therefore deadly force is within the law. He was asked to surrender. He declined. This made him a valid target for deadly force. A target which was then serviced properly and legally. End of fucking legal theory. You are the great "legal researcher", go look it up yourself. quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne got it! we are americans murder is ok as long as its sanctioned Legally, it's not murder when it's done in accordance with the law. Firm

Hillwilliam -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 7:34:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy So that trumps the Constitution? I thought it was the Constitution that we were fighting for. The constitution applies to Americans. I'll quote one of the unofficial mottos of US special forces. "Fuck with the best, die like the rest" So would it be different if he was killed here in the US? In the US, FBI or local law enforcement would be after him and he would be subject to American law. Remember, the CIA doesn't operate on American soil. On foreign soil. Fuck with the best, die like the rest.

Owner59 -> RE: Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says (5/3/2011 8:01:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: gothikbutterfly There are acts of barbarism happening on both sides. Its not a one sided fight If you have leaders openly promoting barberism (like cons are now,in the media),it won`t take long before we`re doing things just as evil as what bin-laden did. Huh? Clarify, please? Firm Peter King (R) NY is spreading the same BS rumor that water boarding,ie. torture, got us good intel and was justified. cheney pulled this shit and got his ass slammed as the liar he is. All this pro torture talk isn`t about making America safer. It`s about cover for cheney`s and bush`s lame ass`s.

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