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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Barberism, is what we`re fighting .

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Q: What went thru Osama's mind when the SEALs showed up?


A: An American made bullet.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I am still waiting to see what court determined OBL guilty of anything  LOL

wait shoot first and let god sort em out!

got it!  we are americans murder is ok as long as its sanctioned

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

High inflation?

A 1.6% average inflation rate in 2010?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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Bin Laden was unarmed when killed, White House says

Abbottabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Osama bin Laden was not armed but did put up resistance when U.S. forces entered the compound he was in, then killed him, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday.

Providing new details of the events that transpired early Monday in Pakistan, Carney said U.S. Navy SEALs went floor-to-floor clearing the three-story compound where bin Laden's family lived along with others.

Three people were killed on the first floor, including a woman, Carney said.


U.S. forces then moved upstairs where they found bin Laden in a room with a woman believed to be his wife -- both unarmed, Carney said. She rushed the U.S. forces and was shot in the leg but not killed. Bin Laden resisted and was shot and killed, Carney said.

On Monday, President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, said bin Laden was resisting and had a weapon, though he added that it was unclear whether bin Laden had fired a shot.

Bin Laden was unarmed when killed

Not that it means much, but this is the official word, which will probably have people up in arms about killing an unarmed man.


My argument about this is simple, the people in the world trade center and pentagon or on any of the jets were not armed, in point of fact, most victims of terrorist attacks are not armed.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I am still waiting to see what court determined OBL guilty of anything  LOL

No court required. 

Really?  Law of nations? Rules of war? nothing? Geneva? Nuremberg? 

just shootem dead?

Wait US = God? got it!

He was an avowed enemy of the nation,

yes the nations avowed him to be the enemy

who declared war on us,

Lets see the declaration

and then attacked us,

Lets see the proof that HE attacked us, that must be in some court case somewhere?  all that proof of what you claim?

murdering thousands.

I dont recall?  How did HE murder thousands?

His "trial" was when the US Congress passed a resolution giving him what he wanted, and then treated him just the same as any other enemy combatant.

Wow kool, lets see the evidence presented before the court and findings in fact and law to support that claim

In war, failure to surrender when demanded means that you have chosen to remain hostile, and therefore deadly force is within the law.

What war?  again lets see that documentation to support your claim.

that means BLACK INK ON WHITE PAPER not innuendo supposition propaganda and drama queen media hyperbole

He was asked to surrender.  He declined.  This made him a valid target for deadly force.

What jurisdiction did the US have over him or the nation he resided in?  Lets see the treaty that gave the US jurisdiction and the COURT that ordered him to surrender or was this another one of those MOB WITH GUNS democratic moves?

A target which was then serviced properly and legally.

Not a man?  Just a target?  Legally?  I keep asking for you to show me ALL THAT LEGALLY!

I have not seen anything LEGAL!

All I have seen is bullshit and the national Rah Rah team!

End of fucking legal theory.  You are the great "legal researcher", go look it up yourself.

ZZZzzzzz

suppport your claims jumior, aint gonna get it both ways!  You made the legal claims and put your dick on the chopping block now put it up.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

got it!  we are americans murder is ok as long as its sanctioned

Legally, it's not murder when it's done in accordance with the law.

Firm

which law is that Firm?  Who's law is that Firm?

You have so much BS in your post above, I can see that your vaunted "legal research" ability is apparent, not Real.

You are confusing "international law" and national jurisprudence.  Not the same thing at all.

Really?  Explain precisely how I am confusing the two?  I am not.

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Try these links:

Osama bin Laden's declaration of war

Bin Laden's Fatwa
August 1996

The following text is a fatwa, or declaration of war, by Osama bin Laden first published in Al Quds Al Arabi, a London-based newspaper, in August, 1996. The fatwa is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places."

Osama bin Laden Claims Responsibility for 9/11

Bin Laden Admits 9/11 Responsibility, Warns of More Attacks
Oct. 29, 2004, 5:10 p.m. ET

A tape aired by Al-Jazeera television Friday showed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden admitting for the first time that he orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and saying the United States could face more.

US Declaration of War Against Osama bin Laden et al

Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists

The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists (Pub.L. 107-40, 115 Stat. 224, enacted September 18, 2001), one of two resolutions commonly known as "AUMF" ... was a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress on September 14, 2001, authorizing the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the attacks on September 11, 2001. The authorization granted the President the authority to use all "necessary and appropriate force" against those whom he determined "planned, authorized, committed or aided" the September 11th attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups. The AUMF was signed by President George W. Bush on September 18, 2001

Everything citation in your above citation quote is bullshit.

You show me certified documentation not this puppy chow media bullshit koolaide you put out here for the "court of drama tards"

OBL was a combatant, or well within the grey area, away from "noncombatant".  The Law of Land Warfare says that he if he surrenders, he must be protected.

Prove that he was a comnbatant!  Where is the indictment?  There is non!  Fucking prove your claims.

He was given the opportunity, and apparently declined.  This made him a threat, and deadly force is an appropriate course of action.

By a little mob who chose to use him as their scape goat?  Until you can prove it there is no more to that story and everything you post is just static and nouise.

Whether or not he was given very long to change his mind, or whether they tried "hard" to convince him, or whether or not he might have had weapons or the ability to cause harm to US soldiers is immaterial.  As far as anyone knows (or knew), he had a trigger device for a Paki nuke in his hand.

You don't give an enemy the opportunity to kill your soldiers.

Combatant.  Failure to surrender.  Deadly force.

None of your "legal" bullshit has anything to do with what happened.

Firm

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LAWFULLY you cant just stand on a soap box and declare someone a combatant WITHOUT PROPER EVIDENCE.  There is such a thing as DUE PROCESS.

A MOB gathering making a resolution to murder someone is not DUE PROCESS.

By whatever label you want to put on them.

So show us proper evidence admissible in a real court, the indictment, and explain why the fbi never listed him as wanted for 911?   

You have a problem.

With a bold red banner and the long-awaited word -- "Deceased" -- the Federal Bureau of Investigation retired Osama bin Laden from its Most Wanted lists early Monday morning.

The terrorist mastermind was the only individual at the time to occupy both the FBI's 10 Most Wanted Fugitives list and its Most Wanted Terrorists list -- a testament not only to the extreme threat that bin Laden posed but also to the bureau's shifting priorities in the years leading up to and following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Bin Laden became one of the FBI’s 10 most wanted fugitives on June 7, 1999, after being indicted in absentia in a New York court for his alleged role in the 1998 embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. He joined the ranks of alleged murderers, rapists and drug traffickers, because at the time the 10 Most Wanted list -- a 60-year-old FBI program designed to enlist the public in capturing outlaws -- was the most notorious ranking of criminals in the land.

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The Slippery Story of the bin Laden Kill


The early narrative of the assault on Osama bin Laden had him using his wife as a human shield and firing from behind her. Now we learn he wasn't armed.

 

Full article here

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Firm,troll feeding only exacerbates the problem.

I thought you learned that lesson from your stray-dog feeding experiences.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Firm,troll feeding only exacerbates the problem.

I thought you learned that lesson from your stray-dog feeding experiences.

I know, O59, I know ... I've just not been around here a while, and had the urge to participate.

I think I'll just let these "dogs" lie for now.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Heresy!

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The Slippery Story of the bin Laden Kill


The early narrative of the assault on Osama bin Laden had him using his wife as a human shield and firing from behind her. Now we learn he wasn't armed.

 Full article here