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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 1:38:11 AM   
Kedikat


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But your profile isn't even a seeking ones profile. There is a world of difference.


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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 1:45:22 AM   
NakedGirlScout


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Status: offline 		I don't think male profiles fail to achieve results... maybe women don't go writing tons of copy-cat letters to every male on the internet, a practice I've caught some men at.  But if there were no results, we wouldn't have all these happy couples!

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 1:46:14 AM   
RavenMuse


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ORIGINAL: Kedikat
Maybe another reason that serious profiles, male or female get little response, is the number of cyber masturbators on line, with no intention to get real.


I wouldn't say its a load of crap, the OP makes many valid points, the one thing I think she missed is the effect of what you point out there in your last sentance, on both sides of the coin. Far too many gameplayers and those who are truely seeking often can't spot each other in such a crowd.


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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 1:51:15 AM   
crouchingtigress


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Status: offline 		LOVED IT great job, honest, funny service minded, well written...very good job! *gives the puppy a gold star* ....hope your email works this time they say 3rd time is the charm....
 
I am happy to give profile reviews to any one that asks, I just request, for the sake of not hijacking this lovely thread, that folks email me from now on.

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 1:54:15 AM   
4u2spoil


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Status: offline 		I thought the original post was completely on point. But if you get a few quality lines in over a novel full of fantasies that can work as well. Some of the longest emails I've received have been copy and paste things that I'm pretty sure the guy came up with while searching for porn, and that can be as annoying as the ones that don't give any info. For me, as long as a guy has an intelligent answer to "what was it about my profile that caught your attention" a conversation usually follows.

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ORIGINAL: Kedikat

What a load of crap.
I see tons of the same things in females profiles.
A few of the tips sound like encouragement to lie or obscure.
I hope that profiles don't devolve to the level of " professional resumes ".
I so seldom hear women ripping other women about their pussy shots, but there are many on such sites.
And why should I spend a huge effort on an email that likely gets no reply? I drop a quick note, sometimes with something pertinant to their profile that struck me particularly( if they said much of anything in it ), and say to feel free to drop a quick reply. Occasionally a womans profile is inspiring enough for me to write more, and I do. Tit for Tat.
I do state quite clearly in My profile about sexual submission. I don't consider that a minor detail that we can get around to after I might have hooked you. Some consider sex and BDSM to be quite separate, I don't, so I state it clearly.
Maybe another reason that serious profiles, male or female get little response, is the number of cyber masturbators on line, with no intention to get real.



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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 2:32:12 AM   
allspicey


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Status: offline 		You are correct that none of my profiles show me seeking at the moment (Master recently made me pull my bondage one for awhile but it wasn't getting the intended results anyway).  I have always been available for chat and keep the profiles active for people who are interested in sharing on a different level.  Some people just like to share experiences and knowledge or make new friends.  Some people need a way to get known before they fit into the local scene.  Many people know I am active in the public scene and run discussion groups etc so it is a good way for new people to contact me who are interested in learning the local ropes.  Master and I often meet with new people for the first time and, if they are genuine, help ease them into the social circles at events and munches. (Before anyone says it, yes, this is a judgement call on our part. Oh well)

As for what is in female profiles, I don't see really what that has to do with how women in general react to what is in male profiles.  I know a good many men who are quite happy to perv at naked women body parts in profiles (Master included!) but few women who actually enjoy the same in men's profiles. It appears men and women are intrinsically different.  Go figure. 

spicey

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 2:50:26 AM   
Kedikat


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Status: offline 		Some things for women to consider in their profiles...

1: How many ex husbands you have. ( any restraining orders needed? Do they own firearms? How many? )
2: How many children you have from them and others. ( if you consider this an unimportant detail, I would wonder about your grasp of reality. )
3: What city you live in. ( I do not have a private jet to commute. I have a job and life I have to attend to. If I am such a warm loving caring guy, I might want to see you now and then. )
4: Are you really submissive? Or just casting that lure? ( submission may get the target what they want, ( for a while )but not what you really want. )
5: If you are " new to this ". Are you also looking for a 24/7, lifetime, soulmate in this? ( Just one of them is hard enough for the " lifestylers" )
6: If you just want sexy email, just say so.
7: Be brutally honest in what/who you don't want. It isn't really brutal. It saves time and effort for all. If you are a material girl, state the wage range and disposable income to be disposed on you. How tall or short you want. ( shhhh....how short and thin you will accept ) How old is too old? Or too young? subs have standards too. I appreciate a profile that lets Me know to not bother.
8: Tell what you like/dislike in the kink/sex department. In great detail. Talk dirty. Oooooooo yeah......I like that....

:) 

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 2:53:37 AM   
MsMacComb


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ORIGINAL: allspicey
First, remember you are one of literally thousands of men out there hitting on the women. 
Second, remember there are only hundreds of women profiles for you to be hitting on.  The ratio of women exploring bdsm to men wanting to explore bdsm is way out of kilter.
 

You have some good points but I would like to mention a couple things. First off there are more women than there are men, so the "ratio/odds" in general are actually in men's favor. The second thing is that the ratio of women exploring bdsm may perhaps be out of kilter on this site (and probably others) but not as much in real life. Granted many women are not going to go online to find a date/mate but that doesnt meant that our interests are all that much different than that of males. The approach, the style and the context of those relationships yes perhaps, but not necessarily the desire.

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 3:52:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I might write my next profile in pig latin, that way I'll be different.......

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 4:28:39 AM   
RavenMuse


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ORIGINAL: Level
I might write my next profile in pig latin, that way I'll be different.......


Pig latin? So your looking for Italian pork?


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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 4:28:45 AM   
tade


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Status: offline 		Well...That's 1 way to stand out. Not sure about the men's profiles except for our's. (we're a couple but everyone tends to think it's just me, so what the hell) But I'll say that we are shocked by some of the stories we hear from women on here. It's like that "fuckmeat" thing that was said a few posts back. The bullshit that y'all have to wade through to find someone that qualifies as normal (atleast by our standards) on here amazes me. Not everybody that checks out this site takes the time or interest in posting or conversing or anything else other than fishing and hoping to get a bite. Often wonder just what they would do if they ran into someone that wanted to be a piece of "fuckmeat" to some jerk off with a one line profile and zero nunchuk skills. Right of the bat...Hell she would even scare me..... 

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 4:33:17 AM   
Wulfchyld


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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 4:37:03 AM   
twicehappy


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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

Cause everyone is skeered of me.


Awwww, i am not skeered of ya' but i am collared and in love. I can think of a few others who are not though, you just have to learn to give them better directions.

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 4:39:36 AM   
Wulfchyld


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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

you just have to learn to give them better directions.


Are you kidding? Then they will know how to escape! Got to get them here in a blind fold and the their mine! *evil laugh here*

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 4:43:07 AM   
meatcleaver


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Status: offline 		Afte reading this thread again I've found myself rather amused because I can't help but think of all the mantras about honesty. I think the fundemental problem isn't so much profiles, as men and women want different things. On the whole men want sex and women want relationships. I think if people were brutally honest with their profiles no one would be contacting anyone so the sensible thing is to move towards the middle ground which is not being entirely honest.

I'm sure if I had the 'perfect' profile I still wouldn't get any bites here because when men and women coldly focus on the fundementals, they do want different things which is why I think, I have found more success in meeting women on sites that have nothing to do with relationships but common interests such as literature anf the arts or whatever. That gives people a starting point for discussion which may or may not lead to something more personal. When you immediately focus on a possible relationship people's defences and antenae are immediately up, so much so that even a potential perfect partner may be put off.

For myself, I do like a woman that gets down and dirty and likes a good thrashing but if I saw a profile of a woman wanting that, I think I would be put off. I'm more attracted to people who have interests similar to me. Sex and relationships are always obliquely negotiated early on and openly negotiated only when common ground has been found.

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 5:06:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Level
I might write my next profile in pig latin, that way I'll be different.......


Pig latin? So your looking for Italian pork?



Raven, that just sounds wrong lol.

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 5:27:34 AM   
GeorgiaBelle


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Status: offline 		A couple of things I forgot to mention:
1. I am really not seeking a "dominate" Master nor a "strick" one. If you can't see the problem with those two words are you really what/who you say you are?
2. Ending your very sparse profiles with orders are a pretty big turn off for me. Let me get to know you a bit before you demand anything. Hint: chances are if you are the "one" that the person is looking for demanding things will probably a moot point.

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 5:42:34 AM   
UtopianRanger


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Status: offline 		I'll tell ya what.... the ''creative mind'',  good ole' common sense and a little effort, will take a guy a long ways - Believe it  ; }



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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 5:45:00 AM   
Brandon72


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Status: offline 		Some good points for those who send cock pictures and one liners. However, I find the OP a tad disrespectful in the way it was worded. Which just falls short of male bashing (again). Why not just throw in a few  "why is a cucumber better than a man"  jokes?

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RE: Why Male Profiles Fail to Achieve Results - 5/11/2006 6:08:29 AM   
MadameDahlia


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ORIGINAL: ArchangelMichael

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rumtiger

May I ask a favor then? because I think i've followed most rules...can someone look at my profile and tell me if i'm doing something wrong?


Heh, I was going to ask the same thing! I keep thinking that the only reaspon someone wouldn't respond to me would either be because my profile is boring or they don't like my picture. Maybe we need a "rate my profile" function.



Your profile is honest and to the point while offering enough insight into who you are for any interested to strike up a conversation. However if you're emailing someone who isn't interested they're most likely to just hit delete without replying.

I don't want to sidetrack other posters about whether or not that's rude behavior or not. I think it -is and should- remain a personal thing with regard to that little matter. If someone wants to get bent out of shape (whoops, letting my thoughts on that show just a smidge) then that's their problem... er... way of responding. I'd rather move on to bigger, better, funner things - and people!

< Message edited by MadameDahlia -- 5/11/2006 6:09:30 AM >

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