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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/6/2011 4:22:15 PM

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This raid was a huge gamble. It could have blown up in Obama's face big time if they had attacked the wrong house, if Bin laden was not there or if the neighbors had all converged to destroy the attacking force like the did in Somalia.

Now you can't tell me with the huge risk that was taken here, that he didn't authorize the mission for political reasons. With his popularity going down the crapper he had nothing to lose.

If you need further proof where his true alliances are, all you have to do is ask why won't he release the photos? They are going to extract revenge regardless so why not release them. The answer is he is still catering to the Muslim world just as he has been doing for the past 3 years.

Sometimes you're an idiot. The same contingent calling for pics were the same ones saying he was weak on terrorism, even though he was launching more drone attacks than Bush did in two administrations.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/6/2011 4:25:39 PM

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This raid was a huge gamble. It could have blown up in Obama's face big time if they had attacked the wrong house, if Bin laden was not there or if the neighbors had all converged to destroy the attacking force like the did in Somalia.

Now you can't tell me with the huge risk that was taken here, that he didn't authorize the mission for political reasons. With his popularity going down the crapper he had nothing to lose.

If you need further proof where his true alliances are, all you have to do is ask why won't he release the photos? They are going to extract revenge regardless so why not release them. The answer is he is still catering to the Muslim world just as he has been doing for the past 3 years.

Sometimes you're an idiot.

Thats a very liberal use of "sometimes"

Cuck is another whacko in a world of his own. If the raid had gone wrong Obama had everything to lose.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/6/2011 6:32:19 PM

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Yes but not quite 100% because recognition of the divinity of Jesus Christ is essential in Christianity for one's salvation. He is quite literally another aspect of the Holy Trinity so with one faith seeing him as a phony prophet, another seeing him as a true prophet of a series and another seeing him another manifestation of true divinity, it can be said they are similar but different gods besides the very different teaching that accompanies each. In a sense the god of Judaism and Islam are closer because both just have one/singlular manifestation of God where neither see any of their holy prophets as divine - merely agents of that will.

Unitarians aren't Christians?

How interesting.

Some of them might object to that.

There is a branch of Pentacostalism called Oneness Pentacostal, they don't believe in the Trinity either.
"Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is one Lord."

Some people only define Christians as those who accept Jesus as their personal saviour.
Some people believe that Catholics aren't really Christians.

So, it may be your belief that Christians have to believe in the Trinity but not all Christians will agree with you, just as not everyone agrees upon what qualifies someone as "Christian".

It should be clear I was talking in generalised terms and didn't suggest unitarians are not Christians. There are of course quite a few theological variations in Christianity but the vast majority of Christians believe in Jesus as the son of God and that this is key to their faith. This is the case for Catholics, almost all Protestant and orthodox Christian groupings.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/6/2011 6:36:14 PM

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I got bad news for ya dude. Our god IS their god. Yup, same entity just spelled differently and worshipped differently.

But they are the bastard offspring.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 6:06:05 AM

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* Sighssss * how quickly we forget this is a jihad, a holy war waged against out beloved Christian nation. The real credit goes to our Protector and Avenger:

"He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:"

Come on, youse guys. Give credit where credit is due. Our God is stronger than their God! For heaven's sake, everybody knows that. Jesus guided the bullet straight to Osama's eyeball. SPLAT!

I got bad news for ya dude. Our god IS their god. Yup, same entity just spelled differently and worshipped differently.

Yup, someone fell asleep during his world religion class.

Muslims worship the God of Abraham and Moses and believe that Jesus was a prophet, along with Muhammad.
They differ in their belief of course that Jesus was the son of God.
They do believe that Jesus foretold the coming of Muhammed; that he was a precursor to Muhammad.

Yup, Jesus is mentioned in the Qur'an.
His birth, his life, and they believe he will return again.

The lineage of 6 major Prophets in Islam are as follows: Adam --> Noah --> Abraham --> (from Abraham came Isaac's lineage) --> Moses (and also from Isaac's lineage was Mary) --> Jesus
(On the other side of Abraham's lineage there is Ishmael --> Abdul Muttalib) --> Muhammad.

So, yes, same God, different name.

*sighs again* I thought it obvious that the post was meant to be taken with many grains of humour, sarcasm and irony. Apparently not. Mea culpa for not using the emoticon. So, here it is for the purposes of clarity.

It was just a joke, folks. Not funny when you have to explain them, I guess.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 6:58:21 AM

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From the cited article:

Osama bin Laden was a) killed by a unit overseen by what New Yorker reporter Seymour Hersh denounced as Vice President Dick Cheney's "executive assassination ring," which was b) sent into action based on intel derived from the now-outlawed "enhanced interrogation techniques," which were c) used on detainees captured during the George W. Bush administration, who were d) being held in now-outlawed "secret prisons" or in the intended-to-be-closed Gitmo.

President Obama's deputy national security advisor, John Brennan, confirmed that the death of bin Laden resulted from "a mosaic (of intelligence) appearing over time and by ... people who have been following bin Laden for many, many years." This explains why 81 percent of Republicans give former President George W. Bush "at least some of the credit" for bin Laden's death. U.S. security forces tracked and were able to kill bin Laden through the use of the discredited, maligned, and -- in some cases -- the discontinued terror-fighting policies and practices of Bush.
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a. So Cheney took a bunch of SEALs, which have existed for decades before Cheney held office, and called them an assassination team, and never did anything with them. Elder claims that this is an accomplishment for Team Bush. Riiiight.

b. Absolutely not verified. The intel was in fact obtained from the prisoners. Whether they were obtained from conventional questioning or torture has not yet been established, despite Elder's claim.
c. Correct. The detainees were captured by Bush.
d. Correct. The Bush prisons are illegal in many senses.
Lemme sum this up. Bush broke laws right and left, and produced actionable intelligence which he was too incompetent to use. Someone intelligent used what he produced, and was able to produce results. Then the idea is that because someone was fortuitously capable of working with the stuff Bush produced, Bush is now claiming credit for results. And almost 20% of the Republicans claim that Bush deserves no credit whatsoever.
That about right?

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 7:23:11 AM

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Hmmmm, let's see.

Who could have taken care of his bulbous parts like that?

Oh I don't know, could it be...................

SATAN?!

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 7:24:56 AM

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It's always good to see an intelligent black man reveal the hypocrisy of the democratic party. I love it.

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/larry-elder/2011/05/05/bush-led-bin-laden-dead-wheres-the-credit/

And it's always funny to see an unintelligent white man reveal the true nature of the Republican Party.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 7:25:21 AM

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I know who was responsible for his demi-bra, but am unsure of the name of the person that caused his demise (so I am halfway home to having the answer).

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:18:29 AM

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Actually...Dick Cheney thinks the credit should go to Obama's administration....

http://wonkette.com/444926/dick-cheney-thanks-obama-for-letting-him-outlive-bin-laden?replytocom=916289

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:24:03 AM

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Actually...Dick Cheney thinks the credit should go to Obama's administration....

http://wonkette.com/444926/dick-cheney-thanks-obama-for-letting-him-outlive-bin-laden?replytocom=916289

Wow, what a deceptive, hateful and racist article. You should be embarassed to link it.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:26:15 AM

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Why? Because it wasn't what you wanted to hear. I'm not in the least ashamed to link it, you should be ashamed to turn a positive into a negative. But...I consider the source.........................and move on

**edited to add, if you're referring to the part about a frooty looped negro beating him to the punch well....

A) Cheney didn't say that and
B) You missed the sarcasm there (again, its not for me to be ashamed of!)

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:32:06 AM

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Why? Because it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

No, because none of it is even close to the meaning of Cheney's complete statement.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:34:10 AM

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to answer the OP the media is responsible for condemning the man and gaining popular judgment (from american retards) without a trial.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:35:27 AM

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Oh, and I suppose you're the little voice in Cheney's head, there to decifer his words for him.

Face it, he said what he said.......like it or not. LOL

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:39:33 AM

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“We all owe him the same sense of satisfaction that I’m sure they feel.” Hmmm....pretty simple statement, not too hard to understand, sorry you aren't grasping it there OC
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54082.html <----more praise
http://news.yahoo.com/video/politics-15749652/25101856 <------ oops, is that even a more complete Cheney statement?

Boy....I just wonder how you could misunderstand it OC?

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:39:34 AM

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Oh, and I suppose you're the little voice in Cheney's head, there to decifer his words for him.

Face it, he said what he said.......like it or not. LOL

Read EVERYTHING he said, not what the pos you posted chooses to. There is no need to DECIPHER anything, his words are quite clear. You might want to buy a dictionary before you bother to read what he said, not only for your atrocious spelling, but because "continuum" is used, and you may need help with that.

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:47:30 AM

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PS By the way, that last one is the whole 6 minute interview, not hard to understand OC, come on, we know you can do it.

No one said that it was a collective effort, no one has said that Obama pulled the trigger, but if Cheney can congratulate him, there is something to it. Of course that is unless you think Cheney has gone soft?

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:48:05 AM

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He is weak on terrorism. If it were not for political consequences we would have already been withdrawn from Afghanistan and this Osama Raid would never have happened. You can't deny the fact that he didn't even vote for Bush's war on terrorism in the first place.

You people live in fantasy land.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/5/obama-got-bin-laden-just-like-nixon-reached-the-mo/

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RE: Who Deserves the Credit for Osama's Demise? - 5/7/2011 11:48:25 AM

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In the link Mark just posted...(in case your mind is still interpretting things that we should all interpret your way, the link he posted above is.... http://news.yahoo.com/video/politics-15749652/25101856

It's an even bigger kudos to the Obama administration, making me think you have problems interpretting Cheney's thoughts. FYI, I listened to EVERYTHING in the link is this post here (that Mark posted in post #56). I think perhaps, YOU should listen to everything he says.

That said...I don't waste my time with people who like to spin things to their way of thinking only. And I do happen to agree that we do need to stay as vigilent as we have been. I have even posted that previously somewhere on these boards, so pay attention!!!!

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