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The herd - 5/7/2011 10:02:57 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		1. They keep taking more and more. Of the things we need, wheat, gas, and so forth.

2. They do not need to, they do not need any more money, in fact they already know money isn't worth shit.

3. The always take more, and more, and more. There is no end in sight.

4. Some royal asshole was stupid enough to come out publicly for elimination of 80% of the human race. A certain actor mimiced this. I also happen to agree with it but unllike most, if I have to go, fine.

Put all this together and it comes up to one thing. They are doing it by gouging us, at least in this stage of the game. They will push and push, take and take, and whatever it takes, even though they have absolutely no use for their ill gotten gains. They will continue to squeeze the commoner because of reasons not yet stated until now. (well maybe they were)

They have to thin out the herd. We are the herd. Now would you whack your precious livestock indiscriminately ? No. You would keep the most docile and productive among them. I would.

So they squeeze us to find out who may have the backbone and strength to oppose them. They make us start the trouble and they win hands down because they have destroyed any form of solidarity we may have ever had.

So they stick it to us no matter what, just to find out who will fuck with them about it first, and second, and third.........

And in the end, all those who would oppose them will be dead or imprisoned. And anyone with those granted rights that really are priveledges, will be on their side.

It don't get much better than that. What's more, they will have reshaped the face of not the Earth, but humanity - in their own image.

Behold the new God.

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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 10:10:08 AM   
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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 10:11:38 AM   
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However, they are hostage of their own ill-gotten gains: it is without value unless spent and the only thing it buys is service. Thus they are outnumbered by their servants.

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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 10:18:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nope, that's why all the medical care and research. They can pick who lives and dies. Not the government per se.

If you have 700 billion in the bank, why ? NOT giving it to those who need it is an action. That action is designed to make the entire planet better for - whom ?

Just a little piece at a time, moving forward, backing us up against the wal, like a dog cornered. Some will fight, some will growl and some will cower. They want all cowerers.

T^T

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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 12:16:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		today its about control more so than anything else.

they have the money control down to a science and its about keeping the people under their thumb to insure the collective keeps everything flowing upward to those on top.  The single biggest frauds in the us is the commercial citizen and unlawful taxation by wordsmithing syntax terrorism.


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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 6:08:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes. But I used to wonder why the control was so important. I used to attribute it to a strange (to us) form of addiction, but then it came to me. Most of the really big money people on this planet were born into it, they don't have to do a goddamn thing, ever.

Remember the forgery : Every Man would be a dictator if he could. Well they are effectively now, so what's the point ? Now I got the point. They see about 200 million square miles divided among about six billion people. They would rather it be split among about two billion people. And they want to pick and choose those people. Comply and become one of the chosen people. The rest must perish.

If I were the dictator of a small country somewhere it would be the freest country in the world. Seriously I don't give a shit what people do as long as it doesn't bother anyone else. In fact I would welcome dissidents to debates in the public media, if any. From where would dissidents come if I was not oppressive ? Well some people just can't be happy no matter what you do. So I would prove them wrong in public.

To me there is no more wondering why the government cares if you have an abortion or anal sex or whatever. Now I know the next level of the game. They want to be God.

The wisdon of all religions culminates in this concept I think. Not sure but that is fast becoming my opinion. The wheels are still grinding on this. I've purported to have knowledge of these things, about how people are and all that, and in fact I do. But I never really thought of it this way before. Like I said I thought it was irrational. That was my mistake. It is rational.

T^T

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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 6:13:43 PM   
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. Most of the really big money people on this planet were born into it, they don't have to do a goddamn thing, ever.



ORLY. Odd that so few on the list of richest people (or families) in the world today were on that list 25 years ago.

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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 6:22:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		You mean the short list ? There is no fucking list. Talk about Bilderbergs and shit, if there's fifty people in the room there are two such people there. They don't fucking tell you how much money they have. They don't go on TV. They don't show it off.

What did you think ? You think they're stupid ?

T^T

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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 6:31:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		They don't know individuals so how are they going to pick out their favourite subjects? What you speak of is an impossible task. I don't know how an organisation goes about measuring the compliancy of people it barely has a relationship with? If you lived in North Korea you'd probably be right to complain about this kind of thing but you don't, do you? In North Korea people that have a backbone suddenly disappear. Nobody in the west that moans about the state finds themselves in a labour camp.

This is most likely just an inferiority complex speaking.


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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 6:37:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pardon me ? First of all purporting that I have an inferiority complex will get you up in front of the CM mental health review board.

They don't have a list of names, because they don't know who's who. They find out by cranking down the screws to see who gets pissed rather than taking it up the ass like a good lapdog. My contention is that those lapdogs will be all that's left at some point, if they are successful.

T^T

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RE: The herd - 5/7/2011 6:52:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Who are you referring to? I've seen no cases where the US government is provoking anyone to get a reaction and then exterminate them. If the government wants to crack down on anyone it would act much the same way as you see going on in middle east right now.

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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 3:30:38 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		So Waco and Ruby Ridge were warranted ? Oil prices go down and gasoline goes up and that makes sense to you ? Everything costs more regardless of "inflation" ? On, one exception, property you already have, that's dropping like a rock. It's the property you don't have that seems so valuable.

If you don't see the screws being tightened on people, you are either incredibly wealthy or deluded somehow. If you don't see the myriad of unjust laws being passed and peoples' rights being trampled, you must have not been aware of them. Perhaps youth is the explaination. I grew up in a time when they couldn't search your car without a warrant. The cops came to the house they did not break the door down and put it on TV. Maybe you weren't there.

What people don't understand is for one that the uber riche' do not make themselves nor their affairs public. Everything you do see is a smokescreen. Another thing is that this goes on generation after generation. We were all born into it and that makes it something most cannot see, it is simply seems normal. Trust me, it is not. You would have to have been there.

Money is power. Power is more powerful when it is insidious. I actually agree that this planet is overpopulated, I just don't agree on who has to go. And ironically, I probably don't meet my own standard of worthiness. So be it.

If you think they tell you everything, let's take a simple example. I see a total of at least ten cop cars racing down the street. Go along and there are about thirty of them surrounding a building. Watch the news. It isn't there. Some guy getting a DUI is news, but a major operation like this is not.

Strip away a chaff, all the norms imposed upon you by the society and times into which you were born, and it may come clear. Things are not as they tell you.

This is a piss poor example but it'll have to do. Timothy McVeigh would not have attacked the Murrah building if it weren't for the events in Waco and Ruby Ridge. That is how they found him. Now they're after the next level. Then the next. Then the next. Eventually it will come to you. Don't worry though, I'll be long gone first.

I don't want to get adversarial here but, if you think everything is fine and dandy, and things are so good and getting better, enjoy the illusion.

T^T

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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 3:53:08 AM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
I probably don't meet my own standard of worthiness.

I deem you worthy, T.

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
This is a piss poor example but it'll have to do. Timothy McVeigh would not have attacked the Murrah building if it weren't for the events in Waco and Ruby Ridge. That is how they found him. Now they're after the next level. Then the next. Then the next. Eventually it will come to you. Don't worry though, I'll be long gone first.

Timmy got ordered to (pretend to) attack that building. He was not motivated by Waco, that was just a pretext. He was the fall guy. I have studied the case to some extent. I got the impression that he was a nice guy. As he himself said (I am not quoting verbatim): "Not everything is what it looks like". Timmy presumably is still alive (again); in any case there is no dead corpse of him that can be found.

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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 4:18:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FullCircle

Who are you referring to? I've seen no cases where the US government is provoking anyone to get a reaction and then exterminate them. If the government wants to crack down on anyone it would act much the same way as you see going on in middle east right now.



You speak of the government as if it is something separate and apart from corporations. A minor bit of homework would disabuse one of that notion.

8 million people have been squeezed out of jobs, many thousands had their homes fraudulently stolen from them, many businesses closed doors, likewise a good number of schools in the US. Where you been? It's been going on for over 30 years, though just the last few years as for the ultimate effect.

Some of us who were awake knew this even before any personal experience, but I've got a nephew in prison for 3 years minimum for possession of some quantity of the herb. Not for using, not for selling, just possession. My closest cousin departed this world 5 months ago due to, essentially, dereliction of duty by the FDA. She was a champ the whole way, even after being told 3 years ahead of time what was going to happen, no way out of it.

Some people still have this silly notion in their head that it's all based upon 'politics.'  Hence the idiotic allusions to N. Korea or the middle east.



How's the tuition situation in the UK, BTW?




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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 4:21:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let's go with that for a moment. McVeigh could be alive, we'll never know. Even if they produce a corpse, how do we know who ? A court catches you in one lie and it will disregard all other testimony you've given. Well why not hold the government to the same standard ? We know they lied at least once. In fact it's probably harder to find instances where they told the truth. OBL hated our freedom and democracy ? Come on, he didn't give a shit what we do over here anymore than I care what he did over there. And 911, look at the choice of the target. Look at the fact that it succeeded.

Ever know a licensed pilot ? You get up in the air you file a flight plane. If you deviate from the flight plan there could be big trouble. I knew a guy who flew down to Mexico from time to time to cop a bunch of weed, I mean alot of weed. He had to fudge it because he had to land on a private strip of course to get his plane loaded. But there was no fucking around in US airspace. So was the attack successful because of complicity or incompetence ? Planned incompetence IS complicity. So which is it ? And don't forget 1993, same place too, that was complicity for sure. In fact it was entrapment.

Personally I don't care if McVeigh is dead or alive, and only marginally whether he was actually guilty. The fact is, it is all a show. They want to influence people. They also want to find those who do not fall for their bullshit. And among them the priority is to find those who will do something about it.

As per another thread, I am experienced at talking my way out of the back of a police car. I can tell you this with unequivocable authority - NEVER mention the Constitution to a police officer. Why ? You tell me.

People in power have been honing their skills for about five thousand years. They're getting pretty good at it. Did you ever wonder why there are so many hemophiliacs among the royals ? It's an inherited disease. What might that mean ? They move borders and destroy cultures, while going a bit too far in their own eugenic ways. New money can ever compete.

So what do we do ? I really don't like bringing something like this up without at least some idea of how to do something about it. Force is not the answer because it's plain to see they care not for our well being or survival. I firmly believe that if the government et alii decided it would be in their best interest to execute 200 million citizens they would not hesitate for one moment, nor lose a minute's sleep over it. But then that would take all the fun out of it wouldn't it ? And it is fun. We are pawns.

T^T

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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 4:36:55 AM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
So what do we do?

We pay their taxes.

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Mark 17: And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
I really don't like bringing something like this up without at least some idea of how to do something about it. Force is not the answer because it's plain to see they care not for our well being or survival. I firmly believe that if the government et alii decided it would be in their best interest to execute 200 million citizens they would not hesitate for one moment, nor lose a minute's sleep over it. But then that would take all the fun out of it wouldn't it ? And it is fun. We are pawns.

Quite.

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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 4:53:44 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		Speaking of Caesar, there's a name I forgot. Speaking of just who these uber riche' may be, among them is the Kaiser family. Does it matter if they're in Forbes ?

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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 5:37:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FullCircle

Who are you referring to? I've seen no cases where the US government is provoking anyone to get a reaction and then exterminate them. If the government wants to crack down on anyone it would act much the same way as you see going on in middle east right now.


the real question is would you know it if you seen it?  The answer is no because its in front of you.





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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 5:41:09 AM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Being extremely rich usually is a good indication. However, they can be in any walk of life. Often they are in charge, like being chief of police or infiltrated as a leader of a workers union. Often they are politicians, lawyers, philosophers, actors, military. But they can also be artists and carnival folks. Though being without a conscience they are not necessarily all bad. In fact they often are idealists, as for example the psychopath who murders in order to improve the species (his rationalization - and he may sometimes be right). They are not only our crooks, but also our heroes. And they provide lots of amusement and events of interest, not only on stage, but also off stage as during the mega-play of 911 and the full screen wars against Iraq and - to a lesser degree - Afghanistan; I remember the daisy bombs dropped in Afghanistan...

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RE: The herd - 5/8/2011 5:42:52 AM   
Rule


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the real question is would you know it if you seen it?  The answer is no because its in front of you.

Indeed.

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