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Icarys -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 5:30:47 PM)

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It's an excellent filter to screen out the chicks with issues.

I agree but prefer "Shut it bitch" and a number of other variations.



ThundersCry -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 5:54:13 PM)

If she lets you fist her?...duh



LillyBoPeep -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 7:28:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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All women are submissive to some man but not to all men


Bullshit.


exactly.

when someone says "all men are assholes" guys don't put up with that, do they?
i dunno why they think they can get away with "all women are submissive."

that kind of thinking is based out of outdated "psychology" based on male-centered theories of anthropology created by *drum roll* MALE ANTHROPOLOGISTS..

all women ARE NOT submissive. many women are actually far more capable of REAL leadership than many men.
any person of any gender is capable of dominance or submission of some kind, given any assortment of criteria. that "all women are X" shit needs to stop.





leadership527 -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 9:43:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep
that "all women are X" shit needs to stop.

But it isn't going to stop... ever. Not about women, men, or donkeys. And, also has always been true such folks will trot out half-baked scientific theories to support their points. Wasn't it great fun measuring the skulls of blacks to scientifically prove they were mentally inferior to whites? Gosh you just gotta love science sometimes. When you're dealing with an ideologue it's pointless to engage in actual debate. They're not interested.

To be fair though, technically he didn't say "all women are submissive". He added on "to some man". I assume he meant, "some male, somewhere on the face of the planet could get this woman to submit." And who knows? That may be true. At least to me it doesn't sound all that implausible on the face of it. Then again it's probably also true to say that all men are submissive to some woman and all other permutations of that statement. At least for me, I'm pretty sure that out of the 7 billion people on the face of the planet I'm not the most dominant of all. So I figure there are men and women both who could, if they so chose, get me to submit.

Happily, that doesn't rock my world or threaten my domly ego in any way so I'll just keep on doing what I do with Carol until said person comes along.



LadyPact -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 10:58:49 PM)

"All things, if not impossible, even if they are improbable, they might be true."

It can't be argued.  If you can't discount something entirely, there is a possibility that it might exist.  I've been kicking this thing around for a long time and I've seen a lot of things.  Gender, role, sexual orientation....... None of those have mattered.  To date, nobody on this site has ever told Me there was some generality of "always" or "never" that I couldn't disprove from people that I knew in My own life.  The thing is, if it happened to them, isn't it possible that it could happen to other people? 

Is it likely to happen?  No.  There's no bullshit about the 'burning in My belly" or doing some superiority bullshit that hinged on things other than interactions between individual human beings.  Some of us really are zeros on the scale.  Bisexuality, submission, and every other thing.  Bah!  Too much crap.

OP, how do I know when I meet submissive women?  They respond to Me in just the right way when our chemisty (does) interact in the physical world.  If you don't step up and do that..... meet people, talk with people...... I'll have better luck with women than you do.



GreedyTop -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 11:14:52 PM)

*kneels at LadyP's feet and does slave position # 50071*


*snerk*



LadyPact -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 11:23:35 PM)

I just need one position, sweet........ Ours.

When the OP understands that, we might be able to help him.



GreedyTop -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 11:28:29 PM)

yep yep :)



LadyPact -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 11:30:11 PM)

See?

<blows a kiss to GT>



GreedyTop -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 11:51:27 PM)

*blows kisses back*



LadyPact -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 11:55:32 PM)

Let's sneak off into the sunset.  We're done here, anyway.



myotherself -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/12/2011 11:58:03 PM)

*waves forlornly at the lovely couple as they sail away into the sunset*

How the HELL did I miss this thread?!

Sheesh...I need to catch up with my sleep...[8|]



OwnedFemaleFlesh -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 1:04:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: aromanholiday
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ORIGINAL: OwnedFemaleFlesh
The point I was responding to stated that submissives would just naturally respond to dominance, regardless of who it was coming from.


I thought it was implied in that quote that the person was talking about unowned submissives, but I could be wrong. But also while some submissives and slaves do seem to have an inner set of rules of ethics about discouraging inappropriate aggression or flirtation from strange dominants, I've seen a lot of supposedly "owned" submissives actively flirt with people other than their dominants at these events. You also see a lot of casual players there. Everyone is confused with everyone else. I imagine it can get a bit confusing for dominants trying to meet submissives at those things to determine who's available. The messages sent can be ambiguous.


I guess it could be only referring to unowned submissives, but as you say, there are some owned submissives who flirt with Dominants too. But even if the submissive was unowned, unless she is interested in the Dom, there's still no guarantee that she would respond to his dominance.

I think some Doms who are insecure blame the submissive if they don't get the response they're looking for. So if they approach a submissive and she says she's not interested, they will come back with the response 'you're not a proper submissive'. It's an insult designed to take attention off the lack of appealing qualities in the Dom, and make the submissive feel she has to prove something by being submissive towards him. A lot of these so-called 'Doms' only got into BDSM because they were angered that vanilla women were able to spurn them, and they see BDSM as a return to the way relations between men and women 'ought' to be. A female submissive who doesn't respond to them angers them because they see it as going against the natural order, and the sense of entitlement that they think being a Dom gives them. They just don't like the idea that female submissives have control over who they are submissive to.

owned xxx




LaTigresse -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 6:36:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

In short, I thoroughly agree.  It's an excellent filter to screen out the chicks with issues.


And it is an even better filter to screen out the neanderthals.



Icarys -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 6:43:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness

In short, I thoroughly agree.  It's an excellent filter to screen out the chicks with issues.


And it is an even better filter to screen out the neanderthals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJepDh5WxQQ



PetiteOralSub -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 7:11:20 AM)

@LillyBoPeep -- Whether it was your intent of not, I felt as if you considered submissiveness in a human as shameful or in someway less, pity.

If a person considers themself submissive, are they not?
If you do not consider them submissive, then to you, they are not.

It is about the relationship between two entities -- not the person in a vacuum.
Which is why the possibility exists for any person to be a submissive at some time in relationship to some other person.
Heirarchy is a natural occurence, and is only one facet of the the relationship between two people.

And of course by relationship I mean the strict definition, any interaction between two people creates a relationship;
the word has come to mean a romantic or sexual interaction only, and I dont use it in that limited fashion.

Yin Yang, black white, pain pleasure;
a leader is a person with followers, without followers there are no leaders, someone has to be the follower, someone has to be the leader.



LadyConstanze -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 7:12:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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All women are submissive to some man but not to all men


Bullshit.


Thank you cuteness![;)]


Agreed.



I guess those of us who are not just haven't met "the right one", we should cry and feel terribly lacking... Can somebody please pass the onions so we can cry a bit...



LillyBoPeep -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 8:41:05 AM)

PetiteOralSub -- i have no idea what your reply has to do with my post. if you had any idea who i was or had read my profile, you would know that i do not consider being submissive "bad." i'm a submissive. in fact, i'm seeking a Master. =p there's nothing wrong with being submissive at all, and my post did not, in any way make that a point.

my post is about sweeping generalizations, nothing more, nothing less. the yin yang stuff has nothing to do with this topic whatsoever. =p



crazyml -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 8:48:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Icarys

quote:

It's an excellent filter to screen out the chicks with issues.

I agree but prefer "Shut it bitch" and a number of other variations.



You could really ham up the East-London patois by bellowing "Shut it, SLAG"




Icarys -> RE: In reality, how would you know if a female is submissive? (5/13/2011 8:57:47 AM)

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If a person considers themself submissive, are they not?

Well technically, not always.



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