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Brain -> John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/9/2011 8:50:56 PM)

Trillions in spending cuts are just not happening so I may be wrong but sooner or later they won't make a deal and there will be another recession/depression and interest rates will go through the roof. The economy in the future doesn't look good. Taxes are the lowest they have been in around 50 years and the Republicans put two wars on credit cards and raising taxes on rich people to pay for all of it is not responsible? Cutting trillions in Medicare and Medicaid and hurting the poor is responsible, yeah right!



John Boehner: 'Trillions' In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs
ANDREW TAYLOR and SAMANTHA GROSS

"It's true that allowing America to default would be irresponsible," Boehner said. "But it would be more irresponsible to raise the debt limit without simultaneously taking dramatic steps to reduce spending and to reform the budget process."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/09/john-boehner-debt-ceilling_n_859651.html



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tazzygirl -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/9/2011 10:23:21 PM)

Yeah, they want cuts all right....

Ryan and other Republican leaders, backing away from campaign promises of $100 billion in cuts, will instead seek to pare $43 billion from in non-security discretionary programs, compared to 2010 levels. The Defense Department would see an $8 billion, or 2 percent, increase under the plan.


Just what kind of cut is it that takes billions from programs designed to help the poor while giving 8 billion more to defense???



joether -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/9/2011 11:46:31 PM)

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Source

"Tax hikes should be off the table," Boehner said.


What drugs are these Republicans on? It has been stated in the past by economists that the removal of the Bush ear tax cuts would bring in $700-800 Billion/year. That closes the $900 Billion deficit gap by a very good percentage. After that, if Republicans really gave a shit about the nation, they'd offer up $300 Billion out of the stuff they dont want removed, to get their $200-300 Billion in spending cuts. Not only would that create a surplus on the budget, but could take that money and apply it directly towards the debt principle (thus saving money on future interest payments).

But that would require the GOP to be wise and intelligent on the issue. Brain has it correct: they really screwed the country paying two wars on credit. Thats not to mention keeping the growing national debt a 'secret' by focusing the public's attention on Irag, Iran, Afghanistan, and other Middle East nations. Heck, anyone that tried to keep 'em accountable, were accused of being un-American.

What is worst then the elected Republicans in Congress doing this crap? The idiots who keep voting them in to office.



Sanity -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 5:58:36 AM)


The Dems voted to fund the wars too, joe...

Theres far too much wrong with every argument on this thread to waste my time disputing, just thought it might be fun to pop one of the biggest brightest balloons you three are trying to sell

quote:

they really screwed the country paying two wars on credit.



Termyn8or -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 6:02:11 AM)

"The idiots who keep voting them in to office."

You running for office ? Why not ?

Could it be you don't have the money ? Could it be you don't have the backing ? Could it be you don't have the connectiions ? The right friends ? Like in the media, the oil or other big companies.

You run and I'll vote for you, I'll run and you vote for me, deal ? Anything's better than the scumbags we got now. I don't care if you torture small animals, I'll still vote for you.

Now just how do we get our names on the ballot ? Easy right ?

T^T



SilverMark -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 6:02:45 AM)

Now we can watch Boenher s l o w l y back away from this one.....and he will.


Then he will cry about it....



Lucylastic -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 10:48:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The Dems voted to fund the wars too, joe...

Theres far too much wrong with every argument on this thread to waste my time disputing, just thought it might be fun to pop one of the biggest brightest balloons you three are trying to sell

quote:

they really screwed the country paying two wars on credit.


From the second link on your list there Sanity
Democrats, who won control of the House and Senate on an election-year promise to wind down America's combat role in Iraq, are scaling back expectations that they can muster enough votes to force President Bush to change course.But a congressional debate over the matter set for this week, they say, will step up pressure on Iraqi leaders to reach a political settlement that could help end the war – and show that antiwar forces are gaining momentum on Capitol Hill.At issue is whether lawmakers will set a date for withdrawal of most US armed forces. Last month, the House voted to require Mr. Bush to end a US combat role in Iraq by the end of August 2008. The Senate set a target date five months earlier. Bush says he will veto any bill that includes any such timetable, and Republicans say they have ample votes to uphold that veto.In Michigan on Friday, the president said that Iraqi and American forces are "making incremental gains in Baghdad" and that Congress could scuttle it by delaying funds needed by US forces. The delay in approving emergency war funding "is beginning to affect the ability of the Pentagon to fund our troops and all our missions," he said.In response, House Democrats cite Army estimates that the Pentagon has what it needs to pay for the war through June. "Although it is the intention of Congress to send you an appropriations measure next week, should you follow through on your threat not to sign it, it is clear that there is ample time to work together to devise an alternative," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other House Democratic leaders in a letter on April 20."The troops will get the money they need when all is said and done," predicted Sen. Carl Levin (D) of Michigan, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, in a conference call with reporters on Friday. "There's a lot of Republicans who are very concerned about where we are [regarding progress in Iraq], and I think we can pick up some support on a veto override. which, even if we don't override, would show continuing momentum."http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0423/p02s01-uspo.html


It doesnt sound as if they went down that road as happily as you claim it, and thats according to a right wing site too!




Sanity -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 11:00:11 AM)


From the first actual news article Lucy - pay special attention to the vote count.:

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Senate approves funds for Iraq, Afghanistan wars


[image]http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/3.0/1px.gif[/image] [image]http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/3.0/1px.gif[/image] [image]http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/3.0/1px.gif[/image] [image]http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/3.0/1px.gif[/image] June 18, 2009 CNN


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    U.S. soldiers stand guard in Baghdad, Iraq, in March.


    The U.S. Senate on Thursday passed a $106 billion spending bill that includes about $80 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, sending the bill to the White House for President Obama's signature.The money will fund the wars through October. The 91-5 vote followed a much closer procedural vote that added $1 billion in start-up funds for the "cash for clunkers" program, an effort to revive the stalled U.S. auto industry.

    The money brings the running tab for both conflicts to about $950 billion, according to figures from the Congressional Research Service. The agency estimated that more than three-quarters of the money so far has gone to the war in Iraq, where most of the U.S. troops sent to those conflicts have been deployed.
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    Lucylastic -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 11:13:55 AM)

    once again, you gave a list of articles, I picked one
    Why cannot you respond to that?
    Is it not believable?

    If you wanted that particular article as proof, you should have pointed to it, sorry you got caught out..again
    I say my link has as much to show unhappiness at the bill than yours does and from an earlier date
    my link is responding to your post.
    If Dems were happy about it, Bush wouldnt have used the veto warning.








    Sanity -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 11:24:19 AM)


    Dear Lucy, the link you chose had nothing to do with what I posted, which was that the Dems voted to fund the wars and so I was merely helping to clarify



    Lucylastic -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 11:27:11 AM)

    but it did
    it just said they were unhappy about it
    dumbass



    Sanity -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 11:29:23 AM)


    That wasnt the point, has nothing to do with it.

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

    but it did
    it just said they were unhappy about it
    dumbass




    Lucylastic -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 11:57:28 AM)

    oh yes it does, of course it does
    you implied that dems have been right behind bush for the two wars
    not exactly the truth is it
    however the point of this thread is that Repubs will not cut defense, just the poor women and underemployed
    as usual
    now how is that going to help one of them
    ????







    thishereboi -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 12:43:58 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

    oh yes it does, of course it does
    you implied that dems have been right behind bush for the two wars
    not exactly the truth is it
    however the point of this thread is that Repubs will not cut defense, just the poor women and underemployed
    as usual
    now how is that going to help one of them
    ????







    I hate to agree with sanity but he said "The Dems voted to fund the wars too, joe..." not sure how that implies anything.



    Fellow -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 1:24:07 PM)

    Obama administration suggests that if the debt ceiling is not raised, the US will default on servicing the existing debt. I suspect they are lying as usual. There are many ways funds can be raised without default. To a neutral observer it looks like endgame. If I ask a credit company to increase the credit limit in order to pay fees I am basically financially toast and the default is just a matter of time.




    housesub4you -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 2:41:58 PM)

    I just think it shows the true face of the GOP, from 2001 - 2006 they raised the debt ceiling 4 times, not once asking for any cuts, nor caring what the Dems said. 

    From 2006 - 2008 they rose the debt ceiling 2 more times, never once asking for any cuts anywhere. 


    Nowwwww.....they insist on cuts and will not raise the debt ceiling because of the debt, they just never mention how much of that debt they caused.



    Sanity -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 2:56:26 PM)



    Heh... [:D]

    Obama Regrets Vote Against Raising Debt Limit



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    jlf1961 -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 3:07:06 PM)

    The United States spends three times as much on defense than ANY other country INCLUDING China.

    At one time, that spending equated to jobs for new weapons programs, but no more.



    Real0ne -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 3:23:21 PM)

    well when you are in the Imperial Empire business thats what ya gotta do

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    thishereboi -> RE: John Boehner: Trillions In Spending Cuts Loom On Debt Ceiling Vote backs (5/10/2011 4:05:06 PM)

    Totally off topic, but I really like that pic of him. 



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