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Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 6:25:51 AM   
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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 6:33:45 AM   
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The only way to truly experience DSOTM is through a DECENT set of over the ear head phones while mellowing on a tasty buzz.

I'm not saying I won't be in line to buy the new disks... just that those tiny little ear bud thing-a-ma-jigs just don't cut it when it comes to the Floyd boys.

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 6:38:57 AM   
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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 6:46:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, Marc, but I must disagree. DSOTM is for long drives in the middle of the night, and for fucking.

I don't even have the earpieces for the ipod. It plays through the stereo.

I wonder if there will be a 52 minute version of Dogs, in the re-release of Animals.

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 6:50:05 AM   
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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 6:54:35 AM   
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Sorry, Marc, but I must disagree. DSOTM is for long drives in the middle of the night, and for fucking.

I don't even have the earpieces for the ipod. It plays through the stereo.

I wonder if there will be a 52 minute version of Dogs, in the re-release of Animals.


Naw... Careful With That Ax, Eugene is for fucking... doggy style... in the middle of the woods... at night... during a thunderstorm...

I do beleive that was one of the greatest nights of my life.



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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 6:56:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can't wait for Moon to hit. But I really find it sad  commentary that folks in the music industry are putting the Compact Disc out to pasture so easily (at least that's what continual articles make it sound like). And in favor of what? The all too LOSSY mp3?
   I spent close to 15 years working with other Grateful Dead tapers working out conventions that would allow for online music file formats that were robust and true to the dynamics expected of a Compact Disc and Audio DVD. And during that time I encountered a lot of coders working on codecs that were "good enough". And the 'good enough' they are talking about, just plain sucks.
    I have zero doubts that the Floyd folks will release something of monumental quality, cause well, that's just what they do.


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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 7:59:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Guys Dark Side of the Moon is a great album but its only 42 minutes long! A two disc set with bonus material might be OK at a stretch but a six disc set??? That is eight hours of capacity. One would expect loads of new songs but all that is mentioned is an up-tempo version of Money and a version of The Great Gig in the Sky" without the vocals - the very thing that made that track special. Wow. Then a seven disc set of that abomination "The Wall" lol. The cup overfloweth!

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Can't wait for Moon to hit. But I really find it sad  commentary that folks in the music industry are putting the Compact Disc out to pasture so easily (at least that's what continual articles make it sound like). And in favor of what? The all too LOSSY mp3?

True, the last time I looked (2 or so years ago) CD still had 80% of the market. Its aimless speculation to say CD will die soon - back in 2001 or so people were saying CD was on the way out just as high street retail would all go online. I think there will be music sold in physical form for a long time, maybe CD or perhaps the audio only version of Blu-ray might take off.

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 9:19:56 AM   
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The only way to truly experience DSOTM is through a DECENT set of over the ear head phones while mellowing on a tasty buzz.


You're both wrong, surround sound is the only way to go!

Thanks for the link, now I know what to get my friends for XMas this year.

I don't think I'll ever enjoy a concert as much as Roger Water's The Wall last year...

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 10:35:13 AM   
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Considering Pink Floyd has the greatest catalogue in the history of art through any medium, I'm incredibly excited to hear that they'll be adding some rarities to it. It really will be a shame if everything moves fully to downloading. I'd like to see the Gate-fold covers have a revival.


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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 10:36:59 AM   
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Sorry, Marc, but I must disagree. DSOTM is for long drives in the middle of the night, and for fucking.

I don't even have the earpieces for the ipod. It plays through the stereo.

I wonder if there will be a 52 minute version of Dogs, in the re-release of Animals.


Naw... Careful With That Ax, Eugene is for fucking... doggy style... in the middle of the woods... at night... during a thunderstorm...

I do beleive that was one of the greatest nights of my life.




As long as you mean the live version of Careful With That Ax, Eugene from Ummagumma, I fully agree.


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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 11:38:55 AM   
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that abomination "The Wall"




The Wall is not an abomination. Now I'll agree that it is not the height of Pink Floyd's creativety that most people think it is (I think that honor goes to Dark Side of the Moon) but it is still one awsome headphone experience. Are you sure you're not just being a little sour-pussed because when most non-Floyd fans think of Pink Floyd they think of The Wall?

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 11:40:32 AM   
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You don't know shit about Dark Side of the Moon until you've performed cunnilingus on a girl while listening to Great Gig in the Sky sending enough pleasure through her body for her to perfectly imitate the vocals.


I haven't actually tried that. I would think that the timing would be difficult but you know what they say: PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!



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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 11:42:01 AM   
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As long as you mean the live version of Careful With That Ax, Eugene from Ummagumma, I fully agree.


Oh yeah! By the way, even without the thunderstorm (you need some cooperation from mother nature after all) it is an awsome experience.

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 12:43:40 PM   
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that abomination "The Wall"




The Wall is not an abomination. Now I'll agree that it is not the height of Pink Floyd's creativety that most people think it is (I think that honor goes to Dark Side of the Moon) but it is still one awsome headphone experience. Are you sure you're not just being a little sour-pussed because when most non-Floyd fans think of Pink Floyd they think of The Wall?

Headphones or no, my own view is that The Wall is crap except for a few tracks like "Goodbye Blue Sky". Anyone who disagrees must listen to "The Trial" continually for 24 hours. What could have been a good album was in fact a display of meglomania and sickening rock star self pity. Floydies think its the greatest thing since sliced bread but the truth is that the band hadn't made a decent album since "Wish you were here". Then a big decline came. "Animals" was devoid of any quality except for "Sheep". The other guys said Roger pretty much took over the band and it seems true. He destroyed the band quite soon after it was peaking in 1972/73. Roger took over most vocal duties and there was little collaboration on song writing as a quick look at the liner notes on the albums will demonstrate. The Wall became Roger's vanity project. He fucked out Wright in 1979 who was in essence the main contributor of Floyd's sound and disposed of Gilmore in 82.

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 12:47:02 PM   
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You don't know shit about Dark Side of the Moon until you've performed cunnilingus on a girl while listening to Great Gig in the Sky sending enough pleasure through her body for her to perfectly imitate the vocals.



you're even better if you can make her recreate all the sounds of "Several dozen species of small furry animals huddled in a cave and grooving with a Pict"

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 12:50:57 PM   
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that abomination "The Wall"




The Wall is not an abomination. Now I'll agree that it is not the height of Pink Floyd's creativety that most people think it is (I think that honor goes to Dark Side of the Moon) but it is still one awsome headphone experience. Are you sure you're not just being a little sour-pussed because when most non-Floyd fans think of Pink Floyd they think of The Wall?

Headphones or no, my own view is that The Wall is crap except for a few tracks like "Goodbye Blue Sky". Anyone who disagrees must listen to "The Trial" continually for 24 hours. What could have been a good album was in fact a display of meglomania and sickening rock star self pity. Floydies think its the greatest thing since sliced bread but the truth is that the band hadn't made a decent album since "Wish you were here". Then a big decline came. "Animals" was devoid of any quality except for "Sheep". The other guys said Roger pretty much took over the band and it seems true. He destroyed the band quite soon after it was peaking in 1972/73. Roger took over most vocal duties and there was little collaboration on song writing as a quick look at the liner notes on the albums will demonstrate. The Wall became Roger's vanity project. He fucked out Wright in 1979 who was in essence the main contributor of Floyd's sound and disposed of Gilmore in 82.


The Trial is an amazing musical composition; a triumph even and very arguably the best song on The Wall. The Wall itself is a very well constructed and damn good narrative. To create an album with the scope of The Wall is a feat that should be applauded by anyone with a few braincells and a pair of ears. Roger became overbearing but if everyone allows you to be the sole songwriter, you're going to become such. Wright also was dealing with a cocaine problem and was unproductive. Combine that with Roger's controlling nature, of course they were going to butt heads.

Dark Side of the Moon is vastly superior to The Wall but The Wall is a historic composition warranting respect from both a musical and storytelling standpoint. The tour for it was also the most elaborate stage show ever at that time period and Roger's re-boot of it has taken the cake and will hold it's spot for a long time to come.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is... your taste is bad and you should feel bad.

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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 12:59:16 PM   
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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 1:04:27 PM   
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I sometimes sit around on my leather chair and look out the window to contemplate what I hate more; Pink Floyd or Muse.

Probably Muse.




I hope that was tongue-in-cheek like...

I wonder what I hate more: blow jobs or hot chocolate...

Probably hot chocolate. It's hard to compete with blow jobs or Pink Floyd.


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RE: Pink Floyd re-issue - 5/12/2011 1:05:32 PM   
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that abomination "The Wall"




The Wall is not an abomination. Now I'll agree that it is not the height of Pink Floyd's creativety that most people think it is (I think that honor goes to Dark Side of the Moon) but it is still one awsome headphone experience. Are you sure you're not just being a little sour-pussed because when most non-Floyd fans think of Pink Floyd they think of The Wall?

Headphones or no, my own view is that The Wall is crap except for a few tracks like "Goodbye Blue Sky". Anyone who disagrees must listen to "The Trial" continually for 24 hours. What could have been a good album was in fact a display of meglomania and sickening rock star self pity. Floydies think its the greatest thing since sliced bread but the truth is that the band hadn't made a decent album since "Wish you were here". Then a big decline came. "Animals" was devoid of any quality except for "Sheep". The other guys said Roger pretty much took over the band and it seems true. He destroyed the band quite soon after it was peaking in 1972/73. Roger took over most vocal duties and there was little collaboration on song writing as a quick look at the liner notes on the albums will demonstrate. The Wall became Roger's vanity project. He fucked out Wright in 1979 who was in essence the main contributor of Floyd's sound and disposed of Gilmore in 82.

The Trial is an amazing musical composition; a triumph even and very arguably the best song on The Wall. The Wall itself is a very well constructed and damn good narrative. To create an album with the scope of The Wall is a feat that should be applauded by anyone with a few braincells and a pair of ears. Roger became overbearing but if everyone allows you to be the sole songwriter, you're going to become such. Wright also was dealing with a cocaine problem and was unproductive. Combine that with Roger's controlling nature, of course they were going to butt heads.

Dark Side of the Moon is vastly superior to The Wall but The Wall is a historic composition warranting respect from both a musical and storytelling standpoint. The tour for it was also the most elaborate stage show ever at that time period and Roger's re-boot of it has taken the cake and will hold it's spot for a long time to come.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is... your taste is bad and you should feel bad.

You are of course entitled to your opinion and taste in art can be subjective but I think even from an objective standpoint The Wall is utter toss. If you want to hear what a concept album should be in terms of narrative then check out "Berlin" by Lou Reed - it shares the same producer. The others didn't suddenly allow him to be the sole songwriter and even if they did that did not mean he should take over. Some band leaders don't contribute much material, e.g. Fripp in King Crimson. Wright who was the second songwriter decided to focus more on performance and production. Waters was sidelining the other members out since "Wish you were here" so TBH I don't think a coke habit figures too highly as a reason - he actually wanted to replace all the members because he didn't think they were up to it technically!!! lol Did he want to transform the band into Weather Report or what?

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