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housesub4you -> JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 12:48:16 PM)
Well, last year just about every GOP running for office ran on creating jobs. So far all they have done is fight for tax breaks for the wealth.....and lying about the job Obama is doing. Case in point...Obama has created more jobs in this country in his short time in office than Bush did in 8. Facts is facts.... Hey what happened to my chart????? Well here is a link... http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/07/obama-more-jobs-bush/

willbeurdaddy -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 12:54:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you Well, last year just about every GOP running for office ran on creating jobs. So far all they have done is fight for tax breaks for the wealth.....and lying about the job Obama is doing. Case in point...Obama has created more jobs in this country in his short time in office than Bush did in 8. Facts is facts.... Hey what happened to my chart????? Well here is a link... http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/07/obama-more-jobs-bush/ Now try to understand the reasons and come back in a year or so when you do.

mnottertail -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 12:57:41 PM)
We know the reasons, and always have. Heres a hint, it is rabid right wing ineptitude.

Lucylastic -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 1:18:05 PM)
They gotta get all the cuts to medicaid, medicare, social security, Union busting, slashing PP and abortion rights for women utterly stripped first, dont you know anything? snickers

Moonhead -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 1:25:39 PM)
Then they have to start in on the terrible tax rates all these poor oppressed wealthy white guys are paying...

Lucylastic -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 1:31:14 PM)
poor poor babies, it must be so hard the poor should think themselves lucky they only have to wait a couple of years before it trickles down. Sheer Luxury

Mezrem -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 1:36:18 PM)
Psst you guys know he wont be running against Bush right? Saying you are eating a shit sandwich with pickles does not change the fact you are eating a shit sandwich. Bush was horrid on domestic policy, I will give you that.. but I don’t believe Obama is a lot better. I know when ends don’t meet at my house we cut back. Yeah it sucks but then again unlike the people we have in Washington I can ‘t print my own money.. well ok I could but I’m too pretty for prison. Also I have never gotten a job from a poor person.. so yeah lets hike the hell out of the taxes on the rich... they wont pick up and leave or find some shelter.. nope I'm sure they will give it all up. http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2009/02/obamas-trillions-dwarf-bushs-dangerous-spending

flcouple2009 -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:05:18 PM)
Here's a hint. It wasn't the POOR people who moved the job overseas so they could increase their stock options.

jlf1961 -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:05:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic They gotta get all the cuts to medicaid, medicare, social security, Union busting, slashing PP and abortion rights for women utterly stripped first, dont you know anything? snickers Look, if it were up to the Republicans and right wingers, there would be no social security, no medical coverage for the poor and elderly, no women's right to choose, a state sponsored religion, no unions, no worker's rights, no control on pollution (hey they like brown air), no research into alternative energy resources, no rights to due process and the police could torture confessions out of everyone.

ArizonaBossMan -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:08:07 PM)
Everybody with a brain knows the way to financial success is tax the hell out of producers. Make more and more people dependent on, well, DEAR LEADER! He will take care of all of you. If it's good? TAX IT. If it moves? Tax it. Don't worry about reality. Reality is Dear Leader and the donkey are here to make sure the successful PAY PAY PAY. Don't like it? More tax for you! Woo Hoo! Socialism... fails every time ya try it! Don't worry about facts or logic! FEELINGS are what counts most in America. After all we have the bestest military leader ever in Dear Leader! He's the man who shot osama bin laden! EVERYBODY sing!

DomKen -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:09:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ArizonaBossMan Everybody with a brain knows the way to financial success is tax the hell out of producers. He finally said something true. I do really get bored with Ayn Rand types who have no idea what the tax rate was during the 1950's.

Lucylastic -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:09:34 PM)
you seem to think Im standing up for them?? Should I use some sort of sarcasm font? the "snickers" didnt alert you ? Im well aware of the shit they are trying to pull but yanno we all deal with issues in a different way, so chill out please

mnottertail -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:10:46 PM)
The producers are not the corporations, the producers are the workers. I see you not only are not educated in communication, you lack other basic education as well. And that's who the rightwingers are going after, and leaving the corpulent with all.

lockedaway -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:14:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The producers are not the corporations, the producers are the workers. I see you not only are not educated in communication, you lack other basic education as well. And that's who the rightwingers are going after, and leaving the corpulent with all. Wrong. The producers ARE the corporations. Many corporations, especially in the textile industry, operate almost entirely with robotics. So are those corporations not producers? Of course they are. The fact is that a worker is not a worker unless he has a plant, foundry, assembly line, etc. to work at. The corporation is the producer and the worker and the rest of society are consumers, hopefully, of that product. Neither can exist without the other.

Lucylastic -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:14:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The producers are not the corporations, the producers are the workers. I see you not only are not educated in communication, you lack other basic education as well. And that's who the rightwingers are going after, and leaving the corpulent with all. The workers who work and work and produce and produce until the company is so successful it can buy automated machinery, cutting jobs to keep the bottom line up, oh and to pay higher divis to those important shareholders. I guess soylent green will be in production soon, (no humans needed to run it)

Mezrem -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:19:09 PM)
So business should not be seeking to make a return on the investment of capital put in by the share holders? They should be in business only to provide jobs and not seek to make money for the people who are taking the risk on the success of the business? If my view if flawed tell me how, I'm not trying to nesserly provoke you. Rather I am trying to understand the logic. quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The producers are not the corporations, the producers are the workers. I see you not only are not educated in communication, you lack other basic education as well. And that's who the rightwingers are going after, and leaving the corpulent with all. The workers who work and work and produce and produce until the company is so successful it can buy automated machinery, cutting jobs to keep the bottom line up, oh and to pay higher divis to those important shareholders. I guess soylent green will be in production soon, (no humans needed to run it)

lockedaway -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:20:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: housesub4you Well, last year just about every GOP running for office ran on creating jobs. So far all they have done is fight for tax breaks for the wealth.....and lying about the job Obama is doing. Case in point...Obama has created more jobs in this country in his short time in office than Bush did in 8. Facts is facts.... Facts is facts? Idiocy... Some simple questions arise from your post. Why was unemployment 4.5% to 5.5% under Bush and 9% and higher under your messianic Obama? Here...read this and edify yourself on the issue of who actually created more jobs. You will be surprised and probably a bit miserable. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/oct/25/nancy-pelosi/nancy-pelosi-says-more-private-sector-jobs-created/

lockedaway -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:25:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The producers are not the corporations, the producers are the workers. I see you not only are not educated in communication, you lack other basic education as well. And that's who the rightwingers are going after, and leaving the corpulent with all. The workers who work and work and produce and produce until the company is so successful it can buy automated machinery, cutting jobs to keep the bottom line up, oh and to pay higher divis to those important shareholders. I guess soylent green will be in production soon, (no humans needed to run it) Soylent Green!!!! Great movie. That being said, I love the utterly devoid of common sense argument that it is wrong to maximize profits. Yup...we should pay people $50.00 per hour to sink a screw through a piece of sheet metal...a job that a 5th grader could do after 20 minutes of instruction...rather than rely on the robotics that makes the plant more profitable. You know who thinks that is a great idea? The competition!!!!!! Oh...and Soylent Green will be offered in a variety of flavors in real life as opposed to the bran tasting stuff of the movie.

mnottertail -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:28:57 PM)
And you whine and bitch and moan, for the corporations, but got nothing for jobs. So, since this thread is about jobs, jobs, jobs, do you have anything in the GOP ideology that gets jobs?

Lucylastic -> RE: JOBS JOBS JOBS...and the GOP (5/12/2011 2:31:08 PM)
No, asolutely not Mezrem.. but what happens to all the workers, when all corps do is cut jobs or outsource. You get 43 million on food stamps Where is it going to stop, the " fuck you Im all right jack" meme doesnt work once you have 1/7 of your population who cannot find work that will give them a decent living. WHy are so few not paying taxes?? the poor? because their jobs dont pay them a living wage, the rich cos they have loopholes, not because they DESERVE more money There may be production, there may be profits but its tooo narrow a view for my taste

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