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Sanity -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:02:56 AM)
So leftists are happy that the housing market continues to plummet, because on paper it makes food and energy inflation seem insignificant... That about sum it up? quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: You can't deny inflation anymore, it's showing up in food and gas everywhere. That's not inflation--that's a price increase in two areas. Inflation is a broader measure (which includes flat housing prices). Before we get into a cherry picking argument, economists use the GDP deflator as the gauge of inflation, which includes all goods. I was going to respond to that too but this place is starting to give me a permanent headache. [sm=banghead.gif] You have far more patience than I do.

EternalHoH -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America (5/13/2011 6:09:33 AM)
I like him because he is a reminder of just how far we have strayed from the Constitution. He is a reminder of just how far the Republican party has strayed from its ideals in the Goldwater days. Before the Ralph Reeds and Karl Roves and Rupert Murdochs of the world worked their black magic. I do, however, think the world is a little more complex than his 1776 government playbook says it is. Hitting the center of the bullseye: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8TkmE5t1Pk And Hannity couldn't handle it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEdcvUek6-s

flcouple2009 -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:18:27 AM)
So your happy with a housing bubble that forces prices to the point where average people can't afford to buy a home in the area they live. This leads to people using risky mortgages with ridicules ARMs just to get into a house hoping something good will happen before the increases. This leading to the disaster that follows when the bubble burst because of over the top pricing and failure of borrowers to meet the increase in payments. That about sum it up? This is a side show, RP has no chance of being nominated much less elected president.

Musicmystery -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:23:00 AM)
quote: Not deflation- more like a currency devaluation. Like the cost of running a household has not gone up 10% this year. Some of us actually pay bills to run a household and those costs are at least 10% higher. See, here's your confusion. If instead of inflation, you said the cost to run a household had risen 10% due to increases in oil and food prices, I could agree (aside from that you made up the percentage of increase, but yes, they've risen and it makes an impact).

Termyn8or -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:23:19 AM)
If RP was in charge for the last decade or so none of this would've happened. But you humans can only think of your personal things, like the one timeline and how much money you have. T^T

Sanity -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:28:58 AM)
Leftists caused the housing bubble http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3670200 And the Obama administration would like nothing better than to get it kick started again http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3670130 quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 So your happy with a housing bubble that forces prices to the point where average people can't afford to buy a home in the area they live. This leads to people using risky mortgages with ridicules ARMs just to get into a house hoping something good will happen before the increases. This leading to the disaster that follows when the bubble burst because of over the top pricing and failure of borrowers to meet the increase in payments. That about sum it up? This is a side show, RP has no chance of being nominated much less elected president.

Owner59 -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:29:36 AM)
^ See that`s yer problem.You think collarchat is reality.[:D] quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: Not deflation- more like a currency devaluation. Like the cost of running a household has not gone up 10% this year. Some of us actually pay bills to run a household and those costs are at least 10% higher. See, here's your confusion. If instead of inflation, you said the cost to run a household had risen 10% due to increases in oil and food prices, I could agree (aside from that you made up the percentage of increase, but yes, they've risen and it makes an impact). Trying not to date myself but when I was 1st buying gas to cut lawns with as a teen,a gal. was 35 cents. In other words inflation happens.And will always happen.Even Ron Paul can`t make that go away or claim to be able to.

Musicmystery -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:30:54 AM)
quote: So leftists are happy that the housing market continues to plummet, because on paper it makes food and energy inflation seem insignificant... That about sum it up? Nope. Your complete and intentional misrepresentation. Try addressing real points. When you have to make up positions, you've got nothing.

EternalHoH -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:32:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or If RP was in charge for the last decade or so none of this would've happened. But you humans can only think of your personal things, like the one timeline and how much money you have. T^T I dunno. War and empire-wise, I agree. Financially, tho,the last decade happened because we cut the 'good' financial regs. We apparently could not make the distinction between good and bad regs when operating the trimmer. The last decade was the Ayn Rand doctrine at its finest. Just ask her disciple, Greenspan.

MrRodgers -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:32:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy about time we had some regular comic relief in the lead-up to real campaigns. What is so comical about Ron Paul ? Ron Paul is the only conservative out there. He is already being marginalized by the press and the neo-cons. I am sure Fox will be in on it soon. Seems it is worked on you. He's so far ahead of the rest of the repub field, they (repubs) all ought to be embarrassed.

Owner59 -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:32:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: So leftists are happy that the housing market continues to plummet, because on paper it makes food and energy inflation seem insignificant... That about sum it up? Nope. Your complete and intentional misrepresentation. Try addressing real points. When you have to make up positions, you've got nothing. Trolls can`t help troll`n.[:D]

Sanity -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:33:37 AM)
No, youre unwilling to or incapable of understanding the point I made Though its clear enough and easy enough to understand

flcouple2009 -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:34:00 AM)
Pointing out you've posted crap before, doesn't make it correct the second time.

Sanity -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:35:56 AM)
The factual articles I posted are the focus, your ignoring reality doesnt make it go away quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 Pointing out you've posted crap before, doesn't make it correct the second time.

Musicmystery -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:36:06 AM)
quote: Trying not to date myself but when I was 1st buying gas to cut lawns with as a teen,a gal. was 35 cents. You're as bad as the rest of them on this. A price increase in a single good is not (necessarily) inflation. When I was a kid, gas was 25 cents. In 2010 dollars, that's $1.85. Inflation accounts for $1.60 of today's price. Supply, demand, cartels, politics and taxes account for the rest.

MrRodgers -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:37:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 ^ See that`s yer problem.You think collarchat is reality.[:D] quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: Not deflation- more like a currency devaluation. Like the cost of running a household has not gone up 10% this year. Some of us actually pay bills to run a household and those costs are at least 10% higher. See, here's your confusion. If instead of inflation, you said the cost to run a household had risen 10% due to increases in oil and food prices, I could agree (aside from that you made up the percentage of increase, but yes, they've risen and it makes an impact). Trying not to date myself but when I was 1st buying gas to cut lawns with as a teen,a gal. was 35 cents. In other words inflation happens.And will always happen.Even Ron Paul can`t make that go away or claim to be able to. Inflation in our monetary system is caused almost exclusively by speculation (via paper) in commodities. Core inflation in the US has otherwise been very reasonable. To the extent the feds would tax paper profits, would proportionally dampen inflation by a very large margin. But Ron Paul like all of the others, would much prefer...to stay alive.

Musicmystery -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:39:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity No, youre unwilling to or incapable of understanding the point I made Though its clear enough and easy enough to understand Wrong again. Now, if you want to discuss how factors like speculation and the world political spectrum are contributing to spikes in oil and a global food shortage/price increase, I'm there. The rest of the stuff you just made up.

Musicmystery -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:40:43 AM)
quote: Inflation in our monetary system is caused almost exclusively by speculation (via paper) in commodities. Core inflation in the US has otherwise been very reasonable. Again, no. First, monetary inflation is quite low. Speculation in commodities is spiking particularly food and oil prices. That's not the same as inflation. Doesn't anyone take Economics 101 anymore?

flcouple2009 -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:41:16 AM)
As was pointed out to you several times the article made no mention of what you tried to twist it into. It is your way. Posting articles which do not support the point your trying to make but insisting they do. Your post and reality are on complete different ends of the spectrum.

pahunkboy -> RE: BREAKING: Ron Paul to Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning on ABC Good Morning America 7 (5/13/2011 6:42:02 AM)
Ron Paul is the only guy who will fix these problems.

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