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sunshinemiss -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 5:27:13 PM)

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jewelsthepoet -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 5:27:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Diana50


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Or they could be married and just wanting to cyber.

One guy who wanted to meet me but disappeared when I insisted on getting his phone first. WTF???

Another one gave me his phone but asked me not to call or text unless he initiated the convo.

Two asked me to not call after 7 PM. They were not shift workers [8|]

A few only emailed me during their work hours.

I got red flags about two guys, looked them up in my county's Clerks of Courts database, found they each had two domestic violence charges, and declined to meet them.

(I have met lots of nice people as well, but that's off topic.)







Speaking of checking them out .... can anyone access those files?



Actually, pretty much. You can go to the library and scan old newspapers or even better, buy a membership with a BBB registered information company that allows you do do background checks on people or even a one-time fee will work if it's one person in particular, but you have to know some general details, age, date of birth is preferred, full first and last name and good to know about where they were born. I've used them, kept me out of harms way a few times.




BonesFromAsh -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 6:06:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

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Who are you kidding....that's the fricken' Quote of the Year !





sunshinemiss -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 6:11:26 PM)

It's only May, honey. Hold on...




falccon -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 6:23:23 PM)

some are not sincere, and they have no intentions of bringing to it real time. they feel safe behind the screen,imho.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 6:26:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Diana50

I've had many many subs/slaves show a great amount of interest, but when asked to meet in person, or sometimes, even talk on the phone, they make all kinds of excuses.

One question on that: WHY????



D-I-A-R-R-H-E-A ! ! !
 
 
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Rochsub2009 -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 7:00:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

With all respect to the other posters on this thread, do you really want someone in your life who won't meet you at Starbucks for fear of getting raped? That is someone who will punish you again and again for the indiscretions of the doms in his or her past. Healthy people know that coffee is just coffee.


I hate to sound callous, but I have to agree with RedMagic on this one.

I feel for anyone who has been raped or attacked.  But if that experience makes it difficult for the person to now meet for a cup of coffee or a munch, then that person is not the right one for me.  It doesn't mean they're bad people.  But they're definitely not a good fit for me.

As far as the OP's question, I tend to like to meet fairly quickly.  I don't like to waste time with endless cyber crap.  I believe that meeting in real life is the best way to weed out the fakes.  It's also the best way to determine if there's "chemistry".  I don't know about anyone else, but I can't determine if there's chemistry without meeting. 

I once had a woman that I met on CM take me through 2 months worth of daily chats on Yahoo IM.  She would message me constantly, and she kept asking me to send her more pictures of myself.  The photo requests started making me think that "she" was really a "he".  But anytime I'd suggest meeting, she'd get defensive and say that I was "topping from the bottom". 

According to CM, she only lived 2 miles away from me, so I suggested meeting at a munch, the local Walmart (what could possibly be more public than Walmart?), Starbucks, the grocery store, and her favorite restaurant.  Each time, she said "no", and told me that she would determine when we'd finally meet.  I was pretty certain that she was into me, because she'd send me IM's 20 times per day, and she was constantly asking me for pictures.  Finally, after over 2 months of this, I gave up and told her that I was no longer interested in meeting her.

Perhaps I was impatient, but I just don't see what more you need to learn about a person after over 1,000 instant messages, 50 e-mails, 20 telephone conversations, and 15 photographs.  Eventually, you have to be comfortable enough to meet.  If you don't feel comfortable, then find someone else who does make you feel comfortable.  But stringing someone along for months is just silly.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 7:25:06 PM)

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Well then i guess that says that you've never been raped, assaulted, or physically threatened or abused.
all those listed and more. it never stopped me from meeting people. those are just excuses not to live. i don't use the internet to meet people, i do that the old fashioned way, in bars, in stores, at work, on the bus, wherever.

hannah lynn




NuevaVida -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 7:40:22 PM)

~ Fast Reply ~

I just said this on a similar thread in the Health section.  There's no right or wrong here, folks.  People need to do what they're comfortable doing.  If someone needs to meet right away then meet right away.  If someone needs to wait, then wait.  If someone wants to meet right away and the other needs to wait, then maybe they're not matched from the outset.




Yourmalepet -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 8:13:44 PM)

I think that for the most part, guys who say they are submissive are really online "online" submissive.  When push comes to shove, they don't really want to be in a femdom relationship, and so it's easier to wank and run.  Many, many others though are just cautious..it's a crazy world out there and it's not like you are going to tell your buddies you are going to meet some woman who will hopefully beat your tail down.  Or others have a serious vanilla life, and they don't want to chance messing it up.  Its a complicated questions really.




tazzygirl -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 9:25:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: divi

Maybe they're just not that into you ?


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ResidentSadist -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 9:45:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA
quote:

ORIGINAL: Diana50
I've had many many subs/slaves show a great amount of interest, but when asked to meet in person, or sometimes, even talk on the phone, they make all kinds of excuses.

One question on that: WHY????

D-I-A-R-R-H-E-A ! ! !

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That BIG ASS font is the same color as a link.  I can't tell you happy I am that you didn't link us to the giant diarrhea




myotherself -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 10:37:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist



That BIG ASS font is the same color as a link.  I can't tell you happy I am that you didn't link us to the giant diarrhea



Yeah, because that would be terrible... [8|]




hematitan -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 11:26:27 PM)

Everyone has covered a lot of possible reasons, from legit to not so legit.

Personally, at the moment, I'm not big on the idea of dating much or meeting people. I'm a full-time student, I work, I don't live alone, and I'm currently without a car. Right now, the idea of arranging meetings and going out on dates just feels more like a hassle than anything else, and I'm not really "in the market" for a relationship, anyway. If I happen to meet someone whom I'm really, seriously interested in, I'll cross that bridge then. Otherwise, I'm fine with waiting a bit until I feel like my life has a bit more room for that type of thing. But then, I'd like to think that I wouldn't give the impression to someone that I'm serious about meeting and having a relationship when I'm not, either.




SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/13/2011 11:53:39 PM)

There is no exact reason, that will apply to every person. It looks like the other posters have covered all of the "reasons" I've run into.
I don't do online well, and don't do it for long. It always seems that once I begin chatting, most take liberties, beyond what I consider normal, for a person I haven't yet met.

I'd be understanding regarding not meeting quickly, if the person I'm communicating with, lives "flight hours away," and cannot afford to come, because of work, or finances. However, I'm fairly impatient, if someone lives 1-3hours drive away, has a car/public transportation access, and declines meeting within days/weeks.
I don't mean to be insensitive to anyone who's had negative experiences, but I don't think taking long before meeting a bad person, will necessarily give you insight into who they are. I think most people can hide idiosyncrasies online. In real, face to face time, I find it's easier to see, and feel them.

That's just me, with my $.02 worth. M




jewelsthepoet -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/14/2011 12:39:06 AM)

While i've stated reasons why some people don't want to meet immediately, i've never stated my stance on it, though i've gotten quite a bit of flack from people for defending people who don't want to meet right away and stated reasons why it's good to err on the side of caution.

To me.. if someone's not willing to spend time getting to know me online a bit before meeting somewhere, then that's a bit of a red flag. I've done the whole... let's meet within a week or two of starting to talk to someone and the first thing i know of is because we met, we're exclusive, in a relationship, etc. "I" do not jump into anything anymore. That was me 15+ years ago before i suffered trauma to an already traumatized back and ended up spending a year of my life in a wheelchair.

I don't have access to public or private transportation and while i'm not using a walker or wheelchair anymore, i still do have to use a cane sometimes. Between drunk drivers and abusive people, my back has taken about all it's going to take and i am more than a little shy about meeting someone i want to impress and it being a day where a cane is necessary. Since i can't predict which days those are going to be, i usually wait until i feel comfortable enough with the person to explain my physical handicaps and that's generally before meeting, because i would like to meet them on a good day when pain doesn't make me agitated or irritable or have a tendency to snap at people. I haven't been in any relationships in 2 years because of the fear of trying to meet someone who could handle my physical situation.

Yes, i am an overly cautious person. And while i don't really give a shit what people think of me, i do like to at least try to give off a good impression the first time around, or at least a decent one. Hard to do when you're severely restricted on what activities you can participate in on that day because of a physical problem that is, to put it best, sporadic in how severe it is. While you expect that Doms are supposed to be at least reasonably empathetic and caring people, a lot of them see you the first time with a cane and you can hear the thought.. what have i gotten myself into. When in a submissive state, those kinds of judgments can and do sting. Most days i do fine with minimal, if any, help.. other days... i'd rather someone just numb me from the skull down because i can't bear the pain.

Public places make the entire scenario even more humiliating if someone just up and leaves you there, especially in this extremely small, ultra conservative town who thinks i'm the devil because i have a nose ring. Also, our cab only works during certain hours of the day, not at all at night and they don't get much broker than i am. So i have to rely on friends and their schedules to get anywhere because nothing this side of town is ever open after the sun goes down except gas stations, only one of those, and no where suitable for meeting people is open that i am physically capable of walking to. Not to mention i'm recovering from agoraphobia and i've not been out of the wheelchair a whole 2 years yet, so that makes meeting people a little more difficult than what some of you seem to appreciate. I'm 30 minutes away from Kansas City Metropolitan area. Does that mean i can get there? No, it does not. I don't like crowded places, they make me antsy, but i can handle that, however, any potential meeting has to be where i live, at least the town anyways, and because it's such a small town and i'm seen as an oddity around here, i am very careful about who i meet, simply because it's easier to be cautious than to be barraged with a bunch of stupid it's not your business questions later. If i was anywhere else, the situation would probably be different, at least to some degree.


So now, are you happy? There are some situations that call for hesitation in meeting someone initially because a) if it doesn't seem promising online then it's a waste of their gas to drive down here and gas is not cheap and we are all not made of money and b) there are days when i simply cannot get out of the house as well as c) some people i just don't know well enough from online to meet them in person because like with anything else, i like to take my time to get to know people. And before anyone says anything rude or otherwise, i have gone to messenger with 3 people, spoken to (not all of the same) 3 on the phone, met 1 in person. One person i met on here i knew before but it turns out that he isn't so nice when it comes to the whole he is in the position of control and it's more than just a casual fling kinda thing, so i didn't ever meet him, and we went straight to phone off here instead of to messenger because i'd known him before and he almost made me not come back to this site.




GreedyTop -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/14/2011 12:42:12 AM)

everyone has their reasons for meeting or not meeting someone quickly.

it's all good, IMO.

of course, I am currently in a mode of not seeking anything other than friends, so I feel like I can take longer to meet.  I tend to want to meet sooner than later when meeting a 'potential'.  But thats just me...




pyroaquatic -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/14/2011 1:16:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jewelsthepoet

Well then i guess that says that you've never been raped, assaulted, or physically threatened or abused. Not to mention that there are a lot of social anxiety issues that come up with some people like agoraphobia, social anxiety disorder, general anxiety disorders and other things like ptsd that can't be controlled so easily.


Gentle Hands in the Sunshine or Sinister Smiles in the Shadows.

I fear the rejection of my impulsive self because my careful articulated side is rarely available when needed. Stack this on top of what has happened in the past...

Why should I trust a random stranger or belay my defenses to expose juicy vulnerabilities to the next Johnny/Jane McBewilling?

The worst form of predation nary bares its teeth in such vicious fashions. Some call me paranoid. You can take paranoid back.

So I put up my cold concrete walls and let people through the gates. Once it gets to that point there are questions that tear at me.

What is the depth of their character? Motive? Reasoning?

I've realized that I have pushed far too many back than what is deemed healthy. Not the most sociable fellow.




GreedyTop -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/14/2011 1:19:28 AM)

wow, Pyro..that was totally awesome poetry...




SexyBossyBBW -> RE: Why the hesitation to meet? (5/14/2011 1:27:55 AM)

Hey Jewel,
I didn't know your situation physically, and cannot even imagine wanting to meet anyone, if I'd been through so many horrors. This of course, only proves that you're probably emotionally stronger than I am.

As to
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Public places make the entire scenario even more humiliating if someone just up and leaves you there
I wouldn't find it humiliating, if someone I don't know, shows me he's a butthead immediately. Less time wasted in my book.

I wasn't criticizing you, or saying your position is wrong. I was simply responding to the OP, according to my experience, and feelings. My position is different, not better or worse than yours.
To be fair, I think you would agree, that yours is more the exception, than the rule. People meet all of the time, and most of them, probably don't turn into a horror movie flick.

P.S. pyroaquatic, that was beautiful to read. M




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