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twicehappy -> RE: Man? (5/12/2006 6:55:49 AM)
Honor, Integrity, an Ethical Code, Compassion, Mercy, Strength of Character and of Arm, Manners, a Brain, a Soul, and a Heart. (On a personal note of preference a beard, tattoos and a Harley is always nice)

ImpGrrl -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 1:13:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: perverseangelic I'm pretty simple. A man is someone who identifies as male and is a fully functioning and resonably productive memeber of adult society. I was going to reply to the OP here, but this says it perfectly for me - not even specific genitalia required.

irishbynature -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 1:21:56 PM)
I guess every person has their own definition of "a man" or what a man should be...but I'll give it a try. -sensitive enough to show his softer, emotional side...(crying, laughter, pleasure) -Affectionate and willing to accept affection. -Protecting. -Intelligent. -Open to new ideas (willing to share and discuss them). -Not afraid to tell you how He feels about you. -Kind. -Willing to be vulnerable when he needs to be...or willing to allow a female to be his shoulder at times. [:)] Irish

Level -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 2:02:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tade Now that I have a son my answer to that is probably a little different than it might have been a year ago. Couldn't tell you what makes a man a man, my father damn sure didn't teach me much about it except what NOT to be, which in his own way made me the man I am. I do know the things I want my son to become, and it has little to do with dominance, although at 11 months he already has many of those traits (2 dominant parents... he's from good stock:) I want him to be in control, without being controlling if that makes any sense. He needs a firm grasp of what is right and what is wrong, as well as the understanding that those can be fluid and change with the situation. I want him to love completely and with no regret. I hope he sees the beauty in everything, from the breeze carrying the scent of blossoming flowers, the warmth of the sun after a cold night, the lines of anything well designed, the love of a good woman. I want him to live his life unashamed of who he is, who he was and who he will become. He needs to see EVERYTHING, not just what he is shown. Hopefully he will understand that there is a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path. I hope he walks his own path, where ever that may lead. Sorry for the mushy response to a straight forward question... Get a little soap boxy when I talk about my boy. I think that's a great post. My respect to you. Level

RiotGirl -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 3:27:12 PM)
Padriag - damn that was good quote: If by Rudyard Kipling If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you; If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise; If you can dream and not make dreams your master; If you can think and not make thoughts your aim, If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two imposters just the same; If can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build them up with worn out tools; If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings, And never breath a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them "Hold on!" If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings nor lose the common touch, If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, If all men count with you, but none too much; If you can fill the unforgiving minute, With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth, and everything that's in it, And, which is more, you'll be a Man my son!

Sinergy -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 3:51:04 PM)
quote: Uhm ... Is the question ... "What makes a man?" quote: ORIGINAL: darq Uhm ... Is the question ... "What makes a man?" "Yeah, that and two testicles" Jeff Bridges, The Big Lebowski. I suppose I could discuss my years of teaching both men and women to fight for their lives, and the corresponding issues with conflict that are gender specific, etc. There was quite a bit written during the Second Wave of Feminism about the ravages of Testosterone Poisoning which men had to deal with that turned them from rational human beings into beasts. On the other side of the fence is the old adage that one should never trust something that bleeds for seven days and doesnt die. All kidding aside, isnt attempting to define what a "Man" is similar to making the statement that "All cats are grey in the dark." Yes, while some aspects may be true in some cases, coming up with a generalization that fits an entire population falling into the same trap of stereotyping and bigotry which still plague our species? From my perspective, somebody says they are a "Man" or a "Woman" or a "Farm Animal" or a "Munchkin," I am disinclined to argue over it. I honestly believe that the individual has the right to call themselves whatever they choose to call themselves, however they choose to define that label they attach to themself. Just me, could be wrong, but there you go. Sinergy

MstrTiger -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 4:42:23 PM)
“All kidding aside, isn’t attempting to define what a "Man" is similar to making the statement that "All cats are grey in the dark." Yes, while some aspects may be true in some cases, coming up with a generalization that fits an entire population falling into the same trap of stereotyping and bigotry which still plague our species?” - sinergy I totally agree with what you say though if you will read the opening message again you will see that my reason for starting this thread has nothing to do with stereotyping anybody. What I wanted to do was look into peoples opinions on the issue and see what it might say about them it was not an attempt to define anything beyond peoples personal preferences. So far I think it has given insight into what qualities people hold as important and the differences in what dom/mes and subs have been saying has been quite interesting. Some people have said they judge what is good or bad within a man by the relationship they had with their own farther and there has also been some good poetry which deals with the question. Tade says how his opinion in the issue might have changed a little since he has had a son and he went on to discuss the qualities he would hope to instil in his child which I think made most people who read it happy and I think gave some people a new perspective on the question at hand.

Lashra -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 8:27:31 PM)
To me a man is a human being who is intelligent, honest, loyal, sexy, responsible, respectable, brave, humourous, hard working, ambitious, cultured, cares about the environment, he respects others who are different then he is and believes in the equality of ALL human beings regardless of gender, race, religion or sexual orientation. He can be in control or not, either he can handle with diginity, efficency and grace. He does not need to be in control to be a man as he is as happy on his knees before his Lady with his gaze looking up lovingly at her. ~Lashra

Kedikat -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 8:36:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou quote: ORIGINAL: Kedikat A male or female should be adaptable to the situation at hand, and smart enough to change as it changes. Specialization is for ants. Genitalia does make the gender. Human beings of every type can be equipped with either set. Be your best. Then you are a decent human being. It looks like you are set in your beliefs, there. Odd comment. The obvious point was the variability of what people are and can be. As long as they be the best they can be. How is an opinion against set in constraints, set in opinion? Oxymoron.

sweetlov -> RE: Man? (5/13/2006 8:51:14 PM)
A Master does not have to 'fight' to keep his slave. If he has truely begun to Master her, she will find herself bound in the chains of Devotion, Love and Surrender. Mastery is not a 'game' it is a lifes persuit. A Man must first Master himself and his life, then he may begin to try to "Master another".

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Man? (5/14/2006 7:50:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kedikat quote: ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou quote: ORIGINAL: Kedikat A male or female should be adaptable to the situation at hand, and smart enough to change as it changes. Specialization is for ants. Genitalia does make the gender. Human beings of every type can be equipped with either set. Be your best. Then you are a decent human being. It looks like you are set in your beliefs, there. Odd comment. The obvious point was the variability of what people are and can be. As long as they be the best they can be. How is an opinion against set in constraints, set in opinion? Oxymoron. well if one takes the view that "A male or female should be adaptable to the situation at hand, and smart enough to change as it changes." which I'm not saying is bad, necessarily. But it's also a definitive statement thus a declaration of a set viewpoint. So your main belief is one should be adaptable. I don't personally agree though. Most things I consider important aren't prone to adaptation. Like all the important moral values, such as one shouldn't steal, cheat, murderer,belittle, people are equal, children should be protected.... Those aren't prone to adaptation to me. It's the fringe elements that are prone to adaptation, such as profession, living conditions, friends that are prone to adaptation. But my core principles that define my moral nature are set in stone and not prone to adaptation. Maybe you are talking of something different. It reads though as if adaptability is the most important quality which I highly disagree with. And as it reads is a rigid philosphy not allowing for set in stone priniciples.

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