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Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 10:26:59 PM

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Ron Paul Would Have Opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul told Chris Mathews on MSNBC Friday that he would not have voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, if he were a member of congress at the time. Though Paul said that while he thought Jim Crow laws were illegal, he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act "because of the property rights element, not because they got rid of the Jim Crow laws." Video of the interview is below.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/05/ron-paul-would-have-opposed-civil-rights-act-1964/37726/

1st the bin-gotten comment.Now this.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 10:33:21 PM

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Hmph. If anyone believes the poppycock he is spouting now, they are just as insane as he is.

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When Matthews appeared surprised, Paul accused him of being a demagogue on the issue. "He said that talk of the segregated South that the Civil Rights Act aimed to reform is too old to be relevant, because "Whites Only" signs are "ancient history." Like many who opposed the civil rights reforms at their time, Paul said, in true libertarian form, that Jim Crow laws would have ended anyways, because of the free market.

Wow. The free market would have fixed it. Amazing. I remember seeing "whites only" signs in many places in the south when i was young. How much longer were people supposed to wait for the "free market" to fix things? As long as we are now waiting for the "free market" to fix health care?

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 11:01:41 PM

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His point is spot on. You either believe the in how our government was set up to govern or you do not. Sadly the majority of Americans believe the federal government should have the greatest control of their day to day lives when in fact it should be the states. But hey don't take my word for it just read the constitution.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 11:09:10 PM

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Unfortunately you've decided to disagree with a certain someone who will repeat herself, in different ways, with "facts" often long shown false, until you stop responding.

Good luck.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 11:13:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: douinjoisukenkak

His point is spot on. You either believe the in how our government was set up to govern or you do not. Sadly the majority of Americans believe the federal government should have the greatest control of their day to day lives when in fact it should be the states. But hey don't take my word for it just read the constitution.

Oh yes, lets just agree with how they set it up and disregard the fact that they made it changeable.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 11:17:56 PM

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Unfortunately you've decided to disagree with a certain someone who will repeat herself, in different ways, with "facts" often long shown false, until you stop responding.

Good luck.

If you actually could get anything right no one would disagree with you.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 11:40:34 PM

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I'm having a really tough job trying to understand how someone who claims to be a 'libertarian' (which I take to be very pro-individual liberty and civil rights) has a problem with a civil rights law or could take any anti-desegregation position.

The first explanation that springs to mind is that the civil rights of blacks don't count in this person's mind. Because if one believes the rights of all citizens, irrespective of their colour, are equal, there is no way in the world any one could possibly oppose de-segregation as it existed in the old South.

That the zennys of this world, with their obnoxious racism, sympathise with this stance seems to add weight to this explanation.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/14/2011 11:40:56 PM

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Continue, it's fun to watch train wrecks sometimes too!

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 12:04:14 AM

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Sorta like watching you make an idiot of yourself on the gun thread. Quite entertaining.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 12:05:58 AM

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The three-fifths compromise is found in Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution:

“ Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

Now, tell me anyone truly believes this is the way this country should be run.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 1:14:46 AM

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It used to work. The system doesn't work now. What have you to say ?

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 1:22:25 AM

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What used to work, T? Keeping minorities in "their place"?

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 4:12:44 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

I'm having a really tough job trying to understand how someone who claims to be a 'libertarian' (which I take to be very pro-individual liberty and civil rights) has a problem with a civil rights law or could take any anti-desegregation position.

The first explanation that springs to mind is that the civil rights of blacks don't count in this person's mind. Because if one believes the rights of all citizens, irrespective of their colour, are equal, there is no way in the world any one could possibly oppose de-segregation as it existed in the old South.

That the zennys of this world, with their obnoxious racism, sympathise with this stance seems to add weight to this explanation.

Libertarianism in the American style is utopian nonsense: attractive and appealing to muse over but impractical in application for the simple reason that it gives free reign to unregulated greed. It is only a stalking horse for social darwinism to which the ascendent and privileged class members rally. It rationalizes stealthily class and race prejudice by assuming property is more important than life and pretending we have no social contract or obligation other than what we wish to distribute by way of charity.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 4:21:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: douinjoisukenkak

His point is spot on. You either believe the in how our government was set up to govern or you do not. Sadly the majority of Americans believe the federal government should have the greatest control of their day to day lives when in fact it should be the states. But hey don't take my word for it just read the constitution.

Oh, for fuck's sake!

Let me ask you what exactly is the difference?

Either it's federal or state control, but it's still control.

And without some form of control it would be a lawless society.

The controls were not put there by a secret, hidden group. They were put there by the people.

You know, that whole thing of government by the people, for the people.

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 5:37:06 AM

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Why are you highkacking your own thread OP?

This thread is about coffins. Where is the topic?

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 5:40:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

What used to work, T? Keeping minorities in "their place"?

maybe. over night one minority here slashed anther one so bad he went to THE medical center in our area. It will be a long summer with these 2 groups- having meles and riots here.

I wish they would go back to where they came from. (Philly/NYC)

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 5:42:19 AM

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You think America needs more goths in politics?

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 5:55:23 AM

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"If you actually could get anything right no one would disagree with you."

On CM ? I am literally ROFL here. Thank you. You could say the sky is blue and there would be 12 pages of posts ! (think I did that once)

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 6:05:49 AM

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Libertarianism in the American style is utopian nonsense: attractive and appealing to muse over but impractical in application for the simple reason that it gives free reign to unregulated greed. It is only a stalking horse for social darwinism to which the ascendent and privileged class members rally. It rationalizes stealthily class and race prejudice by assuming property is more important than life and pretending we have no social contract or obligation other than what we wish to distribute by way of charity.

reallly?

you life is your property

your opinion is your property

your liberty is your property

how do you put property at the bottom of the pile when its everything

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RE: Ron Paul pounds another nail into his coffin. - 5/15/2011 6:07:17 AM

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Ron Paul Would Have Opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul told Chris Mathews on MSNBC Friday that he would not have voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, if he were a member of congress at the time. Though Paul said that while he thought Jim Crow laws were illegal, he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act "because of the property rights element, not because they got rid of the Jim Crow laws." Video of the interview is below.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/05/ron-paul-would-have-opposed-civil-rights-act-1964/37726/

1st the bin-gotten comment.Now this.

nice out of context spin

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