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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 6:23:07 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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"how bout not equating death with stopping" Alanis Morissette, Thank U
 
There's nothing to say you can't just stop looking FOR NOW, and then go back later.



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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 6:30:23 AM   
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You'll find what you want when you least expect it.  Keep trying - but maybe you can change how or where you're looking.

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RE: When is Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 7:06:13 AM   
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When you decide it is really, though i would say step back and take a breather. It was during my own 3 or 4 month "i am done looking" hiatus that my current owners profile popped up when i logged in to send an email. The search is difficult for all concerned.

I have also watched my Mistress's frustrations with finding a male sub/slave for herself. It kind of makes you think what is wrong with me when really there is not anything wrong at all. She is beautiful and talented and offers much; they have had males be here but it did not work out for various reasons. 

Between the three of us we started several threads trying to discern the reasoning behind the minds of male subs/slaves; we drew some conclusions but got no real answers. So after a brief respite on her part the search continues.



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RE: When is Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 7:42:09 AM   
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I don't bother looking these days for even a play partner... just not worth the energy these days... if I find one, I find one, and if not, well, I still have more than enough things to fill up my day with to occupy myself... ain't worth stressing over, but htat's just me...

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RE: When is Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 1:13:09 PM   
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I spent 4 years grooming a sub to be a slave....just before we were to have our collaring ceremony I was in a rather bad car accident.  When I got out of the hospital 2 weeks later, all I found at home was a letter saying that he couldn't handle the posibility of me being in a wheel chair the rest of my life.  The key word is POSSIBILITY.  I am not in a wheel chair, I still have some slight mobility issues due to my injuries but I am fully mobile.  The time and effort it took to get him where I wanted him to be was exhausting for it to culminate into nothing.  SO if he is not already slave,  I am really not interested in playing the sub to slave game.


That is just wrong in so many ways. I don't understand how anyone who cared even a little bit about you could just up and abandon you like that in your time of need. The least the A** hole could have done was to help you get healed before making a decision to leave you. It is just as well you found out now about him before you spent even more time and energy on him. To just leave you before you came home from the hospital is so cold.  Excuse me but that's Bull S**t. I am really sorry you had to experience that. I can't belive your soon to be collared slave had any humanity in him at all. Not all subs/slaves are like that, please believe me. And please don't give up. There are some of us subs who could really appreciate a Mistress with the patience to train us.

Nikki Ann

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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 3:25:48 PM   
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Time for a cup of coffee... prop those feet.... alittle relaxing music... perhaps a good book or movie... got kids... park time... even if it's sitting under a tree while they run about. Clear the head... spend some precious alone time... pampering thy self. Talking with friends... in and out the lifestyle. Taking a small look about here and there.. but at same time... not. Nibble a few snacks while resting.. (meaning subs...lol).... maybe go out and enjoy a full course meal (Socializing with known life style group)

But giving up?... NEVER.... had enough... everyone does.. of the games and the bullshit that goes on. So yeah... a vacation is in order here.... but never quit... life is too sweet... lots of goodies out there to still enjoy.


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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 3:28:23 PM   
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Maybe you are fishing in the wrong pond.  For instance, I would never search on the internet.  That is like fishing for bass in a mud puddle.

Only you can know when to call off the search, but if it was Me and I was having craptastic luck like that, I would stop pointing the finger at everyone else and evaluate My searching habits to see how I might improve My chances of finding the one that is right for Me.  Just a thought.

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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 6:57:23 PM   
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quote:


That is like fishing for bass in a mud puddle.


LMAO Now that is a great line.  May have to use that one eventually. =)

- Dustyn


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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 8:36:38 PM   
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When is enough... Enough?


rather simple answer actually...

It's when you get what you want.... or you give up getting what you want!

really it's not a question... It's a choice.

Are you going to get what you want... or are you going to give up?

If the you don't think the effort is worth the reward... then give up!  However, if you think the rewards is worth those efforts... enjoy the efforts and all the games... for in the end... The success will make it all worth it.  I know it was for me!!!

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RE: When is Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 10:47:39 PM   
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Ummm....................

At 2:00

(sorry, couldn't resist.  long week)

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RE: When is Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 10:51:07 PM   
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LOL Owned... coming and going again are you? 

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RE: When is Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/12/2006 11:17:53 PM   
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~whaps True~  I'm going to stop telling you stuff.

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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/13/2006 12:10:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

I have been in the lifestyle for several years now.  I would never deem to call myself an expert because after all, what is a Pert and am I sure I want to be an Ex???  Just a little lite humor.

As I said I have been in the lifestyle several years (14),  I have had a couple of subs in those years but never anyone I would call a slave.  I have searched for a slave for the past few years but there always seems to be some reason (on their part) why they can't serve me.  Either I am not close enough in proximity, They don't want to relocate to Oklahoma (they can't make the money here that they make in their current locations) or we just simply don't see eye to eye on issues. 

My question is when is enough enough?  I am very tired of going thru the rigamarole associated with interviewing subs/slaves and getting to know them for it all to culminate into the abyss of nothingness.  If there is anyone out there that is having the same or similar issues or if you just have a comment, please discuss this with me as I am really considering calling an end to this whole thing for myself.  I am a natural DOMINANT and just tired of playing all the games that people play.

Ms Loren


Ms Loren,

After reading your profile and the full thread, I think the best suggestions you've gotten here are Ms MacComb's, Lady Zephyr's and and julia's.

The more conditions you pre-set for a fulfilling, contented relationship, the less likely you are to find one.  The more pre-conceptions you have about the ideal slave, the less likely he is to even exist.

In this world of WIITWD, Dominant Women are far outnumbered by submissive men.  If, after 14 years of looking, a Dominant Woman cannot find a submissive man who meets her requirements, I think it would suggest that she needs to look within herself for the cause of the problem.

For instance, you say in your profile, that once your slave is owne by you, "then I own EVERYTHING about you."  Yet in your post, one of the problems you state is, "they can't make the money here that they make in their current locations."  What difference does it make how much money he can make there, unless your requirements for his income are unrealistic?

I would suggest that you step back and examine yourself: who you are, what you want and what you can live with.

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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/13/2006 8:08:25 AM   
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I don't think you find slaves, I think you grow them.  It is like planting seeds and wondering why trees didn't sprout from them. 

(Note, while this sounds like I am putting "slaves" at the top of oh, lets say a tree, I am not.  I just believe that sort of submission comes from growing together, not from writting the right ad copy.

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RE: When in Enough Enough?!?!? - 5/13/2006 9:15:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

quote:

ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

I have been in the lifestyle for several years now.  I would never deem to call myself an expert because after all, what is a Pert and am I sure I want to be an Ex???  Just a little lite humor.

As I said I have been in the lifestyle several years (14),  I have had a couple of subs in those years but never anyone I would call a slave.  I have searched for a slave for the past few years but there always seems to be some reason (on their part) why they can't serve me.  Either I am not close enough in proximity, They don't want to relocate to Oklahoma (they can't make the money here that they make in their current locations) or we just simply don't see eye to eye on issues. 

My question is when is enough enough?  I am very tired of going thru the rigamarole associated with interviewing subs/slaves and getting to know them for it all to culminate into the abyss of nothingness.  If there is anyone out there that is having the same or similar issues or if you just have a comment, please discuss this with me as I am really considering calling an end to this whole thing for myself.  I am a natural DOMINANT and just tired of playing all the games that people play.

Ms Loren


Ms Loren,

After reading your profile and the full thread, I think the best suggestions you've gotten here are Ms MacComb's, Lady Zephyr's and and julia's.

The more conditions you pre-set for a fulfilling, contented relationship, the less likely you are to find one.  The more pre-conceptions you have about the ideal slave, the less likely he is to even exist.

In this world of WIITWD, Dominant Women are far outnumbered by submissive men.  If, after 14 years of looking, a Dominant Woman cannot find a submissive man who meets her requirements, I think it would suggest that she needs to look within herself for the cause of the problem.

For instance, you say in your profile, that once your slave is owne by you, "then I own EVERYTHING about you."  Yet in your post, one of the problems you state is, "they can't make the money here that they make in their current locations."  What difference does it make how much money he can make there, unless your requirements for his income are unrealistic?

I would suggest that you step back and examine yourself: who you are, what you want and what you can live with.


The highlighted quote was not complete.  What I originally said was, "They don't want to relocate" I left out the word BECAUSE.  I didn't think it was necessary to put it since I put that quote in parenthesis.  Money has nothing to do with whether a slave is good for me or not.  I have found that most feel as if their pocket book will buy them a position as a slave.  If money were important to me, I would be a financial DOMME.  I have never taken money or a tribute of any kind from a sub or slave that wasn't in my care. 
 
This thread is part of my soul searching, thats why I started it.  I thank most everyone for the input, it gives me something to think about.  I won't change my stance on sexual relations with subs/slaves...but that is not to say they won't have sexual situations.  I recently deleted quite a bit of things from my profile.  I was about to delete all of it when I decided to post this question.  I have had ENOUGH for now and although I know that if you are who you are, you are drawn back to this lifestyle with a vengence...it has happened to me a few times in the past years. 
 
I don't just keep my searching on the internet, I have met and speak with subs locally as well as from a distance but there is always something...not necessarily from my point of view.  I admit I am picky but we all have a right to be with the issues apparent in today's living.  If we were more picky there wouldn't be so many negative issues hitting us from every corner.  Perhaps I just need a few days to clear my mind.  I am headed to Vegas in 2 days for a week of shows, hanging out and just having fun.  Thanks again everyone for their input.  See you when I get back.

MsLoren


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