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Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 4:21:47 AM   
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Strauss-Kahn could really swap some war stories with Ahhhhrnold

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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 4:38:39 AM   
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So violent rape is the same as a consensual affair??


Wow....

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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 4:40:03 AM   
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She was one that probably turned him to being a liberal.

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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 4:53:24 AM   
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Ugh! His ex looks horrible. Did she have plastic surgery?

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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 5:03:46 AM   
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So violent rape is the same as a consensual affair??




Now there is a 'Hannity tactic' if I ever saw one.  Nowhere was that claim made, but you make it, and then base your fake outrage against it.



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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 5:05:39 AM   
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She was one that probably turned him to being a liberal.



RINO ballast off a sinking ship, eh?

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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 5:09:08 AM   
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So violent rape is the same as a consensual affair??




Now there is a 'Hannity tactic' if I ever saw one.  Nowhere was that claim made, but you make it, and then base your fake outrage against it.





Of course you never meant that. When you said they could swap war stories, you meant they were both in the service, right? You didn't mean that the two situations were the same.


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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 5:25:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

Strauss-Kahn could really swap some war stories with Ahhhhrnold

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20490341,00.html


The maid was not fondled, as you so quaintly put it, she was violently attacked and raped. How you could possibly equate that with having an affair with an employee I have no idea. The relationship may have been a secret one, but she did birth his child, who he supported, she did retire from her position, and I assume on HIS retirement package.

Men who don't seem to get there is a difference between consensual and non-consensual sex make the rest of the male gender look bad. Shame on you !!


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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 6:07:56 AM   
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How you could possibly equate that with having an affair with an employee I have no idea.





I don't.

You do.


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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 6:30:27 AM   
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Strauss-Kahn could really swap some war stories with Ahhhhrnold


I see, that was MY intepretation, was it? Then explain this statement, if you please:

Strauss-Kahn could really swap some war stories with Ahhhhrnold


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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 6:44:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

she was violently attacked and raped.




By the way, let's hold off on that claim just yet.   Either that, or lets insert the word "allegedly"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8517387/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-conspiracy-theories-mount.html


"Conspiracy theories abounded in France yesterday following the publication of a curiously premonitory interview in Libération newspaper.

In the then off-the-record discussion on April 28, the International Monetary Fund chief said he could imagine a scenario where he was framed for a rape he did not commit.

The 62-year old was clearly worried about receiving "low blows" from allies of President Nicolas Sarkozy, whom a series of polls suggested prior to the scandal he would beat in next years' elections should he run."

"He went on to evoke an incident in which he met Mr Sarkozy in the men's room during a G20 summit in Pittsburgh in 2008 and reportedly warned the President to "tell your boys to stop (spreading rumours about my private life) or I'll go to court".

Then Mr Strauss-Kahn told the journalists that he could easily imagine "a woman (who I supposedly) raped in a car park and who had been promised 500,000 or a million euros to invent such a story."





"Another was a Tweet from a French-Canadian political science student in Paris, which appeared on Twitter well before world media broke the story.

Jonathan Pinet, a youth activist in President Sarkozy's UMP party, wrote "a mate in the US just told me that DSK's been arrested in a hotel in NYC an hour ago". A second, three minutes later, read: "I got it from a friend of his who works at the hotel".

A blogger on Le Post, a news website, pointed out that the tweet was posted at 4.59pm New York Time, just 10 minutes after Mr Strauss-Kahn was seized on an Air France plane. Mr Pinet had said he had been arrested an hour previously in his hotel, raising questions on how he had obtained the information so fast."


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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 7:02:55 AM   
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You like alleged rape better? Fine, I shall amend my statement to "allegedly violently attacked and raped."

Now, explain what an alleged non-consensual rape and an alleged consensual affair have in common? Without sidestepping the issue, if you please.

Also, please explain your use of the term "fondle" to describe an alleged violent rape. 

I look forward to an actual explanation as opposed to your obscuring the core issue of how you view rape, alleged or not.


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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 7:07:30 AM   
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I don't have views on rape.

I do have plenty of views on feminism, which is driving this issue for you.



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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 7:10:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

I don't have views on rape.

I do have plenty of views on feminism, which is driving this issue for you.





In other words, you can't come up with a comparison either yet can't admit you were wrong.


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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 7:15:17 AM   
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Smells like a cow pasture... no views on rape? How about it is wrong? How about punishment for those who are convicted of this crime should face the harshest punishments allowed by law?
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ORIGINAL: EternalHoH

I don't have views on rape.

I do have plenty of views on feminism, which is driving this issue for you.






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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 7:18:12 AM   
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In other words, you can't come up with a comparison either yet can't admit you were wrong.




Right or wrong over an assumption you pulled out of your ass?

I think I'll pass.



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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 7:22:07 AM   
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I guess all those on the Right who are claiming that AHHHHHHHHHHnold isnt a TWUE Republican are correct.


It was a woman he was fucking on the side.

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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 7:38:16 AM   
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What does feminism have to do with an alleged rape being compared to an alleged consensual affair? You've just implied non-feminists think being raped is akin to being fondled.

You keep backing yourself into a corner. Again, instead of an explanation, we got a side step (feminism), an obfuscation (I don't have views on rape), and a half-assed [oh yes, the puns are *always* intended] attack (Right or wrong over an assumption you pulled out of your ass? I think I'll pass.)

When you make blatant and inflammatory generalizations that are easily misconstrued, guess what? People misconstrue them. I've done that a time or two. At least I can *attempt* to explain myself.

So far, you have not.

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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 8:08:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mezrem

no views on rape? How about it is wrong? How about punishment for those who are convicted of this crime should face the harshest punishments allowed by law?



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You've just implied non-feminists think being raped is akin to being fondled.




Not quite, but I will say that feminism, over the past 50 years, has created the socially prevailing 'excitement' that you both display on the topic, the very kind of excitement I do not display, and that I am criticized for not displaying.  I'm not a believer in 'the movement' and therefore, my alarm bells do not sound over movement-hyped issues.

You constantly demand an explanation over what? Not being a joiner in your 'excitement' driven by a movement that I don't subscribe to?




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RE: Speaking of fondling the maid..... - 5/17/2011 8:17:08 AM   
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I don't have views on rape.

I do have plenty of views on feminism, which is driving this issue for you.





One was an affair, nothing to allege, they both agreed and admitted to it.

The other is an alleged assault. One didn't agree to it.

Just a minor sticking point for both the legal and intellectual debate of the issue.

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