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TheCabal -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 3:40:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: theRose4U quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal quote: Men would fall over and die if this suddenly became a rule. The porn industry is proof that fantasy is alive and well. Yeah.... just men. snicker Porn guys honestly make me want to vomit...now that guy at the gym [;)] Meh... you're probably just watching the wrong sort of porn. Granted 95% of non-gay porn, the men are just there as props.

domiguy -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 3:43:47 PM)
apparently everyone except, needleandpins....lol.

Arpig -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 3:45:13 PM)
Well sexyred, every time I see your avatar I imagine....oh wait, she said hot guys thinking about her wouldn't bother her. Never mind. To the OP...WTF??? Of course not.

sexyred1 -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 3:46:47 PM)
Arpig, I would not mind you thinking about me if you used your real photo; your new one scares the crap out of me!!

agirl -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 3:48:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Women are not as visual as men...But that certainly does not stop them from objectifying a guy. They don't necessarily look at men as a whole being. They tend to treat me like I am nothing but eye candy. It hurts the soul. Of course!... You have nice skin and a wee jagged bonnet with a captivating halo.......I can't see beyond that..... I SO have your soul in a pincer movement........lol agirl

marsneedswomen -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 3:48:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Perhaps you are just "undressing them with your eyes" or having a conversation that is leading, but sexually charged for you - without them even knowing it. What about masturbating to the sound of his/her voice on the phone but never fessing up to it? Do you believe you need to get consent from someone before you take sexual gratification on their behalf, even if they are totally unaware of it? Akasha I think that you should apply the golden rule here and you will find your answer. mnw

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 4:02:16 PM)
everyone fantasizes about people they meet; honestly i'd be creeped out if someone came up to me and said "i had this fantasy with you in it!" -- i guess unless he was hot. =p haha i keed, i keed. still, men do it to women, women do it to men (and women get away with doing it loudly and in public =p) -- everyone on earth must be terribly unethical.

NuevaVida -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 4:32:32 PM)
quote: Hey, I owe the Unknown Guy at the gym too, but he wasn't really the muscle bound type.... more Lance Armstrong long and lanky type.... I owe a LOT of people, apparently! Uh, Julia, can we talk?[8D] quote: That guy gets around a lot [:D] LMAO! This thread is killing me [:D]

NuevaVida -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 4:34:48 PM)
quote: Arpig, I would not mind you thinking about me if you used your real photo; your new one scares the crap out of me!! It scares me too!

theRose4U -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 4:40:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal quote: ORIGINAL: theRose4U quote: ORIGINAL: TheCabal quote: Men would fall over and die if this suddenly became a rule. The porn industry is proof that fantasy is alive and well. Yeah.... just men. snicker Porn guys honestly make me want to vomit...now that guy at the gym [;)] Meh... you're probably just watching the wrong sort of porn. Granted 95% of non-gay porn, the men are just there as props. Two words for you Ron Jeremy...seriously EEEWWWE!! Pardon me while I go vomit.

aromanholiday -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 5:14:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins having thought about this a bit i've come to the conclusion that i've never mentally undressed anyone. I've undressed people's minds...mentally. Many times. The trouble is, once I imagine the stylish and appropriate attire of attitudes, morals, inhibitions, manners, and good intentions stripped from their mentation, the sharp-clawed, hungry, raw nucleus that is left tends to leap up, pin me against the nearest surface, and viciously and methodically shred me until it is sated. Mentally speaking, of course. ... Well, Ok, that really isn't trouble. [;)]

needlesandpins -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 5:30:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aromanholiday quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins having thought about this a bit i've come to the conclusion that i've never mentally undressed anyone. I've undressed people's minds...mentally. Many times. The trouble is, once I imagine the stylish and appropriate attire of attitudes, morals, inhibitions, manners, and good intentions stripped from their mentation, the sharp-clawed, hungry, raw nucleus that is left tends to leap up, pin me against the nearest surface, and viciously and methodically shred me until it is sated. Mentally speaking, of course. ... Well, Ok, that really isn't trouble. [;)] the beast within? in truth, do that with me and what you have written is more than likely to happen lol needles

Real0ne -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 5:38:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Perhaps you are just "undressing them with your eyes" or having a conversation that is leading, but sexually charged for you - without them even knowing it. What about masturbating to the sound of his/her voice on the phone but never fessing up to it? Do you believe you need to get consent from someone before you take sexual gratification on their behalf, even if they are totally unaware of it? Akasha whats the measuring stick? legally, morally, or spiritually?

LadyConstanze -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 5:50:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep everyone fantasizes about people they meet; honestly i'd be creeped out if someone came up to me and said "i had this fantasy with you in it!" -- i guess unless he was hot. =p haha i keed, i keed. still, men do it to women, women do it to men (and women get away with doing it loudly and in public =p) -- everyone on earth must be terribly unethical. I had this really hot dream about a guy I know, I think if I'd tell him what I did to him in my dream, he'd feel a bit violated (he seems terribly vanilla and a bit uptight) and we possibly couldn't have that easy friendship with "Shall we go for a drink and a chat?" anymore. So I think I will just shut up, but I couldn't help grinning a lot the last time I saw him and he wondered why I was so smiley. The weird thing is, I really don't have the hots for him, I might have if I was single and he would be quite as willing to experiment as he was in my dream, but from what his ex said, he's a bit on the conservative side of sexuality. I guess her making that comment lead to the dream where he was everything but. I don't think I violated him too much, though I bet I would if I told him, he'd be in hiding for the next few years if I'd mention that whips and bondage was involved, it is tempting to just go up and say "Hi ...., you know I had this dream about you, why didn't you tell me you are such a pain slut?" But I guess I value the friendship too much...

xssve -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 7:43:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Perhaps you are just "undressing them with your eyes" or having a conversation that is leading, but sexually charged for you - without them even knowing it. What about masturbating to the sound of his/her voice on the phone but never fessing up to it? Do you believe you need to get consent from someone before you take sexual gratification on their behalf, even if they are totally unaware of it? Akasha No, it's not unethical, its just weird. Exceptions are people who are actually into strangers fantasizing about them - porn stars of course, but it's not an uncommon fetish. Most guys would probably actually find it flattering, wouldn't bother me any, can't speak for women. I don't just because if I actually happened to hook up with them, it could be... awkward - my imagination is very vivid. This, even though you cant' really fantasize about someone you don't know to any great extent, because... you don't know them. The sound of a voice, etc., doesn't sound too creepy, kinda hot actually.

aromanholiday -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 7:51:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins Well, Ok, that really isn't trouble. [;)] the beast within? in truth, do that with me and what you have written is more than likely to happen lol needles LOL, Noted.

DomImus -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 7:51:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Do you believe you need to get consent from someone before you take sexual gratification on their behalf, even if they are totally unaware of it? No.

LaTigresse -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 8:33:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: Arpig, I would not mind you thinking about me if you used your real photo; your new one scares the crap out of me!! It scares me too! It makes me think of Deliverance

xssve -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 8:45:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy but in the same breath you have to possess the ability to sell your image to the putzes. Lots of people would find whatever paltry sum paid would not be a sufficient amount. To each their own. If you are an exhibitionist might as well get paid for what you are handing out for free. i guess cunt dollars spend just as well as one's actually earned.....or do they? What country do you live in? Here in America, it's all Green. Not that's always a good thing, but selling your image? Nothing I'd lose sleep over.

hlen5 -> RE: Is it unethical to sexually objectify someone without them knowing it? (5/17/2011 8:48:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 ....................then I would welcome it. You know, the thought of a number of hot guys here and there thinking filthy thoughts about me would not bother me in the least. [;)] Then that's a good thing!![;)][:)]

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